No im definitely not trolling, if the ncr wins the war at the dam there reallly isnt a whole lot of a way for them to keep expanding. Like I the only thing east of them is the legion so really they dont have anywhere to go unless they take the fight to the legion on there own land and I just dont see that happening.
And martyr, cmon dude your just drinking the house kool aid right now. At the point we enter the game house wont even meet with ncr officials to discuss anything. I doubt ncr is going to go to war with somebody for a little piece of land like the strip, it wouldnt make any sense to do. The reason that Moore orders a hit on him in the first place is because she believes that he's going to make a move ncr after the fight at the dam and guess what, she was right. He made the first move, not the other way around. Correct me if im wrong but ncr is the ones who have been working on the dam, not house. Ncr are the ones who have been keeping the legion at bay and stopping them from marching into vegas and enslaving half the people there, not house. House could have kept his three little casinos, but he got greedy and wanted to kick ncr out of the area all together once he had the ability to.
And what oliver said at the dam, all the courier did was flip a switch and start up a few more generators so house could run power to the fort, I think even fantastic could handle flipping a switch. Oliver's just a idiot.

House could have written his own deal to support NCR annexation, but it was never in the cards as he never had any intention of negotiating with the NCR. Joining the NCR would mean having to talk to other people who weren't subject to his will....which would bruise his massive ego. His plan all along was to get the NCR to protect him from the Legion until he could retrieve the chip and activate his Securitron Army then dispose of the NCR once they drove back the Legion. Then once in control of the Dam economically exploit the NCR for all it was worth. Without killing him or unplugging him (which to him is worse than being killed, there is no Yes-Man ending as the Lucky 38 network controls the Securitrons and House would much rather be dead than have anyone hold power over him. If you leave him in the network he will find a way to get control back and then do whatever he has to do to kill you. As far as the NCR, either you have a Securitron Army and don't need NCR troops, or you destroyed the Dam's generating equipment and there is no reason for NCR to be in the Mojave in the first place....they probably wouldn't annex the Mojave if you begged them to at that point. They aren't going to spend money and the lives of thier citizens to make you richer, they went down that road with House already. And without cheap power from the Dam....how long will the Strip continue to be a tourist magnet? The likely next step for the NCR would be to either have some of the deep pockets in the NCR set up thier own version of Vegas in the NCR proper or sink lots of caps into Primm as keeping I-15 clear from Mojave Station to Primm wouldn't be that onerous and with I-15 north of Primm being either left to the Powder Gangers and/or the BoS why would tourists go to the Strip?

If I were the Courier and going Yes-Man, I would be imposing some sort of order as otherwise there is no point in booting the NCR to begin with. I have no interest in being a fascist cosplayer like Caesar or a Robber Baron who conducts business at the point of a gun like House....but I'm not just going to sit there while the whole region is plunged into chaos when I have the power to do something about it. Going Yes Man to bring about "Anarchy in the Mojave" makes no sense....the Courier would do it to take charge of thier own destiny and impose his/her own Order or create the conditions for the people to decide that themselves.

I agree with you ^^^ that's exactly what I'd do. I'd want all the communities to enjoy stability; I'd have my eye on the whole region, not just Vegas.
I'd do all I could to persuade the Rangers to be come totally independant of the NCR and join me in that quest.

Maybe King and his guys could be encouraged to keep on the right path they've started on and develop into a Vegas-wide force for good?

I'd set things up (tax the casinos maybe) to share the wealth so that people like The Followers had better resources for their activities and research.

What the hell! I started this thread because I'd misread something that came up on the screen, but reading everyone's posts has now got me thinking hard about what I'd do and how I'd do it. OMG I've become political

You can say 'I'd do this' all you like. But what's in the narration is in the narration. It never says the player runs Vegas, nor does it say it doesnt. It's strongly implied your character is hailed as a champion and everyone just forms their own communities. Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you disagree with an endslide, don't do it then.

He actually has a pretty good point about the wild card ending being up in the air because after the ending of the game its really up to the courier what happens next, but there really isnt any way to put that into a end game slide is there. If this were real life I would probably do the yes man ending but keep ncr around and work with them instead of kicking them out like it does in game, but since its not real life my 'cannon' courier sided with ncr and let them handled things.

Well the "Independent" ending is just that, independence from everyone. So you wouldn't have the two superpower outsiders around.

They're too deeply involved with the NCR to split off.....though you might be able to recruit some of them. I'd reconstitute the Nevada Desert Rangers....and put Raoul at it's head. He'd make sure it got off to the right start as a professional Law Enforcement organization that strikes terror in the hearts of bad guys throughout the Mojave.



I''d help the King lock down Freeside, but I don't see him wanting to get involved in what goes on outside his turf....he doesn't like to get into other people's business.



They'd be paying taxes alright.....keeping I-15 and I-95 clear is going to be expensive and they're going to help pay for it as it benefits them. And one of the first things Raoul would be doing in his new job is going to the Gomorrah and making it crystal clear to Cachino and his goombahs the days of buying slaves and forcing them to prosttute themselves are over. If people want to make a living selling thier bodies that's thier business....but noone is running slaves in my territory, especially the sick s*** the Omertas have been up to. If they don't change thier ways I'll wipe them out and hand thier casino over to the Garretts without a second thought. I can accept ruthless....the Omertas are slaving scum.

Especially with that bit about Yes Man reprogramming himself to be "more assertive" before the slide show starts.

In the end, it would come down to, the one who has control of the guns has the power.

QUOTE: If I were the Courier and going Yes-Man, I would be imposing some sort of order as otherwise there is no point in booting the NCR to begin with. I have no interest in being a fascist cosplayer like Caesar or a Robber Baron who conducts business at the point of a gun like House....but I'm not just going to sit there while the whole region is plunged into chaos when I have the power to do something about it. Going Yes Man to bring about "Anarchy in the Mojave" makes no sense....the Courier would do it to take charge of thier own destiny and impose his/her own Order or create the conditions for the people to decide that themselves.


But then, that's the point I was trying to make. The endslides insist that the Mojave dissolves into near-anarchy following the withdrawl of the NCR. Whather the player, in the position that the Indy ending puts them in, would keep the NCR around or boot them out and establish his/her own order... either way, it p[oints out that fact that the future of the Mojave is at their discretion and therefore impossible to predict.