DUNMER CHILDREN! : V

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:50 pm

What are the chances of there being dunmer kids in Solstheim? For adoption too? It would make sense since it is a Dunmer settlement, and if they were gonna add it in a dlc (after hearthfire anyway) this would be it.

This thread is not for Beth bashing for not having beast and elven kids. So don't do it. Complaining is fine, just don't be rude about it.

Discuss

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:01 am

The aging process of elves have always confused me. Is the first 20 years much like human standards, and then the aging process slows to a near halt for a while? Or is their first fifty years the same as our first 20? And what about mental growth? Have we already ran into what the elves would consider children?

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:07 pm

I hope there are. I would even like to see other races of children though they are less likely to be included.

On a similar note....

Why weren't there Dunmeri children in the Grey Quarter in the vanilla game?

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:24 am

Colonel just wants a mini-Dunmer slave. I know what he's up to.

But yes, like other Hearthfire features, I would like to see continued additions/support in this and other DLC.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:13 am

Colonel just wants a mini-Dunmer slave. I know what he's up to. :wink:

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:42 am

... I can't imagine a dunmer child. Seems like an impossible concept.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:17 am

I suppose it'd be neat, as long as the kids aren't as obnoxious as some of the existing ones.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:57 am

As long as they don't look like Braith and the other Nords in disguise, yes it would make sense to have them.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:37 am

I need dunmer children! I refuse to adopt a nord! I hope they add at least one dunmer children to adopt

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:12 pm

The Dunmer will have little nord/breton children

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:54 am

I refuse !! I rather let them die of cold in the streets!
Really, I need a dunmer children! Hope someone can mod one if them does not come in the DLC :blush:

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:53 am

Kids with snotty attitudes? You don't need Dunmer children for that. :tongue:

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:08 am

Your title made me think there was confirmation of Dunmer children and therefor lead to my excitement hoping that there were Khajiit children... Thanks for that. >.>

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:14 am

Don't wanna crush your dreams but.
TES and Fallout DLCs can not interact.
The adoption system of heathfire can not interact with new children of other DLCs. It would create loading errors.

Imagen someone wtih dragonborn DLC but without hearthfire.
Dragonborn loading new children -> loading hearthfire adoption system -> error not found.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:15 am

EDIT: Nevermind, thought of some holes in my argument.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:56 am

Don't wanna crush your dreams but.
TES and Fallout DLCs can not interact.
The adoption system of heathfire can not interact with new children of other DLCs. It would create loading errors.

Imagen someone wtih dragonborn DLC but without hearthfire.
Dragonborn loading new children -> loading hearthfire adoption system -> error not found.

Yes it can. Quite simply all they would have to do is have features dependent on Hearthfire disabled if Hearthfire is not installed.

And no one's even talking about Fallout DLC.. soooooo

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:25 am

Yes it can. Quite simply all they would have to do is have features dependent on Hearthfire disabled if Hearthfire is not installed.

And no one's even talking about Fallout DLC.. soooooo :tongue:

Let's wait and see what happens.

As for Fallout 3. Fallout 3 and NV works like Morrowind and Oblivion. (and so does Skyrim)
Guns Runners DLC for NV is a good example for this issue.
Wepons from guns runner can not get perks from the other DLCs.

And no it is not quite simple.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:28 am

The Dunmer will have little nord/breton children

Or white Redguards.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:39 pm

Heehee.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq55-Dq5zvo

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:01 am

Need dunmer children! Need other races children! Why? For athmosphere, for realism. Not only humans has a children. But of course, I don't much to imagine mer child.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:13 am

there coude be dunmer children there, from lore perspective and mechanical but I will doubt that, DLC need to be independent of each other, as such Serana will not be marrieable in Dragonborn because she is from Dawnguard, and there will be no more children for adpotion because adoption is from hearthfire

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:16 am

If there will be Dunmer children I have to find a way to dump my human children I have already adopted.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:30 am

Let's wait and see what happens.

As for Fallout 3. Fallout 3 and NV works like Morrowind and Oblivion. (and so does Skyrim)
Guns Runners DLC for NV is a good example for this issue.
Wepons from guns runner can not get perks from the other DLCs.

And no it is not quite simple.

If Bethesda can't perform a simple check to see if another DLC is installed and then enable/disable an option based on that, we're all doomed.

The bottom line, IMO, is not that its difficult to do but rather, whether Bethedsa consider it worth doing or not.

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:39 am

If Bethesda can't perform a simple check to see if another DLC is installed and then enable/disable an option based on that, we're all doomed.

Its not that simple... its the way the entire esm and master file system is build up, if you have ever worked with mods and attempted to merge two master files then you would understand

» Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:44 am

If Bethesda can't perform a simple check to see if another DLC is installed and then enable/disable an option based on that, we're all doomed.

The bottom line, IMO, is not that its difficult to do but rather, whether Bethedsa consider it worth doing or not.

This "simple" check involves factors like load order and the check itself can result in a error.
DLCs are like a closed world. The only know themself and the main game. A precise check for something outside of the world is no simple task.

Sure, they can import a seperate adoption system for Dragonborn but this would result in:
"Ok child i adopt you.... but sorry the DLC you live in does not support the homes from Hearthfire so you can only live in the "vanilla" homes.
The bright side of this. More than 2 adopted childs are now possible.