You get used to the favourite menu. It doesn't even feel like I pause the game anymore.

And the MG questline in Oblivion got one thing right and that was the ranks. Other than that it was horrible. The plot was horrible and didn't get me to involve much.

I would like more hotkeys though but it's not a game-breaker to me.

No, I don't get used to the favorite menu. I hate it on every character. And for ME it makes the game unplayable as a mage, as I don't like pausing my games every 5 seconds during combat. Might as well be turn based at that point.

Where is the plot in skyrim's MG questline? Maybe I blinked during the 5 quests and missed it.. I would definitely rank the return of a necromancer to cyrodil and the undercurrents of distrust througout the MG and necromancers being uncovered and on and on as being far superior to the 'Hey Im a magic faery guy from a magical place and I chose you cause your S P E C I A L!'

didn't you JUST say the opposite?

Getting strange visits from the Psijic Order, Ancano constantly watching for the Thalmor, the Eye of Magnus is a much better plot in my opinion.

I wish the battle with Ancano was more epic and required more than just pointing a certain staff in the right direction. I was really looking forward to a knock down mage dual with him. They did a good job of building up to it and making Ancano someone you could really hate, but the ending was quite the let down.

Ok, then it's just not for you. I can understand that. It's just that for me it feels pretty fluent as I've developed a rhythm when I'm changing spells.

try that again by counting the number of times you got hit during the combat.
i have.
magicka and stamina can be guessed accurately through time.

Yeah, I now play without the HUD, so that might have made the Ancano battle a little more fun, although I don't know how much more fun that battle would have been. My concept of a fun mage battle would be finding out your enemy's weaknesses and strengths by noticing what spells they are hitting you with and what your spells are doing to them and adjusting the spells you are using accordingly.

Ok, then it's just not for you. I can understand that. It's just that for me it feels pretty fluent as I've developed a rhythm when I'm changing spells.

The plot could be good but the necromancer didn't even feel like he was powerful. And the ending with Arch-Mage Traven was to obvious.
I did however enjoy going around to every MG to get recommendations. It made the storyline longer and I'm always up for that.

Getting strange visits from the Psijic Order, Ancano constantly watching for the Thalmor, the Eye of Magnus is a much better plot in my opinion. But that's just down to personal preference really.

No, I didn't. Where did I say that?

you have become desensitized, thats not the same as the game not pausing. your game is pausing, you now just don't have to feel any tension about battle because you're going into a pause menu every few seconds.

Hrm.. I think the lack of context and brevity generally about the MG doesn't allow any story tension and shows a real lack of thought. excluding the putrific `radiant` quests, there isn't really much story there at all.

I understood you to say the 'favorites menu was great!' Then you said, 'I would like more hotkeys'

No, I'm fully aware that I'm pausing the game. But I've set up my favorites to what I'm most likely gonna use and I know what buttons to press in what order to get the spell of my choosing. That helps a lot and doesn't pause the game for more than half a second-ish.



I actually liked the lesson and wish there were more of them. As I said, it's down to personal preference if you like the Oblivion MG or Skyrim MG questline the best.


No, I said you get used to it. I think the favorites menu is good enough but I would like more hotkeys. It can be improved.

Also, how do you get the quote tag without the timestamp?

I wish the battle with Ancano was more epic and required more than just pointing a certain staff in the right direction. I was really looking forward to a knock down mage dual with him. They did a good job of building up to it and making Ancano someone you could really hate, but the ending was quite the let down. It was not long after that that I got bored with mage play (at least pure mage play) and moved on to warriors and nightblades.

EDIT: I think the reason I am bored with pure mage play (apart from not enough variety in spells) is that the spells that seem the most interesting to me (Illusion and Conjuration/Necromancy) seem to go better with a nightblade build than a pure mage. My concept of a pure mage is not someone who is sneaking around.

No, I'm fully aware that I'm pausing the game. But I've set up my favorites to what I'm most likely gonna use and I know what buttons to press in what order to get the spell of my choosing. That helps a lot and doesn't pause the game for more than half a second-ish.

I actually liked the lesson and wish there were more of them. As I said, it's down to personal preference if you like the Oblivion MG or Skyrim MG questline the best.

No, I said you get used to it. I think the favorites menu is good enough but I would like more hotkeys. It can be improved.

Also, how do you get the quote tag without the timestamp?

I found play a mage is incredibly boring, well in many game, not just skyrim.

What skyrim is doing bad is the ability to use multiple spell smoothly. look, you got to equip a spell... press favorite or use hot key and it still just do the equip thing.

Here, you already free 1 or both hands, why don't you're able to cast the spell directly with the hot key or from the favorite menu. Instead, got to equip the spell and launch the spell afterward?

I don't support enhancing destruction magic to where it is able to beat everything alone, but if there is more supporting effect within destruction spell, and you can cast different spells by pressing hot key only, i believe will make a big different.

Just a suggestion, make cross school magic in skyrim. Why don't make it so your ice bolt got slight chance to paralysis foe if you also learn a specific perk in another school. If doing so, Destruction mages will learn other school perks in order to improve their destruction effectiveness.

It seems to me that you want pretty much everything for nothing here.

Is it not perfectly reasonable that you should have to equip a spell before you can use it? Why should it be any different to anything else? I have an bow in my favourites list but I'm sure you would agree that it would unreasonable were I to be able to fire that bow just by selecting it in my favourites...
(At least I hope you would think it was unreasonable)
having to equip it first means you have to plan and think ahead about what you want rather than just sailing through the game just pressing the odd button - this latter approach does not sound much like fun to me.

Also - higher level magic school already allow a certain amount of implicit cross-school activity, for example destruction spells will make low-health enemies flee and cower, which is effectively fear.
Pardon me for being blunt but if you were to use it properly instead of wanting everything to be handed to you on a plate you might find it's not at all boring.
(Addendum: besides there's nothing say you have to play a pure mage, the game has more than enough freedom and flexibility in it to allow for all sorts of combinations of magic and weaponry. If you do play pure mage that's entirely your choice, so you can hardly turn round and complain that it's boring).

Watching Deathlords running round like they are on really bad acid : master level Restoration never gets boring for me.