Bioware's Fail at Ponies : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:46 am

You're right about Pratchett. I'd forgotten about him. I've never read any Lovecraft. I admit that I'm not an avid fantasy reader, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. :lol:

I've got a few discworld books, but I could never get in to them for some reason. I got a beautifully illustrated hardback Pratchett book for Christmas one year. It was nice to look at, but I couldn't get in to the characters...

You kind of have to start at the beginning of their book series to get into them, they have a lot of progression.

H.P isn't original, he based lots of lore off of scienctific theories. Or so it seems to me. Nothing is original in this world, nothing. It's all a matter of how close to being a copy something is. It's a weird thing about the universe, or at least the human way of vieing the universe.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife I can't find the right page on TV tropes, but it expains the concept that nothing is original well. This is the closest I could get.

That's sort of a depressing view.
I suppose at least 50% originality is enough to enjoy without constantly thinking of the original concept.

The problem with originality, or if you would, pioneering something, is that sooner or later someone will catch up with you. Rip off your works, maybe even pull them off a little better and so on. So even if you did something "first", and that fact is acknowledged, it doesn't make you original when you're caught up with.

There is a difference between being original and being unique.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:23 pm

You kind of have to start at the beginning of their book series to get into them, they have a lot of progression.

That's sort of a depressing view.
I suppose at least 50% originality is enough to enjoy without constantly thinking of the original concept.

There is a difference between being original and being unique.

NOTHING is original. It's not depressing so much as it is fact. Like learning the sky is blue and we can't breathe in space. It would be awesome if those things were differen't. but hey. Reality shines through ever on. If you think that trope is depressing then look at the other page I linked talking about what I'm trying to get accross. It's all about how much you can mix up what you have.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:21 pm

H.P. Lovecraft and Terry Pratchett's stuff and a lot of Steampunk is pretty original. (Although that doesn't always mean good.)

Sir Terry Pratchett's books are some of the most unique I have ever seen. Without a doubt he's my favourite author.

And Gaider wrote both books and then went over to write much of Dragon Age 2, so we're all well aware of how terrible a writer he is. Bioware's really gone downhill in the creative department since Origins. Frankly the only decent thing they've come up with since then are some of the stuff in TOR.

Dragon Age 2 may not be as good of a game as Origins, but it still had some great writing in its dialogue.

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:14 am

NOTHING is original. It's not depressing so much as it is fact. Like learning the sky is blue and we can't breathe in space. It would be awesome if those things were differen't. but hey. Reality shines through ever on. If you think that trope is depressing then look at the other page I linked talking about what I'm trying to get accross. It's all about how much you can mix up what you have.

It depends on what your definition of original is. I think that while nothing is 100% original, if I can read it without constantly drawing parallels or comparisons with it's source material (*cough* Eragon *cough*) then it is "original". I'm probably just being a nitpick though :hehe:

Sir Terry Pratchett's books are some of the most unique I have ever seen. Without a doubt he's my favourite author.

One of the truly great authors. Nation was a surprisingly good book, I wasn't expecting such a poignant book when I picked it up.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:21 pm

It depends on what your definition of original is. I think that while nothing is 100% original, if I can read it without constantly drawing parallels or comparisons with it's source material (*cough* Eragon *cough*) then it is "original". I'm probably just being a nitpick though :hehe:

One of the truly great authors. Nation was a surprisingly good book, I wasn't expecting such a poignant book when I picked it up.

I think a better metric is how "fresh" it is. If you think about it.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:58 pm

Same for people who harp on about ASOIAF. Its cliche and its characters nd world are bland.

its been said already but really? i thought the characters were well done, they all have motivations that drive them forward, and its world does a decent job of creating its lore and legends. Also you dislike it for its six scenes? granted incist is gross but its not enough to make me quit reading

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:41 pm

Come on! ASIAF is a great book series. I can't see how any of it is bland. And all fantasy is cliche. I challenge anyone to show me a truly original piece of fantasy. It's all based off history and LOTR.

