Assuming that Bethesda actually reads its own forums, I'll add my two or three cents worth on the DLC subject...

I feel it should be a separate install entirely, not really tied to Skyrim at all until applied. By this I mean, much as a mod, it is a separate set of files that can be turned on or off at will, AND in a seperate folder, with seperate registry keys. If I need to re-install Skyrim, do I really need to download 3 GB each time? (here in NZ, we pay crazy prices for our bandwidth...) I don't mind paying for the files ONCE, but each and every time that I choose to re-install Skyrim? And what if I don't like the textures, or like some others better?

Content loaded from Steam's Library/Tools menu can be deleted by going to the Tools menu and right selecting on the content to get the pop-up menu and selecting Delete Local Content.

Edit: I'm an idiot who didn't pay close enough attention. It looks like once you install DLC your stuck with it as far as Steam is concerned.

There is no pop-up menu such for the DLC, only for the CK and the entire game. And if you reinstall the entire game, the DLC gets automatically downloaded again.

If your computer can't handle it, you probobly don't have the hardware to see the difference it makes anyway. These features are put in to let people with gaming rigs enjoy their computers. It doesn't apply to everyone.

I want this to stop downloading period! Why can't I do that once Ive decided I dont want it? Ive reinstalled Skyrim and this bloated piece of crap DLC just starts downloading. No whay to stop that? Really? Why? Im the type of Elder Scrolls player that continually experiments with mod content and regularly wipes clean and reinstalls to try a completely different direction, this 3 gig high-res crap is destroying that for me. Just deactivating it doesnt cut it. I tired it. I dont like it. There are better alternatives and mixes IMO and I want it to stop.

Contact Steam support and try and get the DLC revoked from your account. That's the only way. May take them a bit, Valve is scrawny so they have a bunch of tickets per person.

Yeah, I was just about to do that. I dont get why it has to be this way tho. It would make it easier on everyone, including them. if its a bandwidth thing then maybe they shoudnt be doing it at all.

Oh yay, have to jump through another hoop with steam. Glad i passed on the hd pack . This is an importantly lesson for everyone to learn. Eff steam.

It's because of how Beth implemented it. They implemented it as DLC to give folks the option, though it could have very well been a regular game update. The option was to make it so that folks who didn't even have the computers for it wouldn't need to download 3 GB of stuff. However, it was supposed to come with the game in the first place. Why it didn't is beyond me. Therefore, it was added as part of the game itself to represent that fact and to make it more of a part of the game than a mere replacer.

The reason why you cannot revoke games and DLC from your account without contacting support is rather simple, really:

To prevent folks from accidentally, or otherwise, losing out on paid content and such. That's not the only reason, but it's one of them.


Well, I guess that answers the topic itself. For anyone just joining us, my main post is above the 2 previous ones at the top of this page (on my screen anyways).

Yes but problem is some systems can handle it and some can not -- and since the DLC is tied to your steam account every system that you install it on has to have it installed so you wind up wasting the 3+GB of HDD space on the systems that can not use it (which most likely also have smaller HDDs to begin with so that wasting 3GB+ worth of that space in addition to the game files for the normal install is pretty ridiculous ! -- For those that have desktops for gaming that also want to use a laptop at times to play the game it does not make sense to have to have that additional 3+GB of data wasting the laptop HDD space not to mention having to download the DLC content a second time to the laptop if you do not copy it off of your desktop before launching Steam on the laptop just to disable the esps.

Thing is, if it came with the game initially, as it probably should have, then you'd have the same space used up. For future printings, they may want to include it on the disc and make it the missing detail level and selectable as such.

Could it have been handled better? Of course, but at least they released it. Hopefully, they will implement it as a detail option in the future to help with confusion. Though, I don't really see that happening anytime soon.

I would like to finish the main thought here, but a poor night's sleep is making it hard to make the rest make sense >_>

No if they had been released with the game then the lower resolution textures would not be there thus using less space (the lower resolutions are made using mip maps that are already inside the higher resolution textures) so for a lower quality setting the highest level mip map just does not ever get used but you do not have a separate set of textures for each level so would not be wasting all of that HDD space that having 2 full sets of textures takes up. Plus those would have been included on the retail disc so you would not be downloading 3+GB of data to each of your systems everytime you decide to reinstall !!

