Do Dunmer like Imperials or Stormcloaks?

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:55 pm

Oh, I don't dispute that these things can and does happen for a Dunmer PC. My question is would Ulfric, being who he is, do these things if he had a real choice? Does it not seem out of character?

There's a big difference between Dunmer and Refugee Dunmer. The Refugee dunmer are the ones that want everything to be like morrowind, hence the issues they're having with the local populace. You'll notice this in the book "http://www.imperial-library.info/content/scourge-gray-quarter". The writer is rather bigoted, but has no issues with the dunmer in Riften even praising them for contributing. It's the windhelm ones he calls out. The Hlaalu were always the most flexible house and seem to be getting along just fine with the natives. Any outside dunmer shouldn't have much of an issue besides proving that their intent to help is genuine.

Not all dunmer come from morrowind. Even less care about the old traditions. The Windhelm refugee group are a special case. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/dunmer-skyrim is a pretty good reason why there's still so many hostilities.

Indeed, one might be surprised as to just how well we've settled into Windhelm. The district once known as the Snow Quarter is thus named no more. Now, they call it the Gray Quarter, for such is the reality of the Dunmer occupation. The district is now populated entirely by my kind, a victory not lost on its residents.
Oh, but the peaceful occupation goes even further. Thirsty? You'll find no Nord mead hall in the Gray Quarter. But the spirits flow well enough in the New Gnisis Cornerclub. Seeking a respected family? You'll find no Gray-Manes within these walls. But perhaps you'd like to pay a visit to the home of Belyn Hlaalu, descendant of one of the most noble houses in all of Morrowind. Ah, but no. You Nords don't come to the Gray Quarter, do you? You fear our streets as you fear our skin.
So now, "children of Skyrim," you have the truth of it. You may call this province home, but you can no sooner claim to own it than a cow can claim to own its master's field. You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter.

That does not make for good relations.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:25 am

Ulfric apologists are hilarious. He could kill their mother & children and they'd find some way to forgive him. :biggrin:
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:28 am

Ulfric apologists are hilarious. He could kill their mother & children and they'd find some way to forgive him. :biggrin:

Imperial milk-drinkers are hilarious. They could be given all the evidence in the world and completely disbelieve it.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:04 pm

Well, all the evidence in the world is in the Empire's favor. And I have yet to find milk in the game. :bunny:
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:44 pm

Well, all the evidence in the world is in the Empire's favor. And I have yet to find milk in the game. :bunny:

*is given plenty of evidence, doesn't provide any of his own*

"All evidence is in the empire's favor"

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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:28 am

Plenty of evidence was provided, and you chose to ignore it. Like a typical dumb Stormcloak yee-haw yokel. :bunny:

Edit: Inbred. Forgot to mention inbred. :twirl:
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:32 pm

Plenty of evidence was provided, and you chose to ignore it. Like a typical dumb Stormcloak yee-haw yokel. :bunny:

Edit: Inbred. Forgot to mention inbred. :twirl:

Please point out the so called evidence. Because I'm pretty sure it all got refuted and you guys started circle-jerking propaganda around again.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:44 pm

Lol. Now now boys, go find a nice neutral fort and beat each other's brains in. :D
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:39 am

Lol. Now now boys, go find a nice neutral fort and beat each other's brains in. :biggrin:

But Akanaro, there's going to be bandits in it, and they'll ruin everything.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:58 pm

Please point out the so called evidence. Because I'm pretty sure it all got refuted and you guys started circle-jerking propaganda around again.
The Empires right 'cause I said so!
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:22 pm

The Falmer were poisoned by fungis... By the dwemer, the "dwarven" race.
The nords didn't really do anything about the falmer. xD

The Ysgramoor committed genocide against the Falmer and drove them underground actually. The companions guild is descendant of his 500 warriors. If you do their quest line you get an axe "Especially deadly to elves" which just kinda pisses my Bosmer ranger off
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:49 pm

I know this reply is late, but the whole "Nords hate all," philosophy stems from how Dunmer are treated in Windhelm. But I will say not all of the Nords [censored]-baggery is uncalled for, some accept outsiders who come in and work like everyone else ect. it's just Ulfric seems to be a jerk, ignoring bandit raids on other races in his hold, but if it's a Nord village then he rally's the men!
And yet in Blood on the Ice people are complaining he's not doing enough in general, because the guard is stretched thin. The man is conducting a war. The worst you can say for him is that he's distracted and maintains the status quo that started under imperial rule.

Also the Argonian Assemblage. Argonians are simply not allowed to live in the city, and are treated like crap by their employers, who support Ulfric. I always play an Argonian, so that right there was enough to shift my sympathy towards the Empire.
...the empire who wanted to cut your head off for no reason and without a trial. Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

And my last case, is Ulfric's Lieutenant guy. If you try to join as anything other than a Nord he's like, "LOL Why does a LIZARD/ELF/CAT want to fight for Skyrim?" Sure, he's not saying no, and he doesn't want a sellsword, but obviously there are underlying opinions of others races that he has. As compared to the Empire, who don't question your race/intentions, and accept you as if you'd been an Imperial born and raised in Cyrodiil.
Galmar asks that of a Nord PC, too. So it's not just your special snowflake who gets asked to prove him/herself. Everyone is expected to do so. This is the Nord mentality- you're not going to just have something handed to you, you have to prove your worth. At least Galmar didn't try to cut your head off, then offer no apology or explanation, just say "oh, you were at Helgen, well talk to Rikke if you want to join up." If people can stomach that but get their manly feelings hurt by Galmar and Ulfric, I don't know what to tell you.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:36 pm

They've always lived in the Grey Quarter- according to Niranye, that's because they choose to do so. Skyrim is in turmoil, so sure life is getting harder. It's getting harder for everybody.

You have to listen to everyone, not just one side. There are Dunmer who do nothing but sit around in their club and complain about their situation. There are others like the shopkeeper and the Hlaalus who are doing just fine and making a good living, even employing Nords, or the farm worker who says his family gives him grief because he works for Nords. The Dunmer are not innocent lambs. They've helped to create the conditions they're living in.
Ulfric also helped create the condition they're in. Regardless of how things were before, things have gotten worse and it's not the war's fault. The Dunmer have stayed out of the civil war yet ever since Ulfric became Jarl, things have worsened for them, and Ulfric has shown favoritism of Nords over Dunmer, going out of his way to ensure Nords are given preferential treatment than Dunmer. Argonians have it even worse. Given how much most Nords worship the ground Ulfric walks on, I find it highly likely it was him who set up these unequal policies.

Much of this is from the perspective of a Nord. And perspective goes both ways: plenty of people say that Ulfric is a power-hungry despot.
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