Assassin's Creed Possible Main Character Leak

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:14 am

We won't be delving into a milennium of history with them either, as we did in previous AC's. It just seems like a poor choice to me when they had all of history to choose from.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:42 pm


I know. Where did you get that information from my post? All I was saying is that most of the buildings of that age ARE made of wood and the ones that are not, are typically industrial age buildings which to me are fairly bland in architecture. We will also have almost no extremely interesting monuments to look at which was a lot of the fun for me. Those cities may have had 100+ years to grow but they did not have enough of a drive to construct massive monuments or really get a true sense of history to them. 100 years is not a whole lot for a colonial city to grow and start making monuments.

For the most part, the most exciting buildings we will see, will be variations of this. http://alluringamericas.com/images/fi1526.jpg , and for the most part will look like this http://www.engr.psu.edu/mtah/images/NewburghNY1880col.jpg . If it is historically accurate. There will be SOME churches and Townhalls but those will not be the rule they will be the exception. There was no white house yet. No Washington monument. These were at this time just colonial cities with their main functions being to generate revenue. Monuments and great buildings would not be on the priority list. Not even close.
This is some Boston area: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/1776_StateHouse_Boston_5008809394.gif

I would expect some of those, Philly would definitely be the biggest city. And independence hall would be there, and probably some large bell tower just to have the liberty bell.

Also the second picture doesn't represent the central areas larger cities very well. I'd say Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, and New York will be pretty large.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:47 am

I keep throwing money Tourqoise beads at my screen but nothing happens.......
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:08 pm

Should have set it in Russia. Or Central America. Or anywhere but colonial America. I'm more patriotic than the average internet goer, but this just seems like a poor choice to me. Then again, I've never played any of the other games because the ridiculous hype surrounding them annoys me.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:57 pm

Also does anyone think they should've changed the outfit to brownish colors? Trying to do guerilla warfare in white robes doesn't seem practical. Unless you're just hanging out with George the whole time.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:31 am

This is some Boston area: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/1776_StateHouse_Boston_5008809394.gif

I would expect some of those, Philly would definitely be the biggest city. And independence hall would be there, and probably some large bell tower just to have the liberty bell.

Also the second picture doesn't represent the central areas larger cities very well. I'd say Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, and New York will be pretty large.
I agree that much of the game will look like that even though that is the Boston Statehouse area...hardly representative of the whole city. Even if it all did look like that I don't really like it. There are like zero massive stone landmarks in them game and the sense of ancient history will be absent which is a big part of why I liked the games to begin with. Then there is the era it is set in. Using a sword in that era is just ridiculous for most situations. Especially since most guards will have guns. If they give the guards all swords I am gonna just turn my power of disbelief to 9000 and play on and hope it is enough to beat frieza the game.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:40 am

I agree that much of the game will look like that even though that is the Boston Statehouse area...hardly representative of the whole city. Even if it all did look like that I don't really like it. There are like zero massive stone landmarks in them game and the sense of ancient history will be absent which is a big part of why I liked the games to begin with. Then there is the era it is set in. Using a sword in that era is just ridiculous for most situations. Especially since most guards will have guns. If they give the guards all swords I am gonna just turn my power of disbelief to 9000 and play on and hope it is enough to beat frieza the game.
Well depending on how they present the native American part, there could actually be a longer period of history (not necesarilly more). Also did he have a sword? I also see it being much more sneaky than the last games, picking off guards one by one with the bow and jumping in front of the last guy and chucking the tomahawk into his face. Also no one will wear armor, so it should be easy to kill people, but you will die easily too.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:07 pm

First AC game I'll be buying since 1. I really didn't like the medieval/Renaissance theme.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:39 am

Well depending on how they present the native American part, there could actually be a longer period of history (not necesarilly more). Also did he have a sword? I also see it being much more sneaky than the last games, picking off guards one by one with the bow and jumping in front of the last guy and chucking the tomahawk into his face. Also no one will wear armor, so it should be easy to kill people, but you will die easily too.
I like using the sword and dislike the guns...might have something to do with it. If it does not have swords one of its core gameplay mechanics would be gone. Idk, in my mind the setting is not all that inspired and they are setting themselves up for failure imo. Pleasing the fanbase for this game is going to be a chore for them. If they accurately reflect America as it was back then, many white people will be offended because as most nations do the United States does not teach much about its low points, instead it sweeps them under the rug and says hey look at all the good things...on the other hand if they are not historically accurate they will discredit themselves. Not that most Americans would even notice if they did make it historically inaccurate.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:51 am

