It will work on any container. There's nothing special about Alvor's container. I chose his container because his container already had weapons and armour in it that he will sell.

Setting the location to 'self' is actually a pretty good idea.

Yes, what this does is make it so that the PC will sell to you anywhere, not just in a specific location. This is going to be so useful when I get to making a couple of travelling merchants!


Update: SHE ALREADY HAS A CHEST!!! Whooeee!!! Assigned it to her, set proximity correctly (I set Location to Near Reference and set the reference to her chest).

Yay. Now to the next thing on my list... getting that daggum giant to stop attacking after The Cursed Tribe is completed.... I feel a bit ilke Monty Python...

"And now for something completely different...."

Thankyou very much for the video.

Now I can trade with my trader. Huzzah!

Although He wont buy anything from me and I havent given him anythign to sell. I'll have to edit the list I made.

Now I need to learn how to give my vendor an inventory to buy and sell and give him some spending cash.

He wont sell whats in his privately owned chest.

But Thx.

How do I get him to sel my custom items? I've made a list containing the 1 sword I made, and told the faction to use that list, but my NPC wont sell it to me.

I have to make it a leveld item, and add it to a leveled item list, then add that list ... nope, that didnt work.

Never mind, I figured it out.

I had to select VendorItemsBlackSmith in the faction vendor tab. My custom made list didnt work, but he now sells my custom sword in the chest.

Thanks for the Video. Was helpful. To conclude this Thread a step-by-step-list to create one from scratch:

* Create a Box and add Items or Gold etc and place it in your room (out of sight).
* Create the Faction
* Add the Vendor to the Faction and add the Box as Reference in the last Tab
* Create the NPC, give him clothes, etc.
* Add the Faction to the NPC
* Add "DefaultServicesEditorLoc24x7" as AIPackage from "Character->Packages"
* Add "JobMerchantFaction" from Factions <- that was the one I was missing

Then he should talk to you.
Limiting his Services to your cell also works. I just tried it.

Perhaps a step-by-step using existing merchant as a base will make it easier for people to understand.



Creating a merchant, starting with duping an existing one:

Type "Belethor" into the search bar.
Click "All" at the bottom of the list on the left.
Click and open Belethor.
Click "Factions"
You'll see Services Whiterun Belethor Goods Faction.
Change the ID of the open Belethor to whatever you want.
Change the name.
Press okay. You've now made a duplicated belethor.
Open the duplicated belethor.
Click factions.
Double click "ServicesWhiterunBelethorGoodsFaction".
Change the ID.
Change the name.
Click okay. The game will create a new faction for you.
Delete ServicesWhiterunBelethorGoodFaction from Belethor.
Right click the factions window, click "New", and find the new faction you made.
Double click the faction in the factions window.
Click the "Vendor" tab
See "Reference"? It says BelethorsMerchantChest.
Go to the search bar in the items list on the left and find BelethorsMerchantChest.
Duplicate it.
Change the ID.
Change the Name.
Save.
now in the Vendors tab of the new faction you made, change the Reference to the new chest you made.
Now double click the new chest you made and you'll get a window with an inventory section labeled "Item list".
Inside that list are vendor object groups.
You can edit or duplicate or whatever the hell you want to these- but if you edit one, it will apply to ALL merchants who use it, so if you're making your own merchant and want to ADD things, make a new one.
Simply drag items into the list. The "Count" variable determines how many the vendor can have at any given time, and the "Chance None" variable determines what the chance is that the vendor doesnt have ANY of the items in that grouping on hand.

Sorry if that's hard to follow.

Basically, a vendor requires:
Vendor Faction, which includes
Vendor Chest, which includes
Vendor Item Lists, which include
Items and quantities and the chance they appear in the shop.

It's not as complicated as it sounds. The steps described above simply work backwards from an existing vendor to learn how the information comes together.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=7766

I made this mod by creating a new vendor item list by duping a separate one, and loaded it with gemstones. Then I added that list to belethor's WhiterunGoodsChest, which is tied to his faction, which is tied to him as an NPC. It's really quite simple.

Well thats 1 sword down. 75 to go.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/469735349003631330/C58E533273F62767C821E86D8A7177E6D5D99545/

Oops, I didnt see the video tutorial.

Still, working backwards is always, always, always, always the easiest way to figure out how to do things from scratch.

Good wortk, Baratan. Your video is now listed in my Tutorial Video thread, stickied at the top of the forum for all to benefit from.

Also a side note

from my NPC i've been working with
JobMerchant and JobMisc from the factions were rank -1
i deleted those factions and re added. Now they are back to 0. I now get the dialogue option of "what do you have for sale"
But there are no items in the inventory list. I've already linked the chest and added the reference. Is this from the buy/sell list?

Did you set up the item list in the faction vendor tab?

Using VendorItemsMisc - for the buy/sell list


Also it's not showing any items for me to sell for to the vendor out of my inventory.

mine wont show up any chat at all and i did everything lol does it have anything to do with dialog?


EDIT: okay figured it out it has to be a person with a voice i was doing a dremora and they have no dialog for voice so it wasnt working so i changed voice to khajit and now he trades with me.

THANK YOU! JobMerchantFaction HAS to be there to work, and I was missing this as well.

I'm having the same issue. He talks to me, but won't sale me anything nor can I sale him anything.

change your buy/sell list to VendorItemsDB

Thank you! Fixed it. Thanks to all on this thread that helped get this going for us.

Small resurrection, but reading this, and scratching my head further in the CS, this is a totally insane system for making a vendor. Bring back the MW system of simple tick boxes to select what that NPC will buy/sell, and give them ownership of containers.

I looked further, as currently, there are a series of types of vendors, which appears in the vendors drop down list in the faction screen.
Eventually found where these items in the list are defined, in FormList.
Then, edit a form list, and see it works by using KeyWords, which are assigned to each item.

So, to make a new type of vendor that is a mix of blacksmith and inn keeper (for example), you need a new FormID that has the keywords unique to those two vendor types. Then that FormID can be assigned in the faction, then assign the faction to the NPC and container.
Phew....

This Construction set is just plain insanity.

Well, with flexibility comes complexity.

Does anybody know where the amount of money a merchant has to buy things is set? I thought it could related to the class, but it doesn't matter what class my vendor is: she only has 50 gold pieces to buy things.

Add the money to the Container you use for him.

Thanks Scorcher! I am going to try that

Are there additional rule when using a creature chassis? I'm trying to use an atronach and I'm not succeeding... in first instance he did not talk. Now (after this thread) it uses his maledunmer voice for comments as I pass (how are you sera etc) but I can't interact with it.

I've now tried it in another way (I've actually duplicated Belethor, and his faction etc etc all that is in this thread) and then he worked (might not suprise you all since so much succes has been reported).

THEN I ONLY changed his race from breton to flameatronach (in traits) and deleted his inventory (the key, misc item and something else) and (I left all AI, faction etcetc etc the same)... it doesn't work anymore. What is the problem with the flame atronach being merchants, what is different about that race?

What is the problem with this?

Hmm I've also tried to get a dwarven sphere to give dragonbounty quests and he doesn't want to be spoken too either.
I've read that creature and NPC wheren't really seperated anymore but I DO seem to run into problems along that line.

Does anyone know if specific things need to be set in order to be able to use these "creatures" as NPC's ?