Layout of perk trees #2 : V - Skyrim

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:02 am

This is the third time asking this. Chart says sneak has 13 perks, but other sites are reporting 14 perks. Which is it?

» Tue May 15, 2012 7:33 pm

This is the third time asking this. Chart says sneak has 13 perks, but other sites are reporting 14 perks. Which is it?

The last two in the wikia are the same: crouch to vanish or wait for it... vanish..

» Wed May 16, 2012 5:37 am

Guys, the wiki and quakecon videos are probably out of date, most likely some perks where removed during development, since this info is new its probably the most accuret.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:08 pm

use your brain, the last two in the wikia are the same: crouch to vanish or wait for it... vanish..

The two are worded differently on the UESP. The site usually has a lot of oversight and most falsehoods are edited out rather quickly. I just wanted to make sure.

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:33 pm

The two are worded differently on the UESP. The site usually has a lot of oversight and most falsehoods are edited out rather quickly. I just wanted to make sure.

The wording is different because one reviewer thought it was a cool perk and said in his own words "vanish..." and the other is actually the description from the game "crouch..:"

» Tue May 15, 2012 7:36 pm

cool

» Tue May 15, 2012 7:34 pm

Has anyone else counted the number of perks?

I got 250 not 280

i got 260?

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:48 pm

Are you sure these are correct? I just checked the Quakcon video and Block has Riposte (between elemental prot. and deflect arrows) and it's not in your perk list.

These are not mine, the original thread was over the 200 post limit so I created a new one. The original poster got these from reddit.

These are from the retail game, Quakecon was a alpha/beta build.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:35 am

Wow. The perk trees are really well-organized! Nice job, devs!

» Tue May 15, 2012 7:49 pm

I hope riposte is in... (it's also in the UESP Wiki page about block)

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:34 am

Do the One-Hand perks no longer exclude daggers?

If so, the DW speed perk + Attack speed dragon shout + 2 enchanted daggers = blender

» Wed May 16, 2012 5:52 am

Do we know how effects stack? For instance: suppose I'm playing a Redguard. A Redguard already has 50% resistance to poisons. Also suppose I get the Snakeblood perk in Alchemy. This grants 50% resistance to poisons. Will my character have 100% resistance to poisons?

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:18 am

Do we know how effects stack? For instance: suppose I'm playing a Redguard. A Redguard already has 50% resistance to poisons. Also suppose I get the Snakeblood perk in Alchemy. This grants 50% resistance to poisons. Will my character have 100% resistance to poisons?

By Oblivion math, yes.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:37 pm

Do the One-Hand perks no longer exclude daggers?

If so, the DW speed perk + Attack speed dragon shout + 2 enchanted daggers = blender

For the ?billionth? time. Daggers are not included to the one hand perks. The dagger perk resides atop the stealth tree

» Tue May 15, 2012 6:22 pm

For the ?billionth? time. Daggers are not included to the one hand perks. The dagger perk resides atop the stealth tree

It's still confusing. They may not be affected by the damage perks, but shouldn't the dual-wield perks and the power attack perks still work with daggers?

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:22 am

For the ?billionth? time. Daggers are not included to the one hand perks. The dagger perk resides atop the stealth tree

He was checking to see if it changed since an exclusion is not mentioned in the latest batch of perk descriptions. Previously armsman specified it did not work with it and I suspect it still doesn't work with daggers, obviously the weapon specific perks don't apply, but I suspect the power attack and dual weapon perks do work with daggers.

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:00 pm

It's still confusing. They may not be affected by the damage perks, but shouldn't the dual-wield perks and the power attack perks still work with daggers?

Oh I assume yes the dual wield perks will work. I highly highly doubt the power attacks will work with daggers. Dagger decapitate? don't think so

So If one is determined to dual-wield daggers climbing the one hand perk tree to the dual wield perks would be the best bet.

» Wed May 16, 2012 3:31 am

At first we all thought daggers were sneak only..

I think that in the quakecon demo they are also included in one-handed..

Seems they changed their minds about it a bit and we can't be sure until we see the game..

» Wed May 16, 2012 7:21 am

Daggers are not in one handed, they are in stealth, as has been stated numerous times already.

» Tue May 15, 2012 9:50 pm

Oh I assume yes the dual wield perks will work. I highly highly doubt the power attacks will work with daggers. Dagger decapitate? don't think so

Well, I'm going to try getting them anyway. I intend to get every perk in one-handed except for the ones that specify axes, maces and swords. Once I get the game, if the description for the perks or the strategy guide mentions that those other perks aren't applicable to daggers, then I guess I'll have to change my build, but we'll see.

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:11 am

Daggers are not in one handed, they are in stealth, as has been stated numerous times already.

I-NO-RITE?

I am done correcting the mistakes over them though, a simple thread search should give anyone with questions an answer.

» Tue May 15, 2012 8:03 pm

Daggers are not in one handed, they are in stealth, as has been stated numerous times already.

It's not as simple as that. The weapons themselves fall under one-handed. Increasing your one-handed skill will in all likelihood boost dagger damage. It makes sense that some of the perks in one-handed would be applicable to daggers.

» Wed May 16, 2012 5:54 am

For the ?billionth? time. Daggers are not included to the one hand perks. The dagger perk resides atop the stealth tree

Daggers are not in one handed, they are in stealth, as has been stated numerous times already.

"Dual Flurry 1 30 One-handed, Armsman Dual wielding attacks are 20% faster."

So this will not effect me if I am DW'ing Daggers? I'm just curious, you never know.

» Wed May 16, 2012 4:25 am

I-NO-RITE?

I am done correcting the mistakes over them though, a simple thread search should give anyone with questions an answer.

I'm asking because the perks no longer say "except for dagger" like they used to. So i'm wondering if this is error or if it was changed.

:rolleyes:

» Wed May 16, 2012 9:22 am

Original Thread: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1250101-layout-of-perk-trees/

How many trees can i master in?