Yeah, I got that part. But like I said, there's no point to it. If you want to play a Female or Male Character, that's opposite your first character's gender, then just make a second character, go through all the same stuff you did with your first character, and you'll experience the game through a male or female roll, the same way you did with your previous character. Gender realignment has no purpose in a FO game, when you can choose to be male or female the next play through, and play it the same way you did before.

It's not like it would be hard or time consuming to add this feature into the game.

Plus this is scifi stuff so it's not out of the realm of possibility in the Fallout universe.

They already added the feature. It's called starting a new game as Male or Female. It maybe scifi, but it doesn't mean there's a point to suddenly going from male to female or female to male. Plus, it'd take up a lot more time, seeing how if you were able to change your characters gender in the middle of the game, then the whole game would have to somehow change dialogue to fit your characters suddenly new gender. Unless you don't have a problem with a male character becoming female, and the dialogue still saying Mr. or whatever? There's just no point, and it would give you more chances to play the game over if you started a new game as a new gender.

On a close subject, did anyone else read the thread title as Gender Changing Mini-Game?

I guess you failed Biology. It doesn't matter how many operations one has, or how many hormones one injects, your gender cannot be "reassigned", as it is in your DNA. That's what BabyBottomPlop was referring to. "Gender re-assignment" is just a politically correct way of saying "I'm gonna hack your genitalia to make it look like the other gender".

You can easily change your gender in the console... let me play as a different race in Fallout, then we'll talk about adding a gender changing feature.

I read the title as gender changing minigame. Oh dear...

No, i'd rather stay a permanent gender from the start.

This. As long as the rule is "If you don't like it, don't use it" let's throw in a button for the achievement-mongers that you click and it automatically gives you all of them. A button that completes the entire main quest and all side quests. A VATS "Use all guns whether I have them or not" option. And everyone who doesn't like them just doesn't have to use them, right?

Now yore just talking semantics. If it looks like a woman, acts like a woman, and has the chemical reactions of a woman, it's a man because that's his/her birth gender. I'm not here to argue that, which is true to some degree. A Trans-man/woman is someone who, to the extent of medical science, become the opposite gender, complete with the same sixual characteristic (Hip, mammaries, genitals facial structure, ect.). That enough to pass as the opposite gender under all but the most intense scrutiny. The point is that it is just another facet of roleplaying, nothing more or less. There no "Win button" in real life, as that most recent post idiotically tried to protest (Most likley do to some for Xeno or Homophobia). This is a realistic possible feature that has it's use for both roleplaying and humor. I find it to be a halarious concept, Immagine reporting for duty afterwords- Private Arnold Amber, anyone?

Wow. I address the addition of a feature to a game, and the rationale often applied to same, and I get bizarre accusations of personal phobias? Unable to see the point for your own biases much? Off on some personal vendetta? Or just plain stupid?

I'll go with the third option myself...I've got at least as much evidence to support it as you have for your bizarre xenophobia/homophobia claims, which is to say none whatsoever.

Because the ability to instantly win the game is totally the same compared to opening a few dialog options and changing the way your character looks. :rolleyes:

I know plenty of people who are Homosixual/Bisixual/Transixual on the internet, and being from oklahoma, I see prejudice against it every day, comparing to much more spectacularly impossible things and treat it as a disease on everything they care about. Sound familiar?

This arguement is getting too political/ethical IMO. *looks at Tyson and, according to Tyson, Alois Hammer.*
In my opinion, it would not work as some traits/perks/possible quest choices/outcomes are gender-specific.

This topic is heading way off from changing genders in Fallout New Vegas.

So, if in the next few posts we are not talking about New Vegas and changing Genders in that game, then this goes bye bye.

Black Widow Becomes Lady Killer.
Action Boy/Girl
Daddy's Boy/Girl (Or whatever replaces)

Edit: But like I was saying before, I don't EXPECT it, but I don't object to it, either. more features are always good, as long as they aren't gamebreaking or anything.

Very, living in Kentucky and and knowing quite a few such people not only on the 'net but in real life. I know one guy who is gay (and describes himself, quite accurately, as a "gay redneck"), and has a father and brother who are the ("more stereotypical" redneck) embodiment of "those people are just sick." 'Nother friend who's now 35, after being diagnosed with AIDS at 19 and told he'd never see 21. Yes, I know well the prejudices of the stupid redneck. By no choice of my own, I'm related to a whole horde of'em and there's likely not a great deal you could tell me about such people that would surprise me, or that I haven't run into personally.

This doesn't change the fact that one, I was addressing the knee-jerk "don't like it, don't use it" rationale for adding any feature, of any nature, to any game and its inherent absurdity given how clearly it can be used to support insane additions, and two, that you chose to launch a baseless knee-jerk personal attack with no supporting evidence whatsoever.

True, but you could have rationalized it better by comparing to something that wasn't game breaking, but would feel entirely alien to the franchise (Such as, saya majority of the stupid things in Fallout:BoS.) as apposed to making it sound like something that would completely make the game entirely pointless, finishing itself for you. My accusation where purely based around the way you worded it. Say, for example, someone said that for adding races to Fallout 3. (something unavalible in Fallout 1-2, you were a white man or a white woman.) Do you honestly believe it woudn't come off as racism?

Thing is, those probably won't be the only (or most critical) things affected. Plus, someone would scout out a town, do the math for the male/female ratio, and then switch genders when appropriate. Or they would abuse speech options to get the best deals on everything those perks affect. For example, say someone used Black Widow to convince someone to stop bothering person A, then they changed gender to get a better award from person A. It would be unbalanced. And even if the game let someone do that, what would the NPCs say? "Well hello there sweet- oh wait.. never mind, I thought you were someone else."(although that would be kinda funny)

It would expensive, and possibly non-reversible. That would be impractical, and if someone was REALLY committed to doing something as inconvenient or crazy as that for +10 damage, then let them.

`showracemenu, now that'll be fifty caps for another successful op.

Here on the internet, we can randomly swap genders all the time. Everyone does it ... right guys? ... right?

Let whoever's scammed plane tickets from a lonely middle-aged chatroom perv cast the first stone :user:

Take the stupidest conversation you can imagine, and smash it into the face of the most pointless conversation you've ever heard.


This here is that conversation.

Better yet, the sixchange command:

player.sixchange

it exists in Fallout 3 already. And Oblivion too, for that matter, but it's bugged and causes the game to crash.

Hmmmm this is Vegas we're talking about here; changing genders should be as easy as changing clothes and makeup

Who's gonna know unless it gets personal?