The cyber-police were already informed of this, man.

What exactly makes it hard to see how I can say that, or where is the 180 turn? They are mostly activists of one kind or another, and activists by definition are... active . Most people are not as they don't want to challenge the status quo or are waiting for someone to take lead or think someone else will fix the problems (hence the bystander effect).

Most of their actions are organized to a fair degree and most of the actions under anonymous are done by a large group of body. Spend a few minutes on their IRC channel and you'll realize how wrong you are in saying this. Yes, they are a loose coalition, but they are united in thought very often.

Their actions (at least those that the IRC channel will own up to) all have a lot in common. Even those I disagree with (such as AntiSec) fit in with their overall train of thought (which is undoing and drawing attention to the things they see the government doing wrong, as demonstrated in their Walk on X support and their attacks on BART and other organizations). There are of course those that don't fit in, but the IRC channel will deny those being official operations (like Operation Facebook).

I just started watching the report on CNN.com, wow I did laugh at all the times they showed wireshark and mentioned hackers at the same time.

edit- They barely talked about the attacks on Master Card/Visa/Paypal. I was sort of wanting to hear more about that. I had a good friend that was picked up by the FBI for participating in those.

Better was

sudo killall wine
wine: no process found

'Cause hackers totally are trying to end Wine on their systems while hacking and wine isn't even running

Someone else must have hacked them and ended Wine already!

I mean some of the stuff in there was almost as bad as TV show "hacking."

Example, Person of Interest, I like the show, its very entertaining, but some of the stuff in there makes me laugh.

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq102/Starforce9/IPAddressFail.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq102/Starforce9/PersonofInterestIPFail3ATM.jpg

Where? I can only find the preview video...

It works for terrorist organizations

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/01/15/lyon-anonymous-pt1.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2012/01/15/lyon-anonymous-pt2.cnn#/video/us/2012/01/15/lyon-anonymous-pt2.cnn

Unfortunately it is a grey area and there is a right/wrong to it where theft is indeed theft. As for charities accepting these donations if one suddenly got 5 to 7 million dollars....yes that is problematic. However, if you sprinkle donations of 50 here, 100 there, and 25 in this vicinity people can avoid detection with those charities gaining much needed funding.

I look at anonymous the same way I would look at a gun and that's a dangerous tool. In the right hands it can be a very powerful object to defend, hunt, and serve as a deterrent while on the other hand it can be used to kill, suppress, and terrify people. Sad thing is the good Anonymous does will be outshined by the bad like their "wiki-leaks" affiliation.

Could only get to a minute in.

Dramatic music with teenagers wearing guy fawkes masks in relation to an internet 'organisation' - I'm out.

The ATM one looks a lot like the telnet screen for my switch at work, and ash is a real unix (used by many embedded systems including BusyBox). Even the options for it seem legitimate to me (except maybe Bios depending on whether it pertails to the actual system BIOS or something different). And, frankly, given how bad security is in some places, an ATM in the DMZ somewhere in the world doesn't terribly surprise me, unfortunately. The only thing odd is the fake, unobtainable IP address it has (and really, that's better than pointing to a real IP address that someone in real life would inevitably try to access, just like when a http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/27/entertainment/main555630.shtmls.

Confused, Are you saying that their wikileaks affiliation a bad thing?

I think he might mean the who molestation thing or whatever that Assange is being charged with.

That and i'm not too fond of the wiki-leaks site itself since some of their reports jeopardized lives. That's why i'm on the fence with Anonymous since they have so much potential, and yet as said they have scattered ideals of what is considered "right."

As I hear they are divided on a number of issues but such is the problem with a internet centered organization that uses anonymity to its full effect. I am Alpharius indeed.

As it is however I'm on the fence on the organization itself if it can indeed be called that. I don't much care for some of their beliefs or support of wiki-leaks but I would consider that they have capacity for good or bad depending on who happens to be running under the anonymous label.

Not to delve too much on the issue, but Gandhi was a terrible racist, but that doesn't change the other things he did. Judge an organization on the merits of the organization itself, not by the leaders of it (otherwise you're probably using a lot of products right now whose CEOs do things you find despicable and just don't know it. You're using an OS of a man who sent numerous emails asking about how the "the Jihad against the enemy" was going). Not to mention pretty much every news reporting organization has at least one time in their history reported news that has jeopardized people's lives and/or protected criminals who are their sources

That said, nothing wrong with being on the fence of Anonymous. I personally think of them as Chaotic-Neutral

Haha yeah, netstat and wireshark, I'm legion!