I get what you're saying.

I formanted a Dvd to act as a flash drive. Did a cut and paste to the DvD. 2 Files Computer>Program Files (x86)>steamapps>common>skyrim>data> HighResTexturePack01(BethesdaSoftworlsArchive) and HighResTexturePack02(BethesdaSoftworlsArchive). Total of 4.37gig. both texture packs fit just fine on a DvD.

With no data high texture packs. Started the game from Steam library browser. Game started and played np. Took the Texturepackes and moved them back to the Data file. Started the game and all is good. Back to HD textures. Skyrim game file back to 8.73 gig.

Would think this would work with a cheep flash drive also.

That's true, but my rig was on the "edge" of being capable of handling it or not.
Plus, just because you have a rig that can handle it and download it, doesn't mean you necessarily like it. Some people prefer modded textures are checking the DLC texture pack in-game, so what about those people?
When there are no official comparison screenshots either, it's pretty hard to know whether you'd like it or not and how big of an improvement it is.

In short: there should definitely be an option to uninstall a 3GB DLC.

Just to finish that thought, there should be an option to uninstall and NOT RE_INSTALL a 3GB DLC!!! There must be not enough Kiwi's on here to appreciate that a 3GB download eats up 1/7th of your entire month's download allotment...

Just contact Steam support to have the DLC removed from your account. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Yeah that's probably possible but as others have said... that may take a while.
And it isn't very reasonable to have to contact support just to uninstall a part of your game. Also, if everyone who wanted to uninstall something did this, it would overwhelm the Steam support by faaar.

In other words... not a good "solution". Is it really that much to ask for an uninstall button for DLCs? Sigh.

A lack of an uninstall button for DLC is just inexcusable. I've found myself using that word a lot with Skyrim. It's a shame, it is a terrific game and remarkable technical achievement, marred by outright sloppiness and disdain for the customer.

You don't make any sense. You want mods to fix things, but you don't want an official high-res texture pack? I don't understand how your brain works.

...And you have dealt with steam support, right? I currently have an outstanding ticket that is over a month old. Steam has tried to close the ticket three times, with no fix offered, and still has no clue as to what to do to fix the issue.

I have, BTW, opened a ticket on this issue, as I also feel that I shouldn't have to re-download the DLC content in order to re-load my game. Unlike some of the yanks that populate this site, some of us in other parts of the world have limited options in our speed / size of pipes available, as well as our up-download monthly limits. 3 GB is one seventh of my allotment / month, and I am not happy to have to download that every time I want to re-install. I would rather pay a one-time fee for phisical media if they cannot make it so that a DLC can be linked / unlinked from an account. I hope that it is not the same with the steamworks mods as well, I may try ten mods and end up using one. I'd hate to re-load my game and have to then re-load every mod that I'd tried, just because I'd tried them...

...Just did a quick count... I've tried 153 mods, and use (currently) 11, counting the two hi-res DLC's.

Oh, wow. Unacceptable.

Again, yay crackers. Thank you for taking Steam out of the equation as to give us back control.

Wish it didn't have to be that way, though...

Croc is right,i'm a kiwi and we would rather have had skyrim on a disc,Dlc optionable uninstall.

Thank god i didn't bring down that pack,it wasn't worth the possible bugging.

We pay $106nz for the game on release and found i couldn't get it down until a week later,i had to pay extra because i was losing a few gigs because of steam.

If steam is the future then yeah get in line and grab a ticket,reinstall the the game,see if that works,if that dose'nt work reload win 7, all that for a game? how many patches is it going to take? how many did oblivion take?Hell i ran that game on a crappy old singlecore through an old xfx agp card,the only trouble i had was the mods.

It seems that some of you either have no idea how to use Steam and some of you simply just want to rant. That's fine, but Steam is a service that allows you to make local backups of games you've purchased. I've been using Steam since it first launched and I've never had to re-download a game. It's as simple as right clicking on the game in Steam and choosing "backup game files." As for deleting the DLC from your account, this should be the simplest thing for Steam support to accomplish.

But this begs the question: if you didn't want or couldn't afford to run the HRTP, why did you add it to your account in the first place?

So, wait... since you downloaded it once you cannot get rid of it in future installations of Skyrim? That's... that's... stupid!