Khajiit In The City : V - Skyrim

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:45 pm

Maybe you can roleplay that you are officially working as assistant in some shop or manufacture, so your employer just vouched for you.

I play Khajiit named Raksha and she lives in Whiterun with 3 others Khajiits (Khajrio, Jzargo and Shavari (yes, that one Shavari from Riften)). This is how Raksha explains it, when you ask her about it:

love this.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:12 am

Maybe shes's interested in History? and everything just ''goes too far''

She isn't, but that museum could be a nice place to rob. And everything just "goes too far".

Good idea, although i would say an Inn would more suit that way She can pick her targets carefully and with a calculated risk, also this might give you an excuse to travel from city to city to pick up supplies or deliver them, pick up some more wine/beer from the meadary/Brewers etc. could open up more interesting plot lines for her i think, especially as people do come and go from taverns and inns where i very rarely see more than a few people go in and out of a goods store.

Working for Belethor was a joke, but this sounds good. This also solves the problem of alchemical ingredients, as she doesn't gather them herself and can't buy them openly where she lives either.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:44 am

how about instead of the girl next door you can be the cat next door, you know, the one that doesn't belong to any one person but all the people in the neighbourhood feed it and give it attention. you couid be like that except you kill people as well, all you'd have to do is whenever someone talks to you get down on all fours and purr until they go away.

and khajiit aren't left out of cities because of any law, it's just that the stormcloaks don't want them in the city walls (so they keep them out with their nord muscles) and the imperials frown too much on (read: will behead you for) the skooma trade so the caravaneers don't bother entering. all other khajiit don't really have any reason to go into a city, j'zargo never enters winter hold because he lives at the college, and shavari is working for the thalmor, so is there on orders. other than that they don't even have many reasons for being is skyrim, too cold.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:57 pm

how about instead of the girl next door you can be the cat next door, you know, the one that doesn't belong to any one person but all the people in the neighbourhood feed it and give it attention. you couid be like that except you kill people as well, all you'd have to do is whenever someone talks to you get down on all fours and purr until they go away.

I'm not looking to play Khajiit for the sake of playing a cute kittie, it just so happens that Khajiit has the best racials for a character type I have in mind.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:37 pm

I wonder why they decided on having arguably no khajiit residents within any of the cities, considering their popularity. I doubt they thought, "Well, it's so far from the homeland and it's too cold, so let's do none." Argonians, I think, would be rarer. (Anyone know if they're coldblooded?) Other than the mage, (and that's arguable), there are ZERO khajiit residents. What gives?

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:08 am

I think my latest 'immersion' screenshots kind of suits this topic.

You shouldn't have problem blending in here in Whiterun, where we live :smile:

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3bc15eLKQ1rukl9oo1_1280.jpg
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3bc15eLKQ1rukl9oo2_1280.jpg
full post:
http://raksha-the-khajiit.tumblr.com/post/22147324503/cats-of-whiterun

And see, even guards don't mind us living here :wink:

http://whiterun-guard.tumblr.com/post/22082237728/greetings-this-one-has-a-question-but-first-here

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:21 am

Renrija Krin for life! Ahzirr Traajijazeri!

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:04 pm

I wonder why they decided on having arguably no khajiit residents within any of the cities, considering their popularity. I doubt they thought, "Well, it's so far from the homeland and it's too cold, so let's do none." Argonians, I think, would be rarer. (Anyone know if they're coldblooded?) Other than the mage, (and that's arguable), there are ZERO khajiit residents. What gives?

probably something to do with:

A. nobody trusts them (with good reason)

B. they really aren't suited to the colder climate

C. they originate from a client state of the thalmor (which is because they believe the thalmor brought back the moons, which is the very basis of khajiit society, biology and religion)

D. their most lucrative trade is moonsugar/skooma, which is illegal and watered down in skyrim

really, the question is why would a khajiit WANT to live in skyrim?

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:31 pm

I've tried a few Khajiit builds, but being the only one in the cities kills the immersion and I don't play them very long. Bethesda really went too far with the racism in banning them from the cities.

I wish there was a mod to fix this. [or a change of heart by Bethesda to at least ease up a bit].

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:05 pm

Or at least add some house cats in the cities, when you sneak into peoples house you gotta be careful and kill the cat before it blows the whistle.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:30 am

Or at least add some house cats in the cities, when you sneak into peoples house you gotta be careful and kill the cat before it blows the whistle.

You have dogs for it

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:32 pm

Bethesda really went too far with the racism in banning them from the cities.

I wish there was a mod to fix this. [or a change of heart by Bethesda to at least ease up a bit].

They didn't go far enough. I want my Altmer to be hated damn it! How can one RP a race unwelcome in Skyrim when Nords are so friendly to you? >.< (well, besides some guards insulting me for being an elf... but I wanted more hatred than that)
Well, at least the NPC's are discriminated. Thats something.

Either way, they should not ease up.

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:27 pm

probably something to do with:

A. nobody trusts them (with good reason)

B. they really aren't suited to the colder climate

C. they originate from a client state of the thalmor (which is because they believe the thalmor brought back the moons, which is the very basis of khajiit society, biology and religion)

D. their most lucrative trade is moonsugar/skooma, which is illegal and watered down in skyrim

really, the question is why would a khajiit WANT to live in skyrim?

A. None of the races can be fully trusted then. Why would an average Nord trust an Altmer more than a Khajiit?

B. Yet quite a large number of Khajiit caravaneers not only live in Skyrim, but even sleep in tents during snowstorms while Nords with all their innate cold resistance got warm houses. Despite the cold climate, there ARE Khajiiti in Skyrim, just not in cities, but wandering around in cold weather.

