What I want to know is...who's the chick?

Besides we all know that House is Howard Hughes and Andrew Ryan's illegitimate love child cyrogenically frozen to open up years after the Nuclear Holocaust

And who is that chinese guy? Are we gonna fight chinese communists too?

CHANGE THE TITLE WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?! "my theory on mr house"

Yup. Dogs, Deathclaws, Robots, and Yao Guai all shard factions with humans in FO3.

I would say a human commanding a robot army, is in fact, in the same faction as his robots.

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(He better be human, I want to kill him)

hes not an android he used cryo stasis and..... you know the old pictures of him..... well what if he was said never to leave the lucky 38 but he did in lets say a armored suit.... im betting for the guy on the front cover could be him just wearing a different suit...

Maybe he's an android goldfish. >_>

NERD RAGE!

Him being an adroid or a robot or whatever... is kinda close to being a supercomputer in my opinion. Is this the only type of antagonist that Fallout developers can come up with?

Except for Eden and Calculator has there been any more super computer antagonists?

Actually, Calculator was not like Eden either.


Master


President Richardson


Frank Horrigan


Calvert


Desmond


Alien Leader


Jingwei


Eden


Col Autumn


Wherner


Ashur


These are all the antagonists I could think of.
If I missed someone then feel free to point it out.

[edit]
Found some more.

Victor Presper


Simon Barnaky


Latham "Gammorin"


Jane


Blake

:huh:

Attis


Anyway, the point is that saying "Oh great, another super computer antagonist" is just full of fail because there has truly only been one in the fallout universe.
Maybe some of you are talking about non-fallout games that have already done that.
But if we're gonna go on that then every single antagonist in fallout has been unoriginal in appearance, except for the Master.

Rambling Aside. Fallout 3 and Tactics used Super Computers as enemies. Fallout 2 had Skynet as a potential enemy. Point is, half of those characters arent even plot essential, just big names in the plot. besides, Fallout 2 was 11 years ago, it isnt as memorable in terms of every detail, unless you play it constantly. Fallout 3 is the most recent, It used alot of robotic plot devices. Any more robot plot twists this time around and I'll rage face.

gabrieldan made a good point, but so did you.


rage face

Meh. I just can't stand people trying to make it sound like Fallout 1-2 did it right and 3 is nothing. I find all the Fallouts great (except the one I shan't name. :angry: )

I am just hoping he really is a pre-war man that froze himself. No more robot/super computer twists. I don't want him to be a ghoul, just a pre-war human.

I'd rather see him walking around, or if at best in bed or wheel chair connected to to some life machines due to some cyro-complications. With a protectron butler.

I totally knew that Mr.House would be in the suit of diamonds.

IMO Fallout 1 and 2 did do it right and Fallout 3 suffered greatly because Bethesda, admittedly, didn't put enough emphasis on their writing. It was a great game but not a great Fallout game.

As I've said countless times though, I'm confident that with Obsidian righting what Fallout 3 did wrong, if Bethesda can expand on the East Coast universe they've created whilst righting whatever it is that Obsidian does wrong with New Vegas....we'll have one hell of a Fallout 4. And then hopefully one hell of another Fallout West Coast game by Obsidian. And then one hell of a Fallout 5. And then.....

Also, be sure to make a ESV in there somewhere. I want to travel to Skyrim, or Hammerfell, or Elsweyr, or Black Marsh, or even back to Morrowind.
Hell especially back to Morrowind. Part of why I love New Vegas so much is revisiting places/people/factions from the previous games. I'd love to see how the Nerevar changed Morrowind.

Unless you have..........http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Repcon!

Agreed Ron Perlm- I mean Mr. SmileySmile but I'd rather they go to Valenwood or Black Marsh

An antagonist isn't plot essential?
So... Playing Point Lookout means Calvert and Desmond aren't essential to it's plot?
All of those I listed there are in the main storyline and are part of it. (Maybe not some of the F:BOS one's, haven't played that game).
And skynet isn't plot essential, you could play the whole storyline without encountering him.

I agree that fallout 3 had a lot of robots/cyborgs in it.
But it doesn't mean a robo plot twist can't be good.
It's all about how well written the character is and how it's presented.

this

Just to sort of go a bit further with what I think of the mainline Fallout series (1,2, and 3...and NV)

I think Fallout 3 was a great game, but a disappointing Post Apocalyptic RPG. That said as a first step it was pretty good. Bethesda got into the franchise, explored a bit, created some new groups and interesting locations (The Pitt, Point Lookout, Ronto, THE COMMONWEALTH!), and got a good functioning engine. Taking these tools and experience and placing a greater (Morrowind/Fallout like) emphasis on writing can lead to a fantastic game. The type of game that I regret buying because I sink too much time into it.

this too
It just seem as if all the time on here when you read someone reference or mention Fallout 3 all that you find afterwards is criticism and hate,
which is perfectly fine, but seeing it so much without it recieving any sort of commendation is a little deprssing on my part
but I digress
I believe we may have derailed the topic and should probably take this to a different thread

Back on Topic Then...

I still like the whole humanoid robots (replicants!) idea in Fallout games, I just don't want to see them used for M Night Shamalany twists for awhile. I'd be fine with it in a Fallout game that took place in The Commonwealth because that's clearly going to be a huge part of a game set in The Commonwealth....but it doesn't need to be present in every Fallout game...just like The Enclave and the BoS don't have to be ever present.

If these things show up in every game they start to become less special, same way no one really cares about M. Night anymore because they know there will be some "What a tweest!" at some point.

Heh. Maybe the Mr. House we've seen is just a robot controlled by the real Mr. House who, at this point, is just a brain in a jar. Or something better than a brain in a jar...

A goldfish in a Jar? DAMN IT! GABRIEL IS MR. HOUSE. :bonk:

Yes.
Yes I am. :disguise: