Mass Effect thread #67

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:21 pm

Any changes to the ending I would suspect will affect the ending cinematics and Normandy/squad related things, not so much Shepard specific things. I don't think the ending choices will change. So I'm not surprised.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-free-dlc-to-expand-ending-this-summer/

“more closure with even more context and clarity,” and deliver an ending that “will feel more personalized for each player”
Hopefully that means we get some information about the future of different people/civilizations in the galaxy depending on the choices we made. Like the Krogans, the quarians, etc.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:37 am

Any changes to the ending I would suspect will affect the ending cinematics and Normandy/squad related things, not so much Shepard specific things. I don't think the ending choices will change. So I'm not surprised.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-free-dlc-to-expand-ending-this-summer/


Hopefully that means we get some information about the future of different people/civilizations in the galaxy depending on the choices we made. Like the Krogans, the quarians, etc.
I'll take this as a victory. I'm unsure of the significance of it until I see the new ending. It is a minor victory at the very least. Unsure if I can rest, it might still be a pile of crap. Now to see if they can turn that terrible ending around.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:20 am

I'll take this as a victory. I'm unsure of the significance of it until I see the new ending. It is a minor victory at the very least. Unsure if I can rest, it might still be a pile of crap. Now to see if they can turn that terrible ending around.
The hardest part was getting them to do anything at all.

People have eviscerated the ending in every way possible. They know exactly what they screwed up, and I highly doubt they will take a second shot and screw up just as badly.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:33 am

The hardest part was getting them to do anything at all.

People have eviscerated the ending in every way possible. They know exactly what they screwed up, and I highly doubt they will take a second shot and screw up just as badly.
The ending was so bad, not sure if it is salvageable. On the other hand have seen re-edits of movies transform them into amazing things. So we'll have to see how this works out. Could go either way. I feel like Mordin Solus right now. Held the line, even against the many naysayers. Good to have had some minor effect.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:14 am

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(My personal theory is that the Krogan take over...)

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Well, between the Krogan rioting ("we just got the plague cured, and now we're stuck on the other side of the galaxy from the females!") and the Quarians either rioting or committing mass suicide ("we finally got our homeworld back, our goal for the last 200 years, and we're stuck on the other side of the galaxy!"), I'd suspect it won't be very happy in the Sol system.


re: sudden onset glowy circuitry syndrome...... you know, I can certainly see a whole bunch of religious/cultural upheaval coming from that. Various groups reacting poorly, misinterpreting, panicking. And yeah, no Mass Relays. Any way to spread the news? Do the long-range communicators they use still work?

(this is even ignoring my personal feeling that the "whoops, Glowing Skin Texture Magic!?" is a really shallow and simplistic result for "synthesize all sentience into hybrid organic/synthetic life." My personal feeling, based on a good bit of the sci-fi I've been exposed to over the years is that everyone would get disintegrated and new life-forms created. Which is why I didn't pick it - galaxy-wide genocide didn't seem like a valid choice.)
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:48 pm

I have to admit the fangirl in me is a bit disappointed there's no chance of
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reunion with your LI if you survived but what you gonna do...

I've got a sneaking suspicion they'll establish a relationship between Shep's LI and another squad member JUST TO PISS US OFF. :lol: ie. Look at Kaidan and Liara's cute blue babies and how easily they got over your death/disappearance...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:49 am

People are actually optimistic about the Extended Cut... I suppose it's some sort of a victory that BW admits they screwed up but I remain extremely skeptical about this.

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At the very mininum I want my LI back on Earth and confirmation that Shep survives if Destruction ending is picked and war assets +5,000. The Protheans were close to unlocking Mass Relay technology so I suppose we could expect modern Council races to do so as well.


Oh and please don't kill off everyone in the Citadel. It renders the whole station pointless in the game. Also, why would a few gun toting merchants (Citadel Defense Force) affect the ending (some +50 points total) if they die well before the final battle starts?


I have to admit the fangirl in me is a bit disappointed there's no chance of
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reunion with your LI if you survived but what you gonna do...

I've got a sneaking suspicion they'll establish a relationship between Shep's LI and another squad member JUST TO PISS US OFF. :lol: ie. Look at Kaidan and Liara's cute blue babies and how easily they got over your death/disappearance...
Count me as a fangirl then as well.
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I already promised marriage and a truckload of blue children to Liara, I intend to see that happen. :(
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:18 pm

I wouldn't mind if they cut out the bit of the cinematic where

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all the relays are destroyed, because the consequences for that are insane and disrupt most of your choices. Now the female krogan can have children (or not), but most of the male ones are stuck at Sol, including the leader(s). The Quarians can rebuild their home, but most of them are stuck at Sol as well. Earth is saved (or not) but considering all the krogans, turians, quarians and everything else that's stuck at Sol, slowly running out of food supplies, I don't see that ending well either. The galaxy is saved from the reapers, but billions will still die due to being completely isolated from the rest of the galaxy.

How do you create an ending cinematic based on player choices from that basis?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:29 am

I have to admit the fangirl in me is a bit disappointed there's no chance of
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reunion with your LI if you survived but what you gonna do...

I've got a sneaking suspicion they'll establish a relationship between Shep's LI and another squad member JUST TO PISS US OFF. :lol: ie. Look at Kaidan and Liara's cute blue babies and how easily they got over your death/disappearance...

Yeah, I'm a svcker for a happy ending
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and really want to imagine that Shep and Liara retired to some beachfront Shadow Broker base to raise a bunch of cute blue badass commandos :tongue: .... not that I necessarily expected a true "happy ending" with the way things were going. Too much "we'll have a drink after" foreshadowing. Still wasn't expecting such a bleak "you lose". :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:20 am

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At the very mininum I want my LI back on Earth and confirmation that Shep survives if Destruction ending is picked and war assets +5,000.

While I remain ever optimistic, without Hale/Meer doing any voice acting I can't see this happening... :(

Edit: Article is being edited to reflect the fact that the DLC will be free of charge...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:28 am

While I remain ever optimistic, without Hale/Meer doing any voice acting I can't see this happening... :(
Right, but if we go by their development cycle. They were most likely thinking out the DLC at the concept phase of development. It's very likely they had a list of actors to approach, but didn't for obvious reasons. They didn't want anymore leaks. I mean they are creating new cinematics for it and actually "extending" the ending. So I think before the DLC is out we'll get word that Meer/Hale is back. I think the only person we know for sure that is coming in for the DLC is Lance Henriksen. He hinted there was more to come. Then again this could easily be taken to mean they aren't approaching them if all the voice actors needed have been approached. It's likely they would use some cut lines or alternate voice dialogue to create the new content for the Shepards.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:41 am

I wouldn't mind if they cut out the bit of the cinematic where

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all the relays are destroyed, because the consequences for that are insane and disrupt most of your choices. Now the female krogan can have children (or not), but most of the male ones are stuck at Sol, including the leader(s). The Quarians can rebuild their home, but most of them are stuck at Sol as well. Earth is saved (or not) but considering all the krogans, turians, quarians and everything else that's stuck at Sol, slowly running out of food supplies, I don't see that ending well either. The galaxy is saved from the reapers, but billions will still die due to being completely isolated from the rest of the galaxy.

How do you create an ending cinematic based on player choices from that basis?

In my more bigger picture focused view...

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blowing up the Citadel and Mass Relays is the best thing to happen in the ending. In ME1 Sovereign said that every cycle uses the them and thus develops in the way they want to, so blowing them up along with the Reapers frees the the galactic civilizations to determine their own future for once.

And i'm still saying that the races are a pretty smart bunch, they'll figure out the Mass Relay technology out sooner or later ;)
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:36 am

In my more bigger picture focused view...

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blowing up the Citadel and Mass Relays is the best thing to happen in the ending. In ME1 Sovereign said that every cycle uses the them and thus develops in the way they want to, so blowing them up along with the Reapers frees the the galactic civilizations to determine their own future for once.

And i'm still saying that the races are a pretty smart bunch, they'll figure out the Mass Relay technology out sooner or later :wink:
True, they will probably recover in the long run and maybe be better off too but how this makes basically all your choices meaningless is what bothers me the most.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:07 am

While I remain ever optimistic, without Hale/Meer doing any voice acting I can't see this happening... :(

Edit: Article is being edited to reflect the fact that the DLC will be free of charge...
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How come? All you need is that Normandy lands on Earth, not some obscure planet. Also, no more LI teleporting to Normandy.
With Destruction ending and 5000 assets Shepard survives and wakes up in London (most likely that is). If Normandy would crash on Earth (Crucible is in space, so Joker could be running away from it to land on Earth, not to reach Sol relay). Alternatively, LI is not picked for last mission so she will be in a support role, and thus survive. Therefore both Shep and LI are alive and on Earth.

We just need that she won't teleport to the Normandy
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:58 am

It just comes across as polishing a turd... making that artistic integrity shine.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 am

Just noticed something.

http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=662095

Coming this summer, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will be available for download on the Xbox 360? videogame and entertainment system, PlayStation?3 computer entertainment system and PC for no extra charge*.

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*OFFER EXPIRES APRIL 12, 2014
Kinda strange that they're limiting this offer until 2014. After that, what? Does it disappear? Become paid DLC?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:41 am

Just noticed something.

http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=662095


Kinda strange that they're limiting this offer until 2014. After that, what? Does it disappear? Become paid DLC?

Wouldn't be surprised if it were either to be paid for or support for ME3 were dropped.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:09 am

Well the reason I'm saying UNSC is:
1. Master Chief.
2. Kinetc barriers will only work against projectiles, not energy weapons.
Most covenant weaponary and the Spartan laser will negate them.
3. The AI on UNSC ships is much superior to the VI on Alliance ships.
4. A UNSC cruiser is the same size as a dreadnought, with their frigates being around the same size as a cruiser. Plus UNSC ships can enter an atmosphere freely.
5. How well could an alliance soldier really stand up to a scorpians main cannon?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:39 am

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut/

The above article has pretty much said that nothing will change about the ending - it's just going to be clarified.
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Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
  • No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.
I don't get the impression things will change, just be built upon? And to that end I doubt
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the Normandy will end up crashing on Earth...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:37 am

Well the reason I'm saying UNSC is:
1. Master Chief.
2. Kinetc barriers will only work against projectiles, not energy weapons.
Most covenant weaponary and the Spartan laser will negate them.
3. The AI on UNSC ships is much superior to the VI on Alliance ships.
4. A UNSC cruiser is the same size as a dreadnought, with their frigates being around the same size as a cruiser. Plus UNSC ships can enter an atmosphere freely.
5. How well could an alliance soldier really stand up to a scorpians main cannon?
1. Not a valid argument. As soon as you bust out the hero of a story the other side is going to do that. Like nuclear weapons. You could have a space chimpanzee on your side and if he was designated hero he'll win against anything. So not a valid argument.
2. Almost all of the weapons in Halo have shown they behave as projectiles. Lasers would be the exception in this case, they would likely be the only weapon of any use. Even the plasma rounds fire and act like fancy bullets.
3. This isn't valid. We have no idea of the extent of a VI programming. Cortana is an exception to the rule. She is filed under a hero and will not be used. Again I could just bust out Edi.
4. Size doesn't matter when your main gun can rip through anything they have. It's like saying look how big that castle is, and then one tank shot rips the walls to hell. Size doesn't = power. They do have the advantage of entering the atmosphere, but any Alliance frigates/cruisers capable of following them in have guns capable of destroying them.
5. I would imagine just fine. Or possibly not at all. Shields are designed to protect all of their force stopping a few tiny precise projectiles. Something as wide and explosive as a tank round might simply go around any areas protected. If they were expecting tanks they would bring in a Mako. That thing has been shown capable of damaging frigates. The gun on that thing is probably insanely powerful compared to any tank the Halo universe could field. I know from a few references there are typical tank designs in the ME universe, but we never see them. My bet is on the Alliance on this one.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:03 am

Kinda strange that they're limiting this offer until 2014. After that, what? Does it disappear? Become paid DLC?

It will become paid, I'd assume. But there will probably be a game of the year edition by then. Not to mention new consoles. They can also extend the offer any time between now and then, so I don't think it means very much.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:44 pm

It'll probably like the limited DLC for space marine, you had a month to redeem it, even though you paid for it with the game, i hadnt even installed it, and only looked a few weeks ago to find out it expired in 2011. More than likely it'll either go to an ultimate edition, or they will cease support for it, especially since they will want to go ahead with whatever projects they have planned for the franchise. Because again rumour was there was supposed to be a mass effect ultimate edition with all dlcs, again a rumour.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:47 pm

The Extended Cut seems to point to IT... if it is I will be so happy :D
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:40 am

Well, I've said from the beginning that I'd be happy even with a text epilogue as long as it manages to salvage the ending. Hopefully this DLC does exactly that.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:05 pm

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut/

LMAO
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