C. Which opens up various RP paths, such as maybe someone's Khajiit has fled from Thalmor reigned Elsweyr, or someone's Khajiit has never even been in Elsweyr to begin with, and someone else's Khajiit could be a Thalmor agent, but so could be anyone, like the Altmer merchant Niranye in Windhelm.

D. Yet I've encountered skooma dealers of all races, also I recall doing some quests that involve skooma dealers, and none of them are Khajiiti. Also, is skooma really so illegal in Skyrim? Because I can freely sell skooma to any merchant in Skyrim (and then buy it back), unlike in Morrowind where even having it in inventory made things rather problematic.

Bottom line - I can't see how total lack of Khajiiti in cities can be justified lorewise. Fewer in numbers, sure, but none? Doesn't make sense.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:21 pm

They didn't go far enough. I want my Altmer to be hated damn it! How can one RP a race unwelcome in Skyrim when Nords are so friendly to you? >.< (well, besides some guards insulting me for being an elf... but I wanted more hatred than that)
Well, at least the NPC's are discriminated. Thats something.

Either way, they should not ease up.

I agree, tho I'd like the ability to sway their opinion through direction action; at least with characters that you can interact with. That way you can get the feeling that you're making change, and still have those "stick to their ways" type racists that are obsessed with hate.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:34 pm

I don't really get why you can walk into any town you want while the caravans can't.

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:18 pm

I don't really get why you can walk into any town you want while the caravans can't.

Being dragonborn has it's advantages

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:18 pm

I don't really get why you can walk into any town you want while the caravans can't.

Shavari does it.

So does M'aiq according to himself. "M'aiq got in trouble in Riften and ran to Windhelm. Good thing nobody there cared". But he's a liar sometimes.(Though lately he's not really been a liar. Just a dude that spouts little quips about game features and veiled insults at features that were removed.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:02 pm

I don't really get why you can walk into any town you want while the caravans can't.

the caravans deal skooma openly.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:41 am

I want to start a city-dwelling thief assassin. She'd wear regular townsfolk clothes, her main weapon would be poisons. She'd be your unsuspected nice girl next door tending Honeyside's garden and ~~embroidering hankerchieves~~ enchanting (stolen) jewelery. She'd rather crack necks than spill blood, but she might carry a tiny dagger (Mehrune's Razor, if I can figure out why she'd be interested in visiting a certain museum in the first place) in her pocket. She wouldn't adventure, she wouldn't crawl dungeons, she wouldn't use magic, she's a city girl. Stritcly role played and specialized, she would be low level and weak, which is why starting racials would be important.

Khajiit has the best racials for my desired character. The perfect city-dweller's racials. Except the perfectly fit city-dwellers are not allowed into cities. And the only Khajiit in the city, even the capital city, hardly makes one your nice unnoticed girl next door. How do you Khajiit players deal with the fact that your race (except you) is not allowed into cities? Any ideas how I could twist this terrible and unforgivable Bethesda's mistake and make a city-dwelling Khajiit still possible?

If not, I'd have to play a Bosmer thief/assassin who pretends to be a fletcher. Which would require my character to go out in the wilds and do the rest that a fletcher does (hunts, wears light armour etc).

But I want my city-dwelling townsfolk dress wearing Khajiit. Bethesda, please call a moot and make Jarls to issue a decree that allows Khajiiti into cities!

There's at least one Khajiit living in Riften, could be others elsewhere (weak-kneed pun intended) I haven't run into yet. Maybe Riften is more open-minded than the other cities. Or, more likely, Bethesda just forgot their own "rules" and put her there for plot.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:23 pm

Being dragonborn has it's advantages

My Khajiit isn't Dragonborn.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:43 am

My Khajiit isn't Dragonborn.

Unfortunately outside of your imagination and inside the game, your Khajiit is dragonborn.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:40 am

Unfortunately outside of your imagination and inside the game, your Khajiit is dragonborn.

A character becomes [known as] Dragonborn only when he's witnessed absorbing a dragon's soul. Until then, she/he is a commoner.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:22 pm

They didn't go far enough. I want my Altmer to be hated damn it! How can one RP a race unwelcome in Skyrim when Nords are so friendly to you? >.< (well, besides some guards insulting me for being an elf... but I wanted more hatred than that)
Well, at least the NPC's are discriminated. Thats something.

Either way, they should not ease up.

Trust me, you don't want to be the only one of your race in town all the time. Hell, there isn't even a Khajiit in the Thieves Guild HQ. It is no fun whatsoever.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:03 am

And you also find a Khajiit named Shavari in Riften during a certain quest.

Lol, I thought exactly the same thing. And if you put off completion of that quest long enough, but visit Riften for other reasons before getting to it, you'll probably notice that she's there every single time, just walking around the place, and nobody seems to care or remark on the fact that there's a "cat" inside the city walls. For that reason alone, I'd go with Riften as well.

You could also RP that since the character is an assassin, she has ties to the DB (if you're not already pursuing that questline) and is somehow known to Maven Black-Briar for that reason, and that Maven has used her local influence to smooth the way for the character's assimiliation into the city population. If Maven's got your back in Riften, you're pretty much set as far as I can tell.

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:44 am

A character becomes [known as] Dragonborn only when he's witnessed absorbing a dragon's soul. Until then, she/he is a commoner.

The game does not care, you're dragonborn; live with it.