As some of you here may know, the first Crysis was literally a crisis for most graphics cards out there when the game was released. If you payed closer attention to its release, you would have also known that because NVIDIA/Intel bought branding for Crysis, they also had the superior code compared to the ATI/AMD products.

Now, hearing about NVIDIA buying out Crytek again for $2 million and hearing about Crysis 2 being "built for the GTX 580", I am left worried that once again, NVIDIA will get a superior code leaving AMD behind to try and catch up with drivers. This leaves many customers in the hotseat, including me. I have been looking at a great budget build, looking at getting a AMD Phenom II X6 1075T and a Radeon 6970 in the future, however I am very worried that like the original game, this will be blasted away by its competition due to Crytek's coding and NVIDIA's marketing powers.

Will buying a Radeon 6970 and a Phenom II X6 1075T handicap me for Crysis 2, or is Crytek going to have more evenly distributed coding this time around?

Will buying a Radeon 6970 and a Phenom II X6 1075T handicap me for Crysis 2, or is Crytek going to have more evenly distributed coding this time around?

I don't think so, they've been already bought by Nvidia. And it's most likely, that there's going to be more gpu/cards stating to be built for Crysis 2 or just advertised for it.

$2 million, isn't something they (Crytek) can't look over.
They must of needed more financing for Crysis 2 to be so great.. ...

Yes, they will code it well for AMD cards, because they can't afford not to.

Of all the cards that will run crysis 2 (hd4 series/gtx2 series and later) AMD has 70-80% market share (Nvidia are in major trouble at the moment with regards to sales in the dedicated gpu arena and have been for just under 3 years).

If crysis 2 doesn't run well on AMD cards, crytek will have a dead duck on their hands. Then, of course, we all know that equal powered AMD cards win in crysis 1 anyway, so it's not like sponsoring makes a difference!

In short, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether you buy an AMD or nvidia card, and those buying nvidia cards because of this marketing ploy have fell right for it. Nvidia have been on the verge of being massively sued for their underhanded actions before and has only served to lose them sales (for example, the batman:AA fiasco has probably been the biggest dent in nvidia sales for a while, quite the opposite of what they wanted when they invested the money), and aren't in a hurry to repeat them. The gtx570 is a good card though, and shouldn't be sniffed at

****, and I wasted my money on a 5850.

No, you didn't. All this is marketing to confuse the less knowledgeable when they buy new cards. Both AMD and nvidia cards will run crysis 2 very well. This is just marketing. Like how battlefield 3 will 'run better on AMD cards'.

S'all crap. Look at reviews for buying your card, not **** marketing.

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Yes, they will code it well for AMD cards, because they can't afford not to.

Of all the cards that will run crysis 2 (hd4 series/gtx2 series and later) AMD has 70-80% market share (Nvidia are in major trouble at the moment with regards to sales in the dedicated gpu arena and have been for just under 3 years).

If crysis 2 doesn't run well on AMD cards, crytek will have a dead duck on their hands. Then, of course, we all know that equal powered AMD cards win in crysis 1 anyway, so it's not like sponsoring makes a difference!

In short, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether you buy an AMD or nvidia card, and those buying nvidia cards because of this marketing ploy have fell right for it. Nvidia have been on the verge of being massively sued for their underhanded actions before and has only served to lose them sales (for example, the batman:AA fiasco has probably been the biggest dent in nvidia sales for a while, quite the opposite of what they wanted when they invested the money), and aren't in a hurry to repeat them. The gtx570 is a good card though, and shouldn't be sniffed at


It took several months for ATI gpu's to catch up to the NVIDIA counterpart with drivers though...

I am worried that Crytek will pull a Crisis again for C2.


I will pick the 6970 over the 580 because of price/performance, and same with AMD over Intel. Hopefully Crytek will take advantage of 6 core technology and not leave half the AMD cards forced to use TurboSpeed or whatever its called.

! ati/amd never did me any good, Id choose a Nvidia Gtx, anytime !

! ati/amd never did me any good, Id choose a Nvidia Gtx, anytime !

I used to be an Intel/NVIDIA fanboy but I have changed over now because the Radeons offer extremely similar performance for $150 less, and Intel has made me angry by changing sockets at every chance possible because they feel like it making motherboard prices skyrocket, while AMD has a standard socket for quite a few years, really gets the manufacturing process nailed down, and I can save a hundred bucks on just the motherboard that I know can last me a few years without it becoming an outdated trash compactor. Meanwhile the processors themselves aren't exactly competitive at similar pricepoints to Intel, but the motherboards are much cheaper allowing me to save a hoard of cash intead of dropping it for a Intel socket monster.

! ati/amd never did me any good, Id choose a Nvidia Gtx, anytime !

Then you should re-evaluate your purchasing methods to avoid being ripped off Always compare products from the two companies before rushing into a buy. At the moment, for example, the best value gaming system (i.e. ~￡500) is a gtx460 768MB/phenom II X6 1055T system.

and Intel has made me angry by changing sockets at every chance possible because they feel like it making motherboard prices skyrocket, while AMD has a standard socket for quite a few years,
Intel's main LGA775 socket was first released in Feb 2004... you can still buy boards and CPU's for that socket today, almost 7 years later. Meanwhile, since 2004, AMD has released the 939 socket, the AM2 socket (2006), the AM2+ socket (2007) and the AM3 socket (2009), the majority of which is incompatible.

I agree with shin on this one.

Used to run with an Amd 2800+ xp (Socket 754), then Athlon 64 Fx-52 (Am2) and my latest Amd was an x4 635/640? (3.0 ghz)(Am3). In the end, finally hooked up with an core i7. (My first intel processor too )

I hope, some of you, see my point...