I like using the sword and dislike the guns...might have something to do with it. If it does not have swords one of its core gameplay mechanics would be gone. Idk, in my mind the setting is not all that inspired and they are setting themselves up for failure imo. Pleasing the fanbase for this game is going to be a chore for them. If they accurately reflect America as it was back then, many white people will be offended because as most nations do the United States does not teach much about its low points, instead it sweeps them under the rug and says hey look at all the good things...on the other hand if they are not historically accurate they will discredit themselves. Not that most Americans would even notice if they did make it historically inaccurate.
You mean owning slaves and losing a lot of the battles, and cruelty to natives as low points.

Also the revolution is probably my 3rd favorite thing in history so I am rather excited, and I find climbing the Mega tall buildings to be tiresome and boring. Though landmarks are cool.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:57 am

How the hell could Desmond's ancestor be a Native American? It would be impossible prior to Europeans arriving.

Norseman?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:50 am

You mean owning slaves and losing a lot of the battles, and cruelty to natives as low points.

Also the revolution is probably my 3rd favorite thing in history so I am rather excited, and I find climbing the Mega tall buildings to be tiresome and boring. Though landmarks are cool.
Amongst other things. Part of the problem with history is recognition. Natives Americans fighting with the Revolutionists, Slave soldiers also fighting for the freedom of the colonials, these things get regularly swept under the rugs. If you look at the way American history is commonly portrayed you would think white people did everything. Won't go into that anymore though. I will just say they have their work cut out for them if they plan to stay true to the History of the time.

I just do not think the American Revolution lends itself well to the Assassin's Creed Series as a time period. I enjoy the history of the period. Just not together with the setting. I also do not think there were really very many "assassination' like deaths during the revolutionary war that will lend itself well to this series, anything they do is going to seem like a big historical stretch and you know they are going to try and have us assassinate someone important. Just part of their http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi at this point. Especially the attire of the Assassin in the images we have seen so far. It does not fit in at all with the clothing of that time. Isn't the point of being an assassin to be hidden and/or blend in? Just seems out of place. Seems like someone agrees with me on that much at least. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/01/the-problem-with-the-assassins-creed-3-american-revolutionary-war-box-art/
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 am

Amongst other things. Part of the problem with history is recognition. Natives Americans fighting with the Revolutionists, Slave soldiers also fighting for the freedom of the colonials, these things get regularly swept under the rugs. If you look at the way American history is commonly portrayed you would think white people did everything. Won't go into that anymore though. I will just say they have their work cut out for them if they plan to stay true to the History of the time.

I just do not think the American Revolution lends itself well to the Assassin's Creed Series as a time period. I enjoy the history of the period. Just not together with the setting. I also do not think there were really very many "assassination' like deaths during the revolutionary war that will lend itself well to this series, anything they do is going to seem like a big historical stretch and you know they are going to try and have us assassinate someone important. Just part of their http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi at this point. Especially the attire of the Assassin in the images we have seen so far. It does not fit in at all with the clothing of that time. Isn't the point of being an assassin to be hidden and/or blend in? Just seems out of place. Seems like someone agrees with me on that much at least. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/01/the-problem-with-the-assassins-creed-3-american-revolutionary-war-box-art/
The series has never stayed true to history. It takes a basis in fact and twists it to fit the story. Also, the Assassin attire never really looked discreet. Most Italians in the 15th century didn't wear thick, bright white hooded robes and carry a sword, dagger, crossbow, throwing knives and other weapons on them.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:17 am

The series has never stayed true to history. It takes a basis in fact and twists it to fit the story. Also, the Assassin attire never really looked discreet. Most Italians in the 15th century didn't wear thick, bright white hooded robes and carry a sword, dagger, crossbow, throwing knives and other weapons on them.

