Alright id like to think I stay pretty updated with everything Fallout, especially being on NMA.

But one thing I must have missed is the confirmation of any kind of .45 in the the game and or the .45 ammo itself. Again I must have just totally missed this I guess and have been searching & reading and have yet to find anything but speculation. Ive heard a few people say .45's are confirmed along with .45 ammo & I just want some solid confirmation on that . . .

So a LINK with proof would be fantastic.

Also would be nice if Sannes Vallen also known as Good ol Boy on my old Tommy Gun thread that said this . . .

The esteemed Mr. J. E. Sawyer himself said there would be a Thompson, so this post is now invalidated.

Would kindly prove that too

Thank you for your :shakehead: time

I'd be happy with the 10mm replacing it. 10mm auto is more powerful and accurate than the .45 ACP. I'd be really happy to have Tommy Gun firing 10mm. BTW, sorry for hijacking your Tommy Gun thread. I'm afraid it died of natural causes after about 40 or so posts.

The 9mm pistol looks close to a m1911. Google it. It is a 9mm though, and I thought I saw a .45 somewhere. Can't confirm. Try the wiki yet?

Has everyone lost there minds? 10mm Tommy gun's?

There is no gun on wiki that takes .45 ammo I don't care what it looks like . . .

(Gigantic sigh..). I don't think so. Just mentioning what I knew. I doubt that IF the Tommy is included, it would be chambered in 10mm. It will be in a higher caliber, if not in the .45. Just stop worrying. The games not out yet, and we have enough worries and issues with it on these boards to fill a Vault.

Damn, I thought that the Tommy gun got confirmed for a second there. That would sadly make my week if the Tommy Gun got confirmed. Oh, and chambering it 10mm would make just as much sense as having Lincoln's Repeater firing a cartridge that began production in 1955. Would you rather have no Tommy Gun at all?

Worrying?

No this is a thread that just wants all the said amount of people that have said m1911's & .45 ammo has been confirmed to prove it. This is not a speculation thread, its a look who is full of :shakehead: & who isn't by showing some proof.

Honestly I wish I wasn't trying to find out if its confirmed or not because the less I know at this point about the game the better it will be for me. The fact is, the more you post stuff like this & view forums and updates on a game your waiting for the worse the experience will be 8/10 times after you have collected a reasonable amount of information. All a forum to me is information, reading other people's opinions can be dangerous as it sometimes won't help your hype for a game.

To be technical, I don't see where Mr.Sawyer confirmed anything. He teased us saying he wouldnt say if it is or is not. I have not seen him say 'Yes, there is one in game' or similiar, so until other wise, or a legitimate screenshot, I don't see any real confirmation yet. Just sayin

Precisely, but somehow said amount of people on this forum & on NMA have confirmed the .45 but without any kind of proof . .

Also the trailer everyone thinks they saw a 1911 in was mistaken because it was the 9mm pistol that you can see on Wiki. There is no video footage hosted on the internet of the time im posting this of any kind of .45 pistol or any weapon that takes .45 ammo in the game period and that is a fact.

Oh I haven't even started yet. :disguise:

The pistol in the game looks to be modeled after the Browning Hi-Power, which does have a slight resemblance to an M1911 (which was designed by John Browning too).

Well some people are mistaken. There is a rifle that chambers a .44 round but not a .45. Is that what you were thinking of? Btw here's the link


http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Trail_carbine

Ah, thank you. Slipped my mind. :tops:

And spank, you need to chill. We told you what we know. We gave you comparisons and the like. You're spazzing out, and it's unneeded. I told you all I know. I'm not speculating, I laid out the similar guns that have been mentioned. So, relax a bit.

People in Obisidian play too much Red Dead Redemption.
Browning guns, cowboys, desert etc.
Though I would really like the good old 1911, as it's my favourite handgun of all

if you watch videos or look at pictures they can tell you a lot.....i saw a .44 magnum on the cover and heard someone fire a bullet on the g4tv vid so i know...... but where did J.E. Sawyer confirm this Thompson

well i cant see them not including it, even if its just a one of a kind thompson like lincolns repeater

what!?

10mm Auto Federal 180-grain Hydra-Shok JHP, muzzle velocity of 1030 fps (5" barrel, 1 in 16 twist), at 25 yards 400'# energy and Taylor Knock Out index of 10.3
.45ACP Federal 230-grain Hydra-Shok JHP, Mv of 900 fps (5" barrel, 1 in 16 twist), at 25 yards 395'# energy and TKO of 13.1

Give me the .45 any day.

PS. There is no .45 ammo or weapon chambered for it anywhere to be found in the game. Yet.

Err. Sure, friend

I will explain if anyone is truely interested. Otherwise it's a lot of typing for little benefit.

Not to nerd out too much here, but it does need to be stated that you're comparing 180 gr 10mm Auto against 230 gr .45 ACP. Certainly you know that 10mm Auto can be loaded extremely hot and that its smaller diameter means its more practical to double-stack it and still retain a relatively slim grip design (e.g. the Glock 20).

I will now abandon this thread for PS3 playing. *flies away with Rad Child*

............ :mellow: .........*mind explodes*

I don't know a thing about guns so that stuff just kinda wisks past me

(responding to Elvis, who has left the building)
I compared common commercial loadings that you would "most likely" find in use. I (and most anyone I know) don't shoot 185 or lower weighted bullets in .45ACP, and you can't get commercial loads in 10mm Auto higher than 200 grain that I am aware of. (Ammo and Ballistics, Fourth Edition)

The 10mm is the higher velocity round and the .45 is the larger diameter round. It depends on which school of thought you belong to (and they fight like Bethesda and Black Isle fans) as to which is "better". That's why I like Taylor Knock Out index. It is a blend of the terminal energy equations from both schools.

And as I've said before, .45ACP. Why shoot twice? I don't need the bigger mag.

PS (highest TKO I could find for factory listed ammo (sorry, no +P listed) was 12.7 for 180gr Bonded Core SP. Highest for .45ACP was 13.8 for a number of various 230gr loads)

I don't know if this has been said yet, but a 10 mm is equal to a .40. That means 10 mm is four-tenths of an inch. While a .45 is forty-five-hundredths (or four-and-a-half-tenths, if such a number existed) of an inch. The forty five has superior stopping power, as well as being a larger bullet. 10 mm are more commonly fired with higher accuracy, and at greater speeds. The Glock model 23 In real life, fires a .40 (10 mm), and is a very reliable, accurate gun. The 1911 fires forty-fives, which is a gun that can be found on any battle field since it's invention, and will knock it's target out cold.

Ugh. Yeah. That's what I said. In all gobbledygook, but, yeah. That.