I have noticed that FilePlanet seems to be simply taking mods from TesNexus, regardless of what the modder has put regarding usage of the mods on the download page and in the readme. They upload them to FilePlanet, usually getting the name and other information wrong in the process, and although many modders have tried to contact them FilePlanet just ignores any communication from modders.

The reason why I have noticed is because my large Oblivion mod is there, incorrectly named, and they just lifted my short description word for word. I have sent 4 messages to the staff there and filled out a support ticket, asking politely for the file to be removed. However the ticket was deleted and there has been absolutely no response whatsoever, and the file is still there. They are blatently ignoring the people whose work they stole.

I have since found out that this has been the case for many if not all modders who have contacted FilePlanet asking them to remove the mods they stole.

I am in this Skyrim section because I am noticed so many Skyrim mods just lifted off TesNexus, on release, uploaded to FilePlanet. Descriptions, images, files just stolen. I am talking a heck of a lot of mods.

So I am wondering if anyone here has had any success in getting their file removed from FilePlanet? If so, how? Maybe I am sending messages to the wrong people? Is your mod on there? Were you asked? Have you tried to get it removed?

And I thought Curse and Gmod were bad, at least they communicated and removed the files when asked. This whole blatent disregard and attitude of FilePlanet actually has me concerned about releasing mods for Skyrim.

Apparently because this SOPA bill that big companies are trying to get passed, are only going to apply to people like me and you, while sites like FilePlanet will go untouched.

Well look at that, my http://www.fileplanet.com/222044/download/Fallout:-New-Vegas---Energy-Shields-Mod for Fallout: New Vegas is on there without my permission. They did attribute me as the author though, so I guess I can't be too angry. Still, it seems awfully dirty to do.


My advice? Just don't worry about it. People are going to steal your stuff. At least as modders, we weren't making any money off our work anyway. I'm a little perturbed by someone stealing my stuff and posting it somewhere else (and really? That tiny description is all you can give? Do you know how [censored] long it took to design http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=43680 alone?), but in the end, I just can't let that kind of thing bother me (but seriously, [censored] them still).

yep...been saying this for over 4 years now....

About 2 or 3 times a year I contact them to remove my mod but I get no reply at all.

The real problem is the mod rev they stole and now distribute daily has a very bad bug that will freeze your animations. But even THAT they do not care about.

If it was the other way around, they would slap all of us with Cease and Desist Letters.......

Try looking at it a different way. Your mod is getting attention, and will be spread to more people through file planet. What more could you ask for as a modder? Granted permission would have been ideal, but still, the glass stands half full.

I have to agree with Neeross. While it's annoying when the wrong version or wrong information is posted, and it svcks to have things posted without your permission, this IS the internet, and people are going to redistribute anything you post for free, whether you like it or not.

But that just means your mod is getting attention, which in the end, is a good thing.

Still, I always thought Fileplanet was lame, and it's even lamer if they ignore requests to take down files.

While I can agree that it is nice to at least be getting attention... There are a verity of different types of attention and this is borderline between good and bad attention...

Given that I don't get paid by the download the only attention my mod is getting is the attention that makes FilePlanet money....ad views, downloads, new sign ups to their paid features...and on and on. I don't benefit at all. My goal in modding is not to spread my mod over the internet and thus be happy, it is to enjoy modding and enjoy interacting with users of my mod and other modders. None of these things are acheived by FilePlanet stealing my work.

But it boils down to a huge lack respect for other people and their work, especially by a reputable company that claims to be so supportive of the gaming communities. To simply ignore any communication sent by modders whose stolen work you host is admission of guilt, highly disrespectful and lacking in any kind of human decency.

I really want to know if anyone has had any success getting a mod removed, I did hear of one, but that was a long time ago.

And Meek gets it in one. The "I don't know what you're complaining about, you're just getting more attention" line of reasoning is ignorant and rude. Not everyone cares about the attention, and lots of modders care about other things more. If we wanted things on FilePlanet, we'd have put them there. What FilePlanet is doing is copyright infringement, it is illegal and criminal, and it's an abuse of modders because they know that we're all individual hobbyists who cannot afford the time or money to sue them over it. It's disgusting.

Agree completely DragonWraith . I don't even go to that site . Haven't for years . I just hope modders don't stop modding because of jerks like that .

Have you considered asking Bethesda for help? Since Bethesda's EULA says they own anything made for their games, Bethesda would have the clout to intervene on a modders behalf.

Do you think Bethesda would care about this and possibly try to get their legal team to do something about it?

That might actually be worth a shot.

With mods going to Steam, it might be possible to get Beth/Valve involved.

A more significant problem is that of updates.

Those versions may eventually become updated, people using them may experience and e-mail you about bugs long fixed but you have no way of reuploading the illegal uploads

Another problem i had was that people developed "variants" of one of my mods which they also uploaded, many without permission - in turn these variants often had sloppy coding or bugs and people'd then send me e-mails telling me to fix a problem with a version of a mod that I didn't even realise existed. I still remember getting a message about my zombie mod "21 days later - Version 4". And I was like "I didn't even realise there was a version 3" (Since i only created up to version 2)

Problem is that Bethesda are not interested in getting involved, as history has shown, and to be honest it would open up more problems for them then it would fix for us.

One modders voice does not hold much weight, it is so easy to ignore. After all what can one person do, they will give up when they get no response, which is exactly what FilePlanet want.

Many voices though......

We don't need lawyers, there is more then one way to be heard and I think this may be important to do, before other sites learn from FilePlanet and we are faced with the likes of Gmod, Curse, and many others following suit. Followed swiftly by a multitude of modders giving up releasing mods period.

I have a plan and am making headway, base of operation being in the Tes Nexus modders forum where I have been chatting to other mod authors and getting their input. I think we can make waves and get something done about it....step by step.

Right now I am compiling a list of mods on FilePlanet that the mod authors want removed. We will write a polite and professional sounding letter listing the mods and asking that they be removed by the authors request. This letter will be faxed to the given fax number and I will very likely present a copy of it, in person, at their London office and hopefully San Francisco head office.

If that doesn't work then we move onto Step Two.

But we must have the backing of the author of any mods listed in the letter. I cannot appeal on behalf of anyone elses mod, only the actual author can speak for their mod and has the authority to do so.

This thread may be closed, I don't believe it violates the rules of the forum, however such a topic may not be considered good, I just don't know. If you have a mod hosted on FilePlanet and have made efforts to get it removed, to no avail, pm me or list the mod here if you want to attempt to get it removed with us.

Wow - out of date versions of OBSE, FOSE, NVSE and SKSE are all uploaded to Fileplanet as well. I know we didn't authorize any of those uploads either. KInda svcks.

I'm going to call it now, and say this problem is only going to get worse once the Steam workshop is rolled out.

There is no way they will have people sitting there all day dealing with problems like falsly uploaded mods if they are making no money off it. Thats one thing the Nexus team do well, is sorting out disputes over mods, taking down unauthorized uploads, and removing offensive stuff. Although I may be wrong, Bethesda/Valve may have a team moderating the files uploaded to the workshop, but that won't last forever, and once the hype around the game dies down, and sales have dropped off, they won't be around to carry on the work.

The fact that people re-upload others mods all over the place with no permissions is one reason I keep all of my stuff on my own private ftp that only friends have access to. I don't want to have to deal with the problems of people uploading buggy versions of my stuff, only to rag on it for being broken, when there is a perfectly fine, working copy on somewhere I uploaded and updated myself.

That's... not strictly true. I know they've sent C&D letters to sites that were attempting to sell people's mods. I'm not saying that I know they'd get involved here, but they might.

It might be worth a try if someone fancies pming Gstaff about it. Although I highly suspect that because the mods are not actually being sold they won't want to act.

And all the *SE documentation explicitly forbids redistribution... Yet one more reason to excommunicate/IGNore IGN. I hope they go down in flames!

Maybe you guys could band together, maybe get Dark0ne from The Nexus to head up a campaign against Fileplanet?

Set up like a pay pal account for donations towards legal costs and what not? And then begin a unified class action against them?

Dark0ne probably doesn't want to be and shouldn't be involved. He's a competitor, it'll just give the entire thing a really nasty edge, look like we have some ulterior motive of making Nexus more money or whatever.

I am pushing this and organising a movement already. Personally I think that it is in our best interests if lawyers and legal action were avoided at all cost. That said, of course the will of the majority prevails. But there is more then one way to get action and I think we should try all routes before resorting to legal action.

If Step One doesn't work and in all honesty I fully expect that it will not work, Step Two will create waves for sure. Step Two is to write an article on this and submit it to every gaming site, gaming magazine and gaming blog out there. Nothing gets a company's attention like bad press.

But again this is something that can only be acheived with many voices.