Most didn't wear those things, some (the Assassins) did.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:36 am

Amongst other things. Part of the problem with history is recognition. Natives Americans fighting with the Revolutionists, Slave soldiers also fighting for the freedom of the colonials, these things get regularly swept under the rugs. If you look at the way American history is commonly portrayed you would think white people did everything. Won't go into that anymore though. I will just say they have their work cut out for them if they plan to stay true to the History of the time.

I just do not think the American Revolution lends itself well to the Assassin's Creed Series as a time period. I enjoy the history of the period. Just not together with the setting. I also do not think there were really very many "assassination' like deaths during the revolutionary war that will lend itself well to this series, anything they do is going to seem like a big historical stretch and you know they are going to try and have us assassinate someone important. Just part of their http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi at this point. Especially the attire of the Assassin in the images we have seen so far. It does not fit in at all with the clothing of that time. Isn't the point of being an assassin to be hidden and/or blend in? Just seems out of place. Seems like someone agrees with me on that much at least. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/01/the-problem-with-the-assassins-creed-3-american-revolutionary-war-box-art/

You basically summarised my problem with an AC set in revolutionary America. Ubisoft will screw it up, and I'll be here to say, "I told you so."
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:48 pm

Most didn't wear those things, some (the Assassins) did.
That's what I said...
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:26 am

The series has never stayed true to history. It takes a basis in fact and twists it to fit the story. Also, the Assassin attire never really looked discreet. Most Italians in the 15th century didn't wear thick, bright white hooded robes and carry a sword, dagger, crossbow, throwing knives and other weapons on them.
Most didn't wear those things, some (the Assassins) did.
That's what I said...
The thing is that the attire that they wore in the series up to this point is understandable in some respects. It was the most fitting with Altair. From there it has been getting increasingly stylistic and blends in less and less. However the renaissance in Europe was a time of extravagant everything. Especially in the social circles the games put you in with Ezio. The hood kind of kills it imo but it was something that at a quick glance would blend in. At a closer look it was painfully obvious that Ezio or Altair were out of place. So in general that was a bad gimmick to me. But it at least had some basic credibility. Not much but some.

In colonial America the things that were worn do not match up well with what this new incarnation of Desmond's ancestor is wearing. There is no flamboyance for him to blend into in the Americas, or at least very little at that time. Most of the clothing worn in those times by most people were types of browns, dark blues, greens, blacks, greys or whites. Subdued colors. So he kind of has that much going for the outfit. However, few people wore hoods, it was suspicious, and no one wore a hood like the one in that concept art. That is the most our of place thing of the whole attire. Then add the various out of place decals and I really cannot see him walking down any street without about 90% of the people who see him doing a double take and instantly burning the image into their memory. Which is great for the police force or militia who will ask those people if they have you seen any odd looking people about, and guess who is the first person they will think of without a single doubt as to who the guard is asking about? Exactly.

Ezio was just another of many flamboyant renaissance men with a penchant for outlandish clothing styles. He also wore a sword which was common at the time. He might stand out a little but when there are hundreds of people like him he does not stand out as much. The games style simply does not lend itself well to this setting imo. You can look at all the variations of clothing worn by people in the Colonial Americas during that time and none of the common clothing will match up. Maybe a few of the exceedingly ridiculous fashion styles that reared their ugly heads at the time might show up but I doubt it. Even so, those always turned heads.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:11 pm

In colonial America the things that were worn do not match up well with what this new incarnation of Desmond's ancestor is wearing. There is no flamboyance for him to blend into in the Americas, or at least very little at that time. Most of the clothing worn in those times by most people were types of browns, dark blues, greens, blacks, greys or whites. Subdued colors. So he kind of has that much going for the outfit. However, few people wore hoods, it was suspicious, and no one wore a hood like the one in that concept art. That is the most our of place thing of the whole attire. Then add the various out of place decals and I really cannot see him walking down any street without about 90% of the people who see him doing a double take and instantly burning the image into their memory. Which is great for the police force or militia who will ask those people if they have you seen any odd looking people about, and guess who is the first person they will think of without a single doubt as to who the guard is asking about? Exactly.

I think if he lost the hood and died the coat (it's not really robes anymore, more like a trench coat) dark blue (i'm assuming we can still dye our outfit) he'd fit in okay. He'd look like a mountaineer.

