Because so many people are expressing the typical knee-jerk reactions that I expect when I come here, I want to see elfpunk in TES. Because the conniptions and self-righteous posturing of the faux offended are just... so much... fun to watch!

Personally, I'd be okay with it, but only as long as the elf race isn't immortal. The immortal elf thing? It's all done. Played to the hilt. It's tired. It's expected. It's [censored] boring. Worse, it's stupid.

If the elves and fairies are going to be immortal in the contemporary world? You can keep 'em. Otherwise, bring it on. I'm all for pushing boundaries.

No. That would absolutely ruin TES. I say this without exaggeration: the idea being proposed makes me feel sick in the stomach.

But the point of Elfpunk - apparently - is to transport faeries and elves from a rural setting to a modern, urban one.
Given the fact that the TES universe is fundamentally not a modern - relative to our own - universe, how exactly would you go about implementing that, then...?

Or stir the S**t !!!

You talking about http://www.imperial-library.info/content/loveletter-fifth-era-true-purpose-tamriel, OP? As someone mentioned earlier TES has spaceships. That is one reason why TES is not a medieval fantasy and also why it will never closely resemble our own world. Technology and politics progress, but in different directions to our own history. And if this involves Dunmer in leather trenchcoats and sunglasses, I'm going to have ask you to leave.

Skyrim takes place in 4E200.

Earliest recorded date is ME2500. We don't know how long the Merethic Era lasted after that, so I'm starting at 1E0.

Between 1E0 and 4E200, 4450 years have passed.

The most advanced thing outside of the Dwemer to have come from that is... a few spells, artifacts, and some armorsmithing techniques. We are actually sent back in time at one point (or at least view the past,) and meet past heroes, and they're not armed with anything too different than what you currently can get. Certainly, most if not all of their weapons and armor isn't obsolete. And some of those guys date from the Merethic Era! 4E1200 isn't going to see Elfpunk, and it's certainly not going to be too different from what we've seen in TES beforehand.

Compare with the real world- in recorded history (approxametly the same time as recorded history of Tamriel) we went from city-states using plows and manpower, barely creating weapons and armor out of anything more advanced than Bronze to guns, airplanes, computers, etc. If Tamriel hasn't changed that much in that timeframe, it's not going to suddenly experience a technological revolution anytime soon.

That's ironic, you want TES to be drastically changed to the extreme displeasure of its fans, yet if someone suggests changing Fallout, you get mad.

I am not in that line of work so I wouldn't even know where to start. But I don't need to know how to implement something to know that I would be willing to see it be done by somebody else!

You're a [censored] idiot.

Yeah... I'll pass .Im just guna wait for Fallout 4. I like having the tes game formula/mechanics in fallout, but NO lore or midevil [censored] in a modern setting. If they actualy did this, It would have to get 5/5 stars, 10/10 scale, 100/100%, perfect reviews in EVERY REVIEW I READ for at least 6 months after it came out in order for me to buy it, and even then, I WOULD NOT consider it a tes game.

Ugh, no thank you.



And what is with this "___punk" stuff?

If anyone from Bethesda is reading; never do this.

Pretty sure most of it has rebellion related stories, which might explain why there's many kinds of sci-fi with the word punk in the title.

I like what you're getting at, but not how you're saying it there. You are using Fallout as a sci-fi example, but I think this sort of thing could actually work and be lore friendlier than a fluffy-book-worm-rabbit.

As far as I understand, http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Yagrum_Bagarn from Morrowind shouldn't be dead unless I'm forgetting something that happened in Morrowind, or something happened since then. He believed the Dwemer didn't die, but rather went to another plane of existence. Perhaps that could be the kind of sci-fi tie-in you're looking for? Imagine the stuff the Dwemer could make up with a few thousand years to themselves, eh?

I haven't played skyrim since I've bought New Vegas and Fallout 3.

Dubstep from the U.K. is awesome, but nowhere do I see it being of any use in elfpunk.

Answering someone else's comment:

Shadowrun looks ok, but I want to see that World translated into the Elder Scrolls. Just because I feel it needs an upgrade in it's evolution.

I for one would not like it.

Also I'm nowhere close to hinting at Dunmer wearing glasses and trenchcoats. When I envision the word Elfpunk, I only see an act of rebellion towards the social norm along with the technological aspect. Class warfare between elves vs. elves vs. humans vs. beastmer, etc.

Magic would evolve, machinery would evolve, armor, even the Dark Brotherhood would evolve.

I also love making jimmies rustle.

I just have to add to the chorus of nos. no no no. dear god no.

I get it, you like Fallout.
Go play more Fallout. Or wait for Fallout 4...or 5, if you're from the camp that calls New Vegas Fallout 4.
All you're doing is being an antagonistic dolt and really not pitching your idea...How many people need to disagree with you before you realize "Hey, this isn't biting..."?
Calling us blind doesn't help either...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg2u_De8j5o


Fallout is not fantasy + science fiction. Fallout is (supposed to be. ¹￡#@$%@! Fallout 3.) an intelligent rpg with choices as the central element.

Some people here seriously need to take a chill pill, twice as day as prescribed.

How would Elfpunk enhance RPG aspects? Elfpunk magic? Bethesda's problem is they're creatively redundant in the writing department - tagging on futuristic elements would not change that. You'd just be dungeon crawling in futuristic dungeons doing the same fetch quests and being presented with the same linear quests with the same lack of choices, just more futuristic ones.

Personally I myself prefer the Fallout world - but Falllout is Fallout and TES is TES. It's no good a TES fan saying Fallout needs to go all high fantasy because they like high fantasy. If you like Elfpunk, you just need to hope someone makes an Elfpunk game, which they probably will at some point. TES has more than enough lore and potential already - it just needs Bethesda to capitalise on it and get back into the RPG spirit.

This.
ALthough in fairness Skyrim isn't high fantasy...

The farthest I can see the whole of the TES series going in terms of technology is a setting reminiscent to the middle renaissance.
While the subgenres that'd dominate such a near diluted form of the series, should be from the current rate of advancement, to be like:

• Clockpunk - As seen with the tribunal demigod, Sotha Sil, in his depicted futuristic development of an underground clockwork city.

• Steampunk - As seen with the enigmatic athiests of mer, dwemer, whoms ruins show us their extended level of scientific intelligence.

• Teslapunk - As seen with the star-born empirical mer, ayleids, whoms wells show a similar path to alternative, yet infinite energy (magicka).

• Dark Fantasy - As in the ever increasing use of necromancy, torture, prohibited schools of magicka and increased daedra worship.

• Science Fantasy - As magicka is the science of TES, it's seen as a matter, which so often is exploited, that 'a wizard did it' is often too true.

• Fantasy - As with all the past TES games. Without this creativity to permit a steady flow of monsters or new dangers, one could hardly call it TES.

Such an idealistic future of The Elder Scrolls series is not easy to picture, especially if one takes into account other ingenius devices like sload airships.
Those that are existence right now, which by this point in theory, could have been evolved into a new upgrade? like to this example- as sload zeppelins.

It's such a disastrous affair to debate on, this is. For the Elder Scrolls, as a fantasy series, is prone to not formulate well with realistic comparisons.

You know, this thread might be better off in the TES General Discussion forum... as it has nothing to do with Dawnguard, and doesn't really seem to deal with Skyrim other than in the thread title.