by the way ... didn't that crater they aimed for had some wired "geometric" features they wanted to check out!!!! I can't remember the name though..

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5962/taxdollarsmemegenerator.png

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3965/mohawkguy.jpg

(I'm just being humorous, this is quite an achievement)

they had it in mass effect (well fiction is where it all starts anyways), the basic idea is that you keep two particles in a state of quantum entanglement (forgot the exact science theory and how they do it), and no matter how far you separate them, they are always at the "same place" as in they are not affected by distance and all the other nasty hurdles that get in the way is if I have one here and you got the other one in a galaxy 100000 trillion light years away we can still send info as quantum bits as though we are in the same room, this is done by spinning or doing stuff to the particle and then translating the stuff into other stuff XD sorry I'm not that good with scientific lengo

Incredible, no horizontal velocity at touchdown, pictures within a minute or two...incredible!

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mars/images/first_images_mars.html

first images in

this is so exciting

don't tell me i didn't warn you when i said that this was going to kill ALL of our cats.

Ah, I see.. I never played Mass Effect so I wouldn't have known. Interesting sounding though, you made enough sense I'll do some more research into it later.


Also, thanks for the site link.

Well, that's what UDP is for! Or https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6214.

Mars, in theory, could be like Earth if we changed two things about the planet

1. Give it an electromagnetic field, preventing the killer radiation of solar winds.

2. Alter the atmosphere to have less CO2 and an increase in temperature.

But that wouldn't be very good science huh? If we just said [censored] it and forgot about what barren Mars could teach us and just enjoy our new Earth!

its inevitable....

first we live in habitats then we "pollute" the atmosphere with oxygen and nitrogen and other crap (cause lets face it we have experience in that now XD) it can take all the time it needs we ain't in a hurry, we just keep moving to Mars as we terraform....

ALSO Mars is close to the asteroid belt (will astronomically close) so I expect massive mining operations in the near future

Well, first it'd be better if we applied #2 to our own planet, and lower instead of increase temperature. Secondly, the magnetic field thing would be a bit hard.

Some people theorize that it would be possible with an artificial moon

Just find a big-ass, round asteroid and stick it where we need it?

bow chicka wow-wow

Question is, how would we make it stay?

actually its just a matter of cost

nothing is impossible, its just some things are harder to do....

maybe a cold plasma shield will work far better, http://orbitalvector.com/Defenses/Plasma%20Shields/cold%20plasma%20trap.jpg yah its gonna happen deal with it

Yeah, we just need to focus on those things.


That's not a bad start either, we'd just need to figure out how to make it big enough for a planet.

Also, why does Nasa never do anything with Venus?

Technological progression always makes things bigger or smaller, depending of the desired outcome of course.

I think it might be a combination of potential interests and the fact that Venus's atmosphere would [censored] up our rovers hard core. Or something.

bah too hostile to bother now, Mars is actually a nice place, if you can get over the low temperatures and solar radiation, but those are not that hard to combat, unlike venus where even space probes only last a few hours.

Venus is too dangerous.. it's too close to the sun, and has an atmosphere that makes it a hellhole. Wouldn't be worth it in the end.


I suppose we would just need a successful way to implement it then.

oh it can be a huge "sheet" structure in space facing the sun it does not have to be a bubble thing that way it will need less energy and it will be cheaper to make, since you only need to make enough "structure" to keep the field in place and the field generator can be as massive as you want cause its in space.

Everything we could possibly do on Venus would be Ten times easier to accomplish on Mars. Its just too harsh.

besides

http://search.babylon.com/imageres.php?iu=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/2005-1103mars-full.jpg/220px-2005-1103mars-full.jpg&ir=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars&ig=http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBQ6FtNpya-aelVO_nkzSHUKNatE6PtErZPxjdDsPemZEFa5qUuOObFGw&h=220&w=220&q=mars&babsrc=http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1401664-mars-rover-curiosity-landing-tonight/KW_ss

yah those are clouds, mars looks cool

http://socialmediaseo.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/venus.jpg

Venus just looks lame.

Doesn't sound too bad.. maybe we could also harvest energy with something like that.

Venus's is all clouds, that sheet-like surface is a mass of gas, there are so many clouds that very early astronomers thought the planet was a huge jungle filled with exotic life and thats why the outer atmosphere was nothing but gas, because of what we knew about our planet...

We have come a long way eh? Now we know Venus is a depressing, volcanic wasteland that could only support gas-svcking microcrobes.