But, I like it how it is. Even if it's not very realistic, it looks awesome.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:51 am

To be honest, I liked Altair more than Ezio. Ezio was far too overhyped and just meh to me. I love Native American culture, so this is a plus for me. Maybe I can finally get into the AS series.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:29 am

I'm hope they make a game during the Roman Republic/Empire. So many possibilities (Tiberius/Gaius Gracchus, Julius Caesar, Caligula, Domitian).
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:53 am

It's official check the related stories, Ubisoft released the box art.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:35 pm

Not looking forward to any more Assassins Creed games.

The first two were grand; had me in a nice little trans, good story line and everything.

The last two (Brotherhood and its very lesser cousin, Revelations) were basically reskins of eachother, and very annoying and it got to the point where i just wanted to get over with it.

The games always end horribly except for the first and second ones, where they started getting sloppy soon after.

The series really should have ended with AC:R, but you know, they just keep shooting out a new game.
AC2 and Brotherhood were my favorites. I might get them again. I liked the Renaissance era setting and the story, and pretty much everything else. Revelations was good but it was short, and I expected it to be longer and fuller than the previous ones.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:11 am

Should have set it in Russia. Or Central America. Or anywhere but colonial America. I'm more patriotic than the average internet goer, but this just seems like a poor choice to me. Then again, I've never played any of the other games because the ridiculous hype surrounding them annoys me.

Not playing a game simply because it's popular seems a little bit ridiculous. Not buying the game because it's popular is the same as buying it because it's popular, you're letting other people's opinions make your decision for you. Food for thought.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:52 am

Okay, I'll finally post in this topic after watching it evolve from rumor to confirmation.

I'm actually excited about the game. I graduate at the end of this year with a Bachelors degree in History and the reason I fell in love with AC in the first place was the historical placement of game. I studied American history more than any other history so seeing the series take place in an era that I know a lot about has really peaked my interest. The game is fiction, but the places they use have always been real. Being able to play in an open world American Revolution era is beyond awesome to me. I have had AC:B on hold for the last 4 months or so, I think I'll finish it up and buy AC:R just in time for summer. Then, while writing my senior thesis, I can play Borderlands 2 and AC:III.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:38 am

I think if he lost the hood and died the coat (it's not really robes anymore, more like a trench coat) dark blue (i'm assuming we can still dye our outfit) he'd fit in okay. He'd look like a mountaineer.

But, I like it how it is. Even if it's not very realistic, it looks awesome.
Yes it looks cool, though out of place. That is all I am saying. When a game like this stretches my suspension of disbelief i just don't like it. Assassins Creed just seems like it is trying to be historical sometimes and when they are wrong it gets annoying. Don't mind me just a pet peeve and my opinion.

I would love to see this series branch out and try their game engine in a medium outside of reality. In other words a fantasy inspired assassins creed game. Mostly just the gameplay mechanics though. So long as they beef up the difficulty. No more taking on 40 guards with counters without getting touched. They need a place with a lot of history to it. I would love to see them expound on some of the History of TES series with a series of spinoff action adventure games. Though there would need to be a heavy hand from the lore masters for TES series. TES Adventures: Morag Tong....LMFAO Dons flameshield. I am jk though I really would like to see the Assassins Creed series of gameplay brought into a fantasy realm or expanded into something that delves into the more ancient part of history.

Okay, I'll finally post in this topic after watching it evolve from rumor to confirmation.

I'm actually excited about the game. I graduate at the end of this year with a Bachelors degree in History and the reason I fell in love with AC in the first place was the historical placement of game. I studied American history more than any other history so seeing the series take place in an era that I know a lot about has really peaked my interest. The game is fiction, but the places they use have always been real. Being able to play in an open world American Revolution era is beyond awesome to me. I have had AC:B on hold for the last 4 months or so, I think I'll finish it up and buy AC:R just in time for summer. Then, while writing my senior thesis, I can play Borderlands 2 and AC:III.
Funny I am a Junior with a similar potential route except it is more in Ancient Civilizations, though I am having doubts now and may change even though it is last minute. What are you planning to do after writing your Thesis?
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