I thought the Chronicles of Amber were quite original. They certainly bear no resemblance to Tolkien. But, yes, as fantasy takes inspiration from mythology, all fantasy is pretty much drawing from the same well.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:27 pm

I want to see what you like. Is that so hard? I'm not even making fun of you or anything. I sincerly and genuinely want to see what things you like. It's a freaking forum mystery and its beginning to bother me. And a few others based on their posts.

Well from 5 seconds of inspecting his name, location, and avatar. I'm guessing he like cats, Halo, and Fallout New Vegas.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:34 am

Well from 5 seconds of inspecting his name, location, and avatar. I'm guessing he like cats, Halo, and Fallout New Vegas.

I don't believe you. It could be some sort of conspiracy to trick us all into thinking he likes stuff. :ninja:

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 am

I don't believe you. It could be some sort of conspiracy to trick us all into thinking he likes stuff. :ninja:

There was also one time we talked about halo for a bit, and in the describe your avatar thread he said he liked some webcomic ( the cat) and halo, and both were combined.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:21 pm

I don't believe you. It could be some sort of conspiracy to trick us all into thinking he likes stuff. :ninja:

I remembered that he liked Katawa Shoujo.

in the describe your avatar thread he said he liked some webcomic ( the cat) and halo, and both were combined.

VG Cats

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:55 pm

I remembered that he liked Katawa Shoujo.

VG Cats

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» Mon May 14, 2012 12:27 pm

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» Mon May 14, 2012 8:43 pm

I'm sure we can all agree that there is no worse video game book than Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:45 am

Bioware dont even care about lore when making a sequal. I dont see why your suprised.
Also only now you see BW dosent care ? Allthough there are plenty of drones to defend them.

*Raises sword*

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:23 am

I want to see what you like. Is that so hard? I'm not even making fun of you or anything. I sincerly and genuinely want to see what things you like. It's a freaking forum mystery and its beginning to bother me. And a few others based on their posts.

What's bothering me more is you trying to pick a fight with ~~Ratwar~~ Ratslayer whenever he makes a post about anything. I don't even care which one of you is right, could you please stop acting like a 14-year-old and take your personal vendettas to PMs please? You're polluting my forum.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Still, the most inconsistent lore can be found in history books. Funny that.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:11 pm

Has Stormrider posted his corrections of that woman's book? The woman who works with Bioware, I forgot her name.

Lulz will be had.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:57 pm

Has Stormrider posted his corrections of that woman's book? The woman who works with Bioware, I forgot her name.

Lulz will be had.

Hamburger Hepler, the Burger Queen.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:21 pm

What's bothering me more is you trying to pick a fight with Ratwar whenever he makes a post about anything. I don't even care which one of you is right, could you please stop acting like a 14-year-old and take your personal vendettas to PMs please? You're polluting my forum.

Everyone takes shots at Ratwar, he brings it on himself.

You're thinking of Ratslayer though and you're right. It's like Gam-gams is stalking him.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:57 am

Everyone takes shots at Ratwar, he brings it on himself.

You're thinking of Ratslayer though and you're right. It's like Gam-gams is stalking him.

Woops you're right, editing now. At least I got the first three letters right.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:06 pm

It's like Gam-gams is stalking him.

I dunno. Gamgee was jumping all over Third Eye yesterday in that Breakup Letter thread. I wonder if he's alright.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:54 am

Everyone takes shots at Ratwar, he brings it on himself.

You're thinking of Ratslayer though and you're right. It's like Gam-gams is stalking him.

If only it were that interesting and complex. It's like an annoying sound you can't pin down in your room and then one day you find it and you can't sleep with that noise occuring again.

Edit
If I remember correctly, everyone was jumping on everyone in that thread. Hence it was locked. Well not everyone, but enough that the mods had to lock it down. Anyways this is getting pretty spammy I think we should let this actually be about biowares fail in their latest book.

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:05 pm

Has Stormrider posted his corrections of that woman's book? The woman who works with Bioware, I forgot her name.

Lulz will be had.

You mean http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/Stormrider81/lolinternet/Hepler.jpg? ^_^