http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=9_DKqFZcFEQ
I think that this about explains it perfectly. Especially the Skyrim shutting the mw3 fans up part.
edit: fixed link

Are you on the phone? It takes me to a page with a few YouTube vids.

Ya.

Your link is not working for me, either.

Is this topic related to Skyrim?

For CD methinks, and broken link is broken

I think so. The video is about how people stopped spamming mw3 stuff as soon as skyrim came out and how people want more and more hand holding in gaming. If not feel free to move it.

Sad how the comments section is just one big flame war.

He mentions balance being thrown out the window for COD, but that's essentially the state of balance in Skyrim.

Also, whether accurate or not, the "they're dumbing games down for noobs/casuals" criticism of the gaming industry is just plain old, this guy is saying absolutely nothing new and this video is a complete waste of time for anyone who's been playing games at all at any time during the past decade or more.

The state of the gaming industry has pretty much always been about pandering to the largest demographic for most games, it has never changed. There have always been niche markets for various tastes within it, but there's never been some magical golden years time when all the mainstream games were for "hardcoe" gamers.

Game companies are in this to make money. That's it. Profit is the only thing that drives any industry. If you are making a game for a select group of "elitist" with a few million invested in the project, then you are essentially cutting into your profits to satisfy a small segment of the customer base. Look to your modding community to give you what you want.

But... Halo: Combat Evolved didn't cater to any demographic even remotely, and look what happened to it.

i love the flame war going on in the comments, looks like BF3 is tearing CoD a new one (and TES is ocasionaly ending some idiots who hate [and dont even know anything about the "oblivion games" as he says ])

Er yeah it did cater to a demographic, FPS gamers and Sci-fi fans.

I think profit is the largest motive, but I also think developers want to make good games. At least bethesda does.

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Posted a comment on the video.

Man speaks the truth, every shape and form. I'm glad too even people on my friends list who've never played TES ARE playing it now! Same people have played EVERY COD on release (Black Ops, World at War, MW 1, 2 and 3.

Their responses to the game overall?:

"Addictive as hell"
"CAN'T STOP PLAYING!"
"So glad you introduced me to this game.."

These are REAL quotes from my XBL MSG Inbox, from friends whom I've asked that are just playing for their 1st times.

Honestly, I hope they keep getting more sales and BEAT MW3 so that people can finally see the [censored] light..!

The 80's begs to differ.

Unfortunately the price for "seeing the light" is much greater than it needs to be.

Uldred

I get what everyones saying it makes sense Skyrim is something fresh and new theyve changed gameplay mechanics, overhauled the gamebyro engine to the point where they changed the name and modern warfare hasnt changed much sense cod 4 i used to play all the time but after mw2 i stopped buying they werent changing enough i borrowed black ops from a friend i liked it but mostly the campaign and the zombies honestly it wasnt enough for to want to buy it though..... Call of duty has a huge following they always have but i cant see them keep this up for very long for example battlefield while it lost the race gave it cod a run for its money and its only a matter of time until cod loses its fanbase because of them pumping out another slightly changed game with barely improved graphics and different guns, setting

No they don't.
Certainly the main demographic has changed over time, since in video gaming's early age the average gamer was a much different sort of person than the average gamer today, but 80's games were still so basic being challenging was the only thing that made them interesting for anyone. And they weren't even necessarily challenging in a good way either.

I wasn't playing games in the 80s since I wasn't born until 87, but I've played games made in the 80s and let me tell you, it's nostalgia taking over if you really feel games back then were in any way superior to games now.

This whole video game politics (like BF vs. CoD) is getting old.

Barley improved graphics and different guns = SKyrim lol

this is kind of why i think skyrim may be one of the greatest games in recent history despite being IMO worse than every other TES game except maybe arena. its certainly not up to par with the great RPGs of the past, but its shocking popularity shows that this style of game, regardless of how watered down it is in skyrim, can appeal to a great many people and may help to turn around this "multiplayer FPS" obsession and get people interested in more engaging games. that will change the thought process of what publishers believe can sell, ultimately allowing developers to have more freedom and control over their products as actual good gameplay becomes comparably profitable to social skinner boxes.

in short, skyrim may be the start of a trend that will allow RPGs and other games to be made with a high quality that otherwise would not be feasible in the current industry.

I like COD, I like BF3 and I like Skyrim too, but I have gripes with all three. Making sweeping statements and generalizing any kind of media and the people who enjoy it is as asinine as it is bigoted. People spend money on what they enjoy, they enjoy things based on personal preference, please stop wasting my time by arguing the validity of my taste in media. Instead, why don't we spend that time discussing how said media we both enjoy can be improved for our mutual benefit. This post is not aimed at anyone in particular so much as it is just a statement of my general disgust with people's condemnation of others and the things they enjoy simply because they don't derive that same enjoyment.

One can only hope, but I have a feeling it's going to be all about quantity over quality - how fast can we pump these new trendy games out? And with that in mind, since there's what 50mil Xboxes sold in the world, that will be the target audience and we PC/PS3 users will still end up with a crappy port like Skyrim. Not to mention how much more, well just going to say it, dumbed-down it will be.

Uldred

Here's my question - why would you play Battlefield?

If you want to play a fast paced easy to jump into shooter, you can play Modern Warfare.

If you want to play a high skill and teamwork based game, you have Halo.

Battlefield is just for those who want to think they're awesome but don't have what it takes to hang with serious Halo players. There is a reason it doesn't sell all that well. It is a very narrow niche.

Anyways, at the topic of Skyrim being to Oblivion what Modern Warfare 3 was to any of the other modern warfare games... eh, I wouldn't really go that far. The combat in Oblivion was ass, complete ass. I played the main story, did a couple side missions, and thought the game was ass and returned it. The combat feels greatly improved to me. It is repetitive and could use more depth, but that is why I'm holding out hope for some really sick DLC - Mass Effect 2 was able to put out DLC with interesting combat scenarios and boss battles, so I know that it is possible for devs to make DLC that just really steps up and delivers. If Skyrim gets a Lair of The Shadow Broker, I will forgive it for most of its failings.

Halo is an entirely different setting than BF3 and obviously BF3 has better graphics. BF series has a different feel to its gameplay as well. I don't play BF3, but this is kind of obvious just from gameplay footage. I know a couple pro-level FPS gamers from another forum(counterstrike players not halo but whatever) that play BF3 and enjoy it in fact.