Least favorite race? #2

Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:29 am

From the last topic http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1384335-least-favorite-race/

There's always a "Favorite Race" poll somewhere, but never a Least favorite race poll. So, shoot. Which race is your least favorite, and why?

* Careful, here...Keep it civil.

Mine would have to be Nords. I've hated them since Morrowind as being barbarians with little care for politics.

Last poll ranking

Argonian (35 votes [9.41%])
Khajiit (37 votes [9.95%])
Breton (20 votes [5.38%]
Redguard * (46 votes [12.37%]
Imperial (36 votes [9.68%])
Nord (27 votes [7.26%])
Altmer (High Elf) (78 votes [20.97%])
Dunmer (Dark Elf) (46 votes [12.37%])
Orsimer (Orc) (28 votes [7.53%])
Bosmer (Wood Elf) (19 votes [5.11%])

Now as I was saying before we got the last one locked.

Wait, what?

Are you implying that life is easier for Imperials because the Nords have what, four walled cities? Walled cities that they fought and bled for? Windhelm was practically built with snow elf blood as its mortar.

Also, you're ignoring that the Imperials and other races svck in the cold. Nords don't.

They certainly don't live off the land as much as you claim, nords have industry and are more civilized then the Germanic tribes were during the ages of the Roman empire, also thats in skyrim, lore wise dawnstar had walls as did Karthwasten, winterhold, and several other cities. There are nords who do live off the land i.e. actually live in the wilderness but they don't make up the stormcloak ranks, most of them were born within the walled cities or villages, most work they've done is farm work or lumber work which are both done in great amounts in cyrodiil.
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Lori Joe
 
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm

They certainly don't live off the land as much as you claim,
How do you figure? There are mountains everywhere and it's the coldest place on the planet, second to Atmorra.

nords have industry and are more civilized then the Germanic tribes were during the ages of the Roman empire,
And they're also tougher than the germanic tribes. Riften and Solitude are pretty much Imperial cities. Riften has less Nords than even Solitude.

also thats in skyrim, lore wise dawnstar had walls as did Karthwasten, winterhold, and several other cities.
Had being the key word.

There are nords who do live off the land i.e. actually live in the wilderness but they don't make up the stormcloak ranks, most of them were born within the walled cities or villages, most work they've done is farm work or lumber work which are both done in great amounts in cyrodiil.
You've clearly not been to any Stormcloak camps.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:48 am

Least favourite race would probably be erm.. Bosmer. I don't think I have ever played as one in an TES game. :blush:

I would have in Skyrim and was actually planning a Bosmer hunter before it came out but then I heard Animal Allegiance was a bit pants so that plan went out of the window.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:03 am

Anything with a tail. It's annoying to watch it flap around.
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Anything with a tail. It's annoying to watch it flap around.

I thought the same but having night eye as a lesser power at start of the game is too valuable to be picky about a tail.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:53 am

I absolutely cannot stand argonians, all have the same slimey voice.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:22 am

How do you figure? There are mountains everywhere and it's the coldest place on the planet, second to Atmorra.

Just because its cold and in a mountainous area doesn't mean they work on the land, Imperials have farming, wood chopping, hunting, mining and all the same jobs and lifestyles the nords have and some of those Imperial who were raised like that end up joining the legion and by this reasoning you are also stating that bretons, dunmer on the skyrim border, and imperials in the north are just as earthy and hearty, hell if mountains are your reasoning then the Dunmer are more hearty and earthy because Morrowind is a very mountainous country and has more mines, hunting parties and farming, and not a large amount of farms don't have slaves then Skyrim.

And they're also tougher than the germanic tribes. Riften and Solitude are pretty much Imperial cities. Riften has less Nords than even Solitude.

Opinion and no, no they really aren't.

Had being the key word.
Ya they had them because skyrim isn't exactly lore correct, I.E. Karthwasten use to be the capital of the reach.

You've clearly not been to any Stormcloak camps.

No I have and nothing even suggests they live off the land.

Just because its cold and in a mountainous area doesn't mean they live off the land.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:52 pm

Nord. I really, really dislike them.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:48 pm

Bretons -_- You can guess why.....
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:22 pm

argonians were fine up until skyrim. i've never really felt the need to be underwater for very long at all and always have plenty of cure disease potions on me. i see no real use for them any more :(
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:33 pm

argonians were fine up until skyrim. i've never really felt the need to be underwater for very long at all and always have plenty of cure disease potions on me. i see no real use for them any more :(

I've never understood why people pick their race of game mechanics. If you like the look of the Argonians and their lore, then be an Argonian. Only race with good buffs are Orsimer and Dunmer anyways. =/
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:09 pm

I was never much a fan of the argonians, I became less of a fan when they attacked my beloved Dunmer and supposedly destroyed (which we have no real way of knowing this is true) House Telvanni.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:26 pm

I was never much a fan of the argonians, I became less of a fan when they attacked my beloved Dunmer and supposedly destroyed (which we have no real way of knowing this is true) House Telvanni.

Spoiler
Brand-Shei in Riften will give you a quest to retrieve his father's journal, and in doing so I believe his states Brand-Shei is the last surviving member.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:30 pm

Spoiler
Brand-Shei in Riften will give you a quest to retrieve his father's journal, and in doing so I believe his states Brand-Shei is the last surviving member.

That was the Telvanni family, not the great house :P I've done this quest and I know everything about the Telvanni, if he returned to Telvannis none of the remaining Telvanni would care who he is since the old families never really mattered to them, Telvanni are about power and intelligence, not pathetic family ties.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:03 am

That was the Telvanni family, not the great house :tongue: I've done this quest and I know everything about the Telvanni, if he returned to Telvannis none of the remaining Telvanni would care who he is since the old families never really mattered to them, Telvanni are about power and intelligence, not pathetic family ties.

Haha, my bad. I'm a little too shabby on any lore not involving the Orsimer. =S
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:05 am

Might i just add that according to statistics from the poll, the least amount of people hate Bosmer :bunny:
But, even though i posted in the last thread, i may aswell stay on topic;
Nords. Cannot stand them.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:21 pm

It cool xD its a common misconception because the in-game journal didn't really explain that, there are still plenty of Telvanni around in Morrowind and one even left and is in the college of winterhold, but its yet to be known if the Great House is still around.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:12 pm

Quotes are royally screwing up for me, so I'm going to make what you said red.


Just because its cold and in a mountainous area doesn't mean they work on the land,

It actually means they don't. Snowy land is notoriously hard to farm, which suggests Nords have to hunt regularly for their meat, or well... die.

Imperials have farming, wood chopping, hunting, mining and all the same jobs and lifestyles the nords have

Sorry, where do Imperials have to worry about freezing to death at night? Giants raiding their homes or villages? Trolls? Volkihar and DRAGONS? The above quote is false.

and some of those Imperial who were raised like that end up joining the legion

And are rigorously retrained for very different work.

and by this reasoning you are also stating that bretons, dunmer on the skyrim border, and imperials in the north are just as earthy and hearty,

False.

hell if mountains are your reasoning then the Dunmer are more hearty and earthy because Morrowind is a very mountainous country

In volcanic lands? Absolutely. In snowy lands? It's their hell. Even then most aren't earthy or hearty. Dunmer are famous for mages who live loftily compared to the normal folk who are much heartier than they are.

and has more mines, hunting parties and farming, and not a large amount of farms don't have slaves then Skyrim.

Going to need some citations on that, Star-Fox.


Opinion

Uh, fact? They can survive fireballs and iceballs to the face and fight monsters and dragons. Are you trolling? Are you going to pretend to troll as an excuse for a terribly incorrect argument?

and no, no they really aren't.

Solitude has more Imperials than any other city and every wiki article on Elisif marks her as an Imperial mouth piece because she doesn't know how to lead and relies entirely on Tulius. Are you going to cite any examples for your argument or blindly deny mine?

Ya they had them because skyrim isn't exactly lore correct, I.E. Karthwasten use to be the capital of the reach.

I know Skyrim isn't lore correct. When Skyrim was being made, Bethesda played up how utterly broken the Empire was, that Titus Medes II was working with the Thalmor to ban Talos worship to further legitimize his claim and erase the Septim's history as god-chosen Emperors. But sadly none of this is mentioned in game.

No I have and nothing even suggests they live off the land.

Uhhh... They're in camps far from cities in tents. If you're suggesting Nords can't hunt, you're utterly incorrect and I won't continue to argue with someone so hard headed that they utterly ignore one of the biggest themes of Skyrim and its people. And to be so utterly blind to the Nord culture - as well as the cultures Nords were based on - speaks leagues of your powers of observation and memory committal.

Just because its cold and in a mountainous area doesn't mean they live off the land.

As opposed to... what? How do you think the Nords survive, exactly?
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:06 pm

nords because they are just beligerantly racist and there is no just cause besides it's my homland whhaaaa whaaa
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:57 am

It cool xD its a common misconception because the in-game journal didn't really explain that, there are still plenty of Telvanni around in Morrowind and one even left and is in the college of winterhold, but its yet to be known if the Great House is still around.

Ah, okay! I really need to start looking into other races' culture, I've mastered the Orsimer.......not that there's a ton to master....... -_-
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:54 am

Quotes are royally screwing up for me, so I'm going to make what you said red.


It actually means they don't. Snowy land is notoriously hard to farm, which suggests Nords have to hunt regularly for their meat, or well... die.

There are still times of drought and hunting is still done in large moderation in cyrodiil.

Sorry, where do Imperials have to worry about freezing to death at night? Giants raiding their homes or villages? Trolls? Volkihar and DRAGONS? The above quote is false.
There are trolls in cyrodiil, they have bandits, ogres, goblins, more vampires since the Volkihar are pretty much dying out, only thing you really have is giants and dragons and most giants don't raid villages or cities without a reason too, they are pretty docile if left alone.

And are rigorously retrained for very different work.
So? the hunters still know how to use a bow excellently, the farmers can swing swords and axes because they had to defend against bandits, goblins, ogres and various other things. They because they joined the legion doesn't mean they forgot the skills they had before.

False.
No not really, northern cyrodiil has the same snowy climate as skyrim, high rock has a lot of snowy areas on the northern shores and the Redorans have farms and the Velothi mountains they dwell near are exactly like skyrim's.

In volcanic lands? Absolutely. In snowy lands? It's their hell. Even then most aren't earthy or hearty. Dunmer are famous for mages who live loftily compared to the normal folk who are much heartier than they are.
Actually the Dunmer are fine with snow, just look at the Redorans.

Going to need some citations on that, Star-Fox.

Well it shouldn't be hard to find since a majority of Morrowind's trading was exporting pottery, ebony, glass, gems, and various other minerals.

Uh, fact? They can survive fireballs and iceballs to the face and fight monsters and dragons. Are you trolling? Are you going to pretend to troll as an excuse for a terribly incorrect argument?

That doesn't mean anything, they managed to take on the roman legions because they didn't have several of the luxuries the stromcloaks had and had to train extra hard, and last I checked thats not a big feat for any soldier of Tamriel.

Solitude has more Imperials than any other city and every wiki article on Elisif marks her as an Imperial mouth piece because she doesn't know how to lead and relies entirely on Tulius. Are you going to cite any examples for your argument or blindly deny mine?

And Ulfric does? His idea of leading is pure tyranny. Hell after the stormcloak side he admits that the only reason the Jarls better listen to him is because his armies populate the cities. Also you talk a lot about citation yet you never actually show any.

I know Skyrim isn't lore correct. When Skyrim was being made, Bethesda played up how utterly broken the Empire was, that Titus Medes II was working with the Thalmor to ban Talos worship to further legitimize his claim and erase the Septim's history as god-chosen Emperors. But sadly none of this is mentioned in game.

Ah..no thats not why he banned Talos worship, he banned it because he really didn't have a choice and wanted to have time to rebuild and then counter attack the Dominion, the Talos ban isn't permanent and whoever told you it was is an idiot.

Uhhh... They're in camps far from cities in tents. If you're suggesting Nords can't hunt, you're utterly incorrect and I won't continue to argue with someone so hard headed that they utterly ignore one of the biggest themes of Skyrim and its people. And to be so utterly blind to the Nord culture - as well as the cultures Nords were based on - speaks leagues of your powers of observation and memory committal.

I didn't say they couldn't hunt, I said they aren't exactly living off the land. They get supplies from Stormcloak controlled areas and this has even been mentioned.
As opposed to... what? How do you think the Nords survive, exactly?

They survive like everyone else, farming, hunting and having various industries.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:20 pm

Bretons: I don't hate them, but to me they are a pointless race. I know they are a half Human/Elf race, but to me they are just another Human race. It's because they look way too Human. It would be different if they looked like their Elf half by having lets say pointy ears. But they don't. They look just like an Imperial. So that's way I find them pointless.
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Bretons: I don't hate them, but to me they are a pointless race. I know they are a half Human/Elf race, but to me they are just another Human race. It's because they look way too Human. It would be different if they looked like their Elf half by having lets say pointy ears. But they don't. They look just like an Imperial. So that's way I find them pointless.

Plus they keep ruining the Orcs.... -__-
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Ah..no thats not why he banned Talos worship, he banned it because he really didn't have a choice and wanted to have time to rebuild and then counter attack the Dominion, the Talos ban isn't permanent and whoever told you it was is an idiot.

Not only that they only started to crack down on it because of Ulfric making a fuss about it. Before that many citizens had their own little shrine at least according to the Riverwood Blacksmith.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:17 pm

Plus they keep ruining the Orcs.... -__-
How?
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