ES Online, Summed up Reactions from Player-Base. : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:43 pm

My impression of the game is same o same o. Same well used MMO formula. The only real connnection to Elder Scrolls is the lore. Give it different lore and you have one of a dozen games. It also looks alot like DAOC two complete with three zones too. DAOC was fun but DAOC is NOT Elder Scrolls

Also where is the new ideas? This is just recycled stuff from other games. Bethesda is a great gaming company and more than once the head of it has said, "I DONT WANT TO DO A MMO UNLESS I COULD DO IT RIGHT?"

Seriously you think you did it right? If it fails you will lose millions Bethesda.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:14 pm

Well TES Online actually uses many of GW2's combat system's features. If anything its more GW2 then it is WoW

It better be b2p then and not subscription based.

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:24 pm

Well, this AWESOME bread company known for their ab-so-lute-ly DELICIOUS types of fancy bread has come to you, and you're like, "SWEET, BREAD!". But they offer you a sample from their new cheese line.

I like this anology, and it works, hehe. Though perhaps we are expecting cheese-bread in this situation to be entirely accurate. An MMO has certain elements to be expected of it (has to be cheese based) but we would like something with more substance for it to be on which is different (the bread, but will settle for a cracker even

).

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:22 pm

See how great all those other MMO's went with "Like WoW Combat System" turned out. ??? Look at them now, they're under 6 feet of dirt.

Call me a pessimist, but its being realistic.

No actually most of them are doing fine.

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:00 pm

Did you know that 67% of statistics are made up on the spot?

I'd love if they would sticky a poll about this everywhere on the forums.

Do you like the idea of TES:O

Yes
No
Undecided

Would love to see the results

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:04 am

It better be b2p then and not subscription based.

That has no bearing on GW2's combat structure, but on its micro-transactions and very segmented world.

From the article, TESO doesn't seem as segmented/phased/sharded as GW2 -> and rather fully open world (one of the only good features about this game so far)..

Taking that into consideration, I doubt it will be B2P like GW2.

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:05 am

I think a lot of this percentage is because these forums are not official. They are tacked on to the other TES forums and we have a dispraportionate amount of TES lovers, and not a lot of MMO lovers here. I think when the game gets more press and they open the official site and forums the mood will change dramatically.

They made a TES mmo to attract the TES lovers....

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:19 pm

They made a TES mmo to attract the TES lovers....

Well no, and that's the problem, they are trying to target TES vets AND MMO vets. You cannot do that without disseminating the gameplay as we have seen they've had to do. They are relying on name recognition and lore to bring in the TES fans and gameplay and mechanics to bring in MMO fans. This shows a fundamental lack of understanding of BOTH markets.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:00 am

I bet they think they cant fail now with this francise. Good luck thinking that way. This francise is only a success because they are consistently making great games. Stop doing that and it will fail.

Tack on some TES lore to a generic MMO and have a success! If only it was that easy

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:51 pm

Bethesda/ZeniMax had a chance to create a different type of MMO, one we haven't seen yet, and they choose to use someone elses characteristics. It doesn't work, and im willing to bet it wont work.

I think that's what disappoints me most about what I'm hearing.
Now I'm not a big MMO fan to begin with, but I did play WoW for a few years, and I can understand wanting a good, fun, MMO set in the ES universe. But if it's going to feel like WoW and almost every other MMO out there...that's always disappointing, because it'd be nice to see a MMO that feels somehow different. If you're going to take a popular, singleplayer series and turn it into an MMO, it'd be nice if it felt like there were more nods to the single-player games that people fell in love with in the first place.

Still, it's early, and perhaps it won't be all bad/as bad as people are fretting over.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:47 pm

Which was an even bigger mistake.

Huge.

My work, is my work, im not going to hand it off for someone else to create it to how -they- see fit.

Bethesda is full of co-workers that have been working on this series for 10+ years together, and all the sudden they hand it off to ZeniMax and say here we want an MMO?

No, this fan-base Obviously isn't happy with the tactic. You should see how many people are unhappy about this. Rightfully so.

I think it wasn't a mistake - in this way TES:O isn't probably going to affect on the main saga so much as it would if it's made by Bethesda.
I think their biggest mistake was to take MMO-veteran to lead the project instead of having TES-veteran in the charge.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:04 am

Yes we can, with the juicy information we just received its already done, i will not be buying TES online. Nor will a good chunk of the other % of people. Specifically 70% of that chunk. So Good luck with that. Lol. Having a picky fan-base is a [censored], but i'm glad we are.

The good % is a percentage of the comparatively small hardcoe TES fan community. Compare that to the massive influx of the new MMO-loving people which the game is actually being catered to and frankly... that % doesn't matter. No offense, of course.
Just don't bother with this game if it's not something for you, go play around with Skyrim mods and wait till TES 6.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:17 am

The good % is a percentage of the comparatively small hardcoe TES fan community. Compare that to the massive influx of the new MMO-loving people which the game