Sorry...

(take lesson boys, that's the proper way to handle a situation with a woman, apologize as soon as possible )

That is true. There are always cases of girls taking the guy's side, and a guy taking another guy's side. Generally though, any deviance is probably due to the above reasons.

When in doubt, be cynical.

You're not the only one, not by far. It's just that guys wanting to get laid tend to be common as flies.

You're not alone .

And I'd like to believe I have magic powers, but the world insists on repeatedly disappointing me.

I said this the other day in another thread because I stumbled on it recently.

There are only TWO WAYS to deal with females...
Neither works.

that sounds like they're going by an average not per job, which can make all the difference they need for their claim

There are very few cases where there is a legitimate reason to stab someone in the back. Unless the stabbing was a self-defense act taken during the middle of a violent altercation (which it wasn't, the poor guy was sleeping), there is no justification for murder. This woman is a murderer, there is nothing in the world that can justify her actions, and she deserves to rot in prison for her crime.

If she was in some sort of abusive relationship (and I see no reason to believe she was), murder is not the solution. The solution is to get help from the police and take shelter away from the abuser.

God that brings back memories. My older sister would always "pick" on me. She'd punch me, slap me, yell directly into my ear (hated this), push me, all that jazz.
But once I was big enough to do something, I couldn't.
She'd beat my head in the wall (literally, once so hard my head dented the wall), so I'd push her away and sit on her. She'd then scream at the top of her lungs and my parents/advlt would come in.

Guess what happened? I told them the truth, and she said I "punched her in the stomach and spit in her mouth". Guess who my parents always thought was right?

She'd be fake crying, and I'd get a yelling at because "no matter what, you can't hit a girl" (actual words spoken to me)

SO glad she grew out of that phase. We're on good terms now.


Ain't sibling love great?

Saddly I've seen this episode many, many, many-many times before on court shows, talk shows and Cops, some women who are in abusive relationships---usually stay in them, cause what's their excuses "But I love him" "Better then he hits me then our children" and so-on and so-on. I sorry to say this but women who are in these relationships who don't seek help or get out---I have no pity for 'em.

They're usually immature, stupid, and/or masochistic.

There's not much reason for a healthy normal girl to stay in a relationship like that,
unless she just really needs to grow up.

I've seen women like that...sporting a black eye and a hickey on their neck. Not good.

Funny, I see posts like this as, well sort of a wasted post. Because if you feel there is a problem with a thread, then report it. If you feel the thread is interesting, then contribute to it with an on-topic post. Not an off-topic one.

Anyway, as long as people are being civil (and not making personal attacks if things get a bit touchy) about the whole discussion of gender stuff, random social stereo-typing and so on and so forth, there isn't a problem.

Regarding the opening post... and the "wonder what he did to deserve it" - those types of comments are, 99% of the time just the random [censored] people say because, well, we always say something. Most people will actually wait and see what kind of information comes out before making any real judgment call.


You know... men also stay in abusive relationships for the same reason women do. Lack of self-esteem, economic, emotional, lack of spine, fear of the unknown and myriad of other reason. I know a few - may not be physical, but... yeah. That knife cuts both way, but guys talk about it less/admit to it less etc.

I have pretty high standards when it comes to personality and most girls have medium standards when it comes to looks, unfortunately I can only meet the low standards so I don't really pay getting laid much heed, at least I don't actively seek it out.

As for the topic itself I have met many such cases of double standards and there is always a small amount of underlying sixism that goes on for both genders, but I myself try not to fall into that pit in any manner and even then you might recall that I just stereotyped "most girls" in the line above this one. But that stereotype is bred from personal perceptions of things I can not view such as another person's psyche which makes it invalid as I have no proof to back up my claims.

I think in the end we are all the same but as we grow up our current version of society shapes our thoughts to have certain gender perceptions such as "women are kind and gentle but you don't want to meet another man in a dark alley" or "boys say mean things about each other and they don't mean it, girls say nice things about each other but they don't really mean it either", and subconsciously we buy into those a little bit in our daily lives and for some they buy into it more than others.

The way I view the story itself I'd say that she most certainly is in the wrong, and if he did something to provoke her to do this then he is also in the wrong. People aren't always on the other side of each other where one side is "right" and the other is "wrong", sometimes they are both right, and sometimes they are both wrong. All I know however is that stabbing a sleeping person in the back as the person is sleeping is wrong.

Yeah, truth is, the actors in a relationship aren't rational in their behavior, and we shouldn't condemn the female OR male victims of abuse for failing to leave and staying in an abusive relationship. But I draw the line at murder. Murdering a fellow human is never the solution to a problem (well, except for the problem of someone trying to murder you) and I've got no sympathy for abuse victims that commit that vile act.

It tends to be more emotional abuse coming from girls, but there are plenty of women who know how to get physical. I think I saw a video a while back of a woman hitting her husband in the groin. He just stood there and took it. (Yeowch...)

Emotional abuse is horrible. A lot of the time the woman means to do it. I know girls that will toy with your mind just to get a reaction out of you.

[censored]es be evil.

Edit: [censored] as in mean, heartless women. No offense to the female gender, just those certain few who are horrible people.

I've seen it too, in real life, and it's not as simple as you think. Although the person I know was suffering psychological abuse, the abuser wouldn't let up even if she tried to break it off.

It's a constant cycle of abuse and deceptive love, and I guess their mentality is that they will eventually break that cycle. It's a terrible way to live, but the scum who treat people that way are the ones to blame.

I just meant that I see this thread getting out of hand, and if you read I did contribute to this thread.

I'm part of the Males for Equal Rights movement. I'm a Maleist.

True.

If you have someone that beats you constantly, their likely not of sound mind.
If they go to jail, what then? Sure they'll be gone for a few years, but what then. Most likely, they won't be to happy you put them in jail.

(kind of guessing here, I'm no specialist)

But yeah most likely when a woman calls the police and says that her husband punched her, the police will more than likely arrest the guy. If it's the other way around then the cops will not arrest the woman. I've seen this happen twice to my father. My stepmom called the cops 2 times in one year and said she was being beaten by my dad, when she wasn't at all. The cops believed her too.

(not trying to be racist here, just observing)
Its like having a college scholarship for back people. Its accepted and praised.
Yet how much controversy would there be if you made a scholarship only for white people.

That wasn't to racist sounding was it?



Don't get my started. My friend's dad was on parole for somethings. His mom (dad's ex-wife) would visit every now and then (they were on decent terms). His girlfriend however, didn't like him talking to his ex-wife and called the cops, saying that he beat and [censored] her. Initially the father was arrested, they didn't even ask for his side of the story and believed everything the girlfriend said. After a medical exam (which she postponed because of "emergencies"), he was released a few weeks later.

Not really no it's not racist sounding. There are a few scholarships for people of Italian descent. There are also some for people of Irish, French, Scottish etc. There are more scholarships for blacks though and they are advertised more.

Sadly that is how the world works. Like that woman that drowned her five kids and everyone jumps to defend her "oh well she had postpartum depression so what she did was totally ok" I think it was the view or something that said that.

lol