I don't agree with shin at all.

You CAN buy old ass processors for old ass boards at any point. But can you put an i7 into a LGA775 socket? or an i5? or anything? no. Can you put a phenom II X6 into an AM2 socket (which hails from 2006)? Yes.

I don't agree with shin at all.

You CAN buy old ass processors for old ass boards at any point. But can you put an i7 into a LGA775 socket? or an i5? or anything? no. Can you put a phenom II X6 into an AM2 socket (which hails from 2006)? Yes.
Point remains. LGA775 lasted a 7 year period. AMD's sockets lasted 2 years at best and not all combinations were compatible (TDP support, BIOS updates, pin conflicts, etc).

Dunno what things are like where you're located but you can still buy high end LGA775 CPU's here.

waaait it means that crysis 2 will be mayve gtx 580 build in it means it will play like gtx 580 i cant understand it meand shat if you have all requiments exept graphicks card it will run on max settings witchout lags or what? i cant understand

I currently have a LGA775 motherboard and CPU.

What is quite weird is how Intel decided to release the LGA1156 and LGA1366 at pretty much the same time, that angered me, especially now with the LGA1155. I loved Intel for the duration of the LGA775 (the old pentiums were svckish though), that was genius.

You can get premium AMD3 890FX motherboards in a price range of about $100 LESS than an LGA1366 X58 motherboard. That is extra money I can spend towards a video card, SSD, or an even better processor...

My choices from Intel amount to a Q9505 on my same old 650i northbridge, or getting an i5 760.

From AMD I can get a X6 1075T @ 3.0GHz, 6 core goodness that destroys the 760 and is a cheaper upgrade choice becuase of motherboards? I say hell yes! An old Q9505 costs more than a six core processor? Intel has had their head up their butt for quite a while when it comes to price/performance. It is not really a secret that Intel focused motherboards are outrageously priced.

The 6970 from AMD and 570 from Nvidia are perfectly matched and priced, so I think I will have to go with Nvidia on that one, this GPU series is admittedly one of the best ones for the consumer currently, it is not often $350 can get you such superior products.

I don't agree with shin at all.

You CAN buy old ass processors for old ass boards at any point. But can you put an i7 into a LGA775 socket? or an i5? or anything? no. Can you put a phenom II X6 into an AM2 socket (which hails from 2006)? Yes.
Point remains. LGA775 lasted a 7 year period. AMD's sockets lasted 2 years at best and not all combinations were compatible (TDP support, BIOS updates, pin conflicts, etc).

Dunno what things are like where you're located but you can still buy high end LGA775 CPU's here.

Core 2 quads aren't 'high end' any more and are easily trounced by, may i add far cheaper to boot, phenom II's

AM2 has lasted for 4 years of high end parts too and will do so until next year, which is almost exactly on pat with the lga775. What you're basically saying is that in 2 years i can claim that am2 has 'lasted' because i can put a phenom II X6 in it.

It's purely false, a socket is only 'current' when brand new products are made for the socket. Being sold =/= current processors. Therefore unless an i3/i5/i7 is on an lga775 mobo, it is not a current socket. It'd be the same if the phenom II's weren't on AM2. AM2 stops being current, along with AM2+ and AM3 next year when AM3+ releases and the processors don't work in the older sockets.

LGA lasted 5 years, not 7, as a socket suitable for brand new CPU's. Which is standard fare. However this whole palava of 3 sockets in 3 years from intel, coupled with no overclocking at all makes me wonder how anyone can stand to buy intel products and support what they are going to do.

Thank god that bulldozer looks like it'll blast intel out of the water. They need it.

Who cares? Make it run good on everything or a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

Who cares? Make it run good on everything or a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

That's never an easy case to live with, corporate standards and stuff, like that always, interfere and come for the top bidder to select. In this case, Nvidia got to Crysis 2 first, before Amd/Ati ever made any move...

before you start to spread FUD (and become yet another cog in a marketing scheme) black angel. AMD cards WILL WITHOUT QUESTION run crysis 2 very well and almost certainly on par with nvidia cards of comparable performance.

This sponsorship is for marketing purposes of being able to place the nvidia logo in the opening credits and being able to say 'this game works on a gtx580'. Same as for games like bioshock. There has been no game with huge disparities in performance in a long time between the two vendors (except maybe far cry 2, but even then AMD cards don't struggle).

Therefore if i see anyone recommending not buying AMD cards for such a reason, they will be put in their place immediately

Also, considering the market, making AMD cards not running well would be just as bad as not even making a PC version of a game. It'd be the equivalent of not letting crysis 2 run on monitors with a native resolution over 1024x768. AMD own 75-80% of the market for the generations from hd4/gtx2 to hd6/gtx5, so do you really think crytek would be that stupid? No, of course not. It's for that reason that AMD didn't bother making a move. They have all the time in the world, and pretty much every 'nvidia game' for the last 2 years have also had the AMD gaming evolved slogan associated too (such as in civilization V), AMD just don't advertise it as much.

You have to remember, this isn't 2001 and the abundance of tech sites show us how certain cards really match up, if AMD cards don't run the game well, it won't be AMD that will suffer - it'll be crytek.

You have to remember, this isn't 2001 and the abundance of tech sites show us how certain cards really match up, if AMD cards don't run the game well, it won't be AMD that will suffer - it'll be crytek.

This part - I truly agree with, and I apologize if I sound like a corporate stuck up. It was just an opinion. And so far, my troubles have ceased, and By the way -
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Merry christmas too black angel

Merry christmas too black angel

And Happy holidays or Happy New Year, What ever works for you

Does the Gtx 580 have a mobile edition?