Bioware's Fail at Ponies

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:40 am

It seems that the new Mass Effect book has received a bit of criticism for how AWFUL it is in their lore:http://kotaku.com/5880729/mass-effect-fans-fact+check-mass-effect-novel-find-a-ton-of-errors

The book is so bad that videos like this of book burnings have been made:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXVmleTSB5k

You'd think a company would check their lore when making books but then again how much has Biofail shown they care about their fans :shakehead:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:36 pm

You'd think a company would check their lore when making books but then again how much has Biofail shown they care about their fans :shakehead:
Bioware dont even care about lore when making a sequal. I dont see why your suprised.
Also only now you see BW dosent care ? Allthough there are plenty of drones to defend them.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:57 am

This book had so many lore inconsistencies I don't know how it got past the editior. Here is the google doc that shows all the problems with this book. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBpMF3ONlI308D9IGG8KICBHfWKU0sXh0ntukv-_cmo/preview?pli=1&sle=true
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:11 pm

Bioware dont even care about lore when making a sequal. I dont see why your suprised.
Also only now you see BW dosent care ? Allthough there are plenty of drones to defend them.

It was sarcasm. Haven't you seen how much I hate Bioware. If I could, I'd be glad they shut down since they are a lost cause now.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:27 pm

Am I a drone because I thought the two Dragon Age novels were some of the best fantasy stories I have ever read?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:03 pm

Don't read the books then. Why waste your time on something you hate, as you said?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:04 am

People keep saying how great Bioware's writers are, but I can't see it. IMO, they're slightly above Stephanie Meyer status -- a writer whom they've publically stated they aspire to be like. (What kind of a bar is that to aim for?)
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:57 am

Haven't you seen how much I hate Bioware.
I dont remember you, so no.

Am I a drone because I thought the two Dragon Age novels were some of the best fantasy stories I have ever read?
I havent read them, but its dragon age, so I assume it just means you need to read more. Same for people who harp on about ASOIAF. Its cliche and its characters nd world are bland.

Your only a drone when you defend things like poor writing.

Also the book burning guy is pretty sad. I didnt like splinter cell convicition. I sold it. Burning it would be stupid and childish.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:53 pm

I havent read them, but its dragon age, so I assume it just means you need to read more. Same for people who harp on about ASOIAF. Its cliche and its characters nd world are bland.

Your only a drone when you defend things like poor writing.
Your actually a drone if you go with the popular move. You didn't like the world or writing of Dragon Age or ASOIAF, well I love them both. You see we both have differing opinions on one subject...cool.

Note: Please don't use that horribly arrogant argument of "you need to read more". I'm not trying to insult you, but there are few phrases that seem more self-serving then that.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:34 am

Your actually a drone if you go with the popular move.

You're a drone if you go with the popular move because it is popular. If you think through your decisions, that's fine. You aren't automatically a sheep or a hipster if you think through your decisions.

As for people bashing the book - I haven't read the book but I read about all the plot holes, and while it is pretty abominable, it isn't all Bioware's fault. Most of the blame lies on this one writer - previous writers for the Mass Effect franchise have written solid lore expanding pieces.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:25 pm

I dont remember you, so no.


I havent read them, but its dragon age, so I assume it just means you need to read more. Same for people who harp on about ASOIAF. Its cliche and its characters nd world are bland.

Your only a drone when you defend things like poor writing.

Also the book burning guy is pretty sad. I didnt like splinter cell convicition. I sold it. Burning it would be stupid and childish.
Ah rat, you never cease to complain. You know what? Make a topic about what you LIKE, and maybe we can discuss it with you. Seriously, just one positive thing. Please, do share. I'm being serious this time, I want to see what you like. I swear no matter how much I don't like it, I won't bother you with what you like. I'm just super curious.

In general about the book, it was a different author who wrote it. I think this is one of the many reasons why it's so bad on a huge level, that and Bioware or the editor or someone didn't check it for lore consistency. I hope the petition to get the book removed from canon goes through. This is the one time where we do agree, this book is aweful! The other novels were okay, but not award winning literature here. Just some good old fun reading, light and simple. Enjoyable. But this... this is euugghhh. Oh my god, what the hell happened? I'm blotting this out of my mind. A few inconsistencies/minor retcons between game sis one thing. But destroying the backstory of most of the franchise? Yea....
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:49 am

Bioware dont doesn't even care about lore when making a sequal sequel. I dont don't see why your you're suprised surprised.
Also only now you see BW dosent doesn't care ? Allthough Although there are plenty of drones to defend them.

Well, it's obvious the subject line is nothing more than to foster some notion that it is a "fail", and it is hyperbole. It is a book of lore, not facts, as most depictions of game universes into paperbacks, tend to expand on many aspects not included in their respective games. So now it is a fail. People have a right to say they didn't like it, or that it didn't fit their perception of the lore; then again, there are also those who will really enjoy it. Most who will enjoy it, are those who love games and are also well read in various literature, especially game story literature. A game novel does not necessarily have to fit the game's story to a "T", it really only needs to be pertinent to it and well written. Also, referring to those who defend it (in the context in which you are using the term) really doesn't fit. They are not drones, only gamers who may like the games and books. Just because you have your preferences, doesn't make them wrong. Would you be a drone for liking books and games others do not like?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:54 am

Honestly I founds the flaws not that bad. Lorebreaking yes but not terribly lorebreaking. Most people who play the game don't care about building placement or the phisiology of fictional aliens.

Nothing to drag a book down with, but how was the story? If they had said a quarian took it mask off to reveal its face or Cerberus joined the citadel I would gaffaw.

Still big fans read the entire codex like a bible. But hey.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:08 pm

I dont remember you, so no.


Your only a drone when you defend things like poor writing.



LOL, It's "You're"! I guess you're a self-proclaimed drone.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:10 pm

Honestly I founds the flaws not that bad. Lorebreaking yes but not terribly lorebreaking. Most people who play the game don't care about building placement or the phisiology of fictional aliens.

Nothing to drag a book down with, but how was the story? If they had said a quarian took it mask off to reveal its face or Cerberus joined the citadel I would gaffaw.

Still big fans read the entire codex like a bible. But hey.
SInce you mentioned a quarian without a mask there is a quarian in the book who doesn't have its environmentally suit on instead it had a "motley collection of clothing, held together by a variety of straps or metal fasteners."
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:19 pm

Ah rat, you never cease to complain. You know what? Make a topic about what you LIKE, and maybe we can discuss it with you. Seriously, just one positive thing. Please, do share. I'm being serious this time, I want to see what you like. I swear no matter how much I don't like it, I won't bother you with what you like. I'm just super curious.

Ratslayer is the Daily Mail, its always going to be complaining.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:37 pm

SInce you mentioned a quarian without a mask there is a quarian in the book who doesn't have the have it's environmentally seat on instead it had a "motley collection of clothing, held together by a variety of straps or metal fasteners."

To many fastenings, and in combat......

:facepalm:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:18 am

William C. Dietz was the guy who wrote The Flood for the Halo series of books, which was easily the most poorly written and least fact checked of that series.

This does not surprise me in the least.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:12 pm

To many fastenings, and in combat......

:facepalm:
And thats the just the icing on the cake with this book. Such as a volus having a mask that doesn't competely cover its face, batarians having a embassy on Citadel, and many timeline issues as well.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:22 am

I havent read them, but its dragon age, so I assume it just means you need to read more. Same for people who harp on about ASOIAF. Its cliche and its characters nd world are bland.
I read (and have read) A LOT and I like the ASoIaF series. It's obvious that you haven't read the books you're bashing, though, because whether you like the series or not there's nothing cliche about it. The story purposely leads you down a path that makes you think you know how things are going to go, and then it does something else. By definition that isn't "cliche." I don't care if someone is going to complain or disagree with my opinions, but please know what you're talking about first. The fact that the series gained popularity recently because of the television series doesn't automatically make the series bad.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:55 pm

And thats the just the icing on the cake with this book. Such as a volus having a mask that doesn't competely cover its face, batarians having a embassy on Citadel, and many timeline issues as well.

The Batarian Embassy is the biggest flaw I see. Their government wants nothing to do with the Citadel.

To the person saying ASOIAF is bland and cliche has obviously not read far into the books.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:22 am

Ratslayer is the Daily Mail, its always going to be complaining.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanDumb

It's like reading a psychology profile on a few people here. Hahahaha.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:19 pm


It's also funny that you replied regarding a book (you know, where one actually reads text), and you cannot spell or form a question properly (as I highlighted). To be clear, I am not a grammar or spelling lame, but your errors are so egregious considering how misplaced your criticism is over a novel.
I guess I cant call characters cliche, plots predictable unless I have A's in my spelling. I didnt realise spelling gave shallow characters depth.

LOL, It's "You're"! I guess you're a self-proclaimed drone.
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Ah rat, you never cease to complain. You know what? Make a topic about what you LIKE, and maybe we can discuss it with you. Seriously, just one positive thing. Please, do share. I'm being serious this time, I want to see what you like. I swear no matter how much I don't like it, I won't bother you with what you like. I'm just super curious.
For a person who seems to constantly reply to me, you sure dont know a damn thing about me.
I have mentioned things I like, if you havent seen those posts, its not my problem.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:04 pm

I read (and have read) A LOT and I like the ASoIaF series. It's obvious that you haven't read the books you're bashing, though, because whether you like the series or not there's nothing cliche about it. The story purposely leads you down a path that makes you think you know how things are going to go, and then it does something else. By definition that isn't "cliche." I don't care if someone is going to complain or disagree with my opinions, but please know what you're talking about first. The fact that the series gained popularity recently because of the television series doesn't automatically make the series bad.
By do something else you mean, the author throws a dart and kills of the character it hits ?
I dont care how the story ends, it would mean wading through total [censored], like the six scene between the queen and her brother. Which you only read after hearing about a woman talk about having a good ache inside after having six with her husband.

I would rather read my immortal in one sitting, atleast its intentionally bad.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:20 pm

I guess I cant call characters cliche, plots predictable unless I have A's in my spelling. I didnt realise spelling gave shallow characters depth.


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For a person who seems to constantly reply to me, you sure dont know a damn thing about me.
I have mentioned things I like, if you havent seen those posts, its not my problem.
Please make a topic? Pleaaasssee. I want to know for sure, the definitive Ratslayer favourites list. From music to games and movies. I've never seen these illusive posts about what you like. Link me to some of them? I need to see it for myself to beleive it. Like the end of the world in 2012, the rapture, or a flying pig with dual mini guns shooting people. It has to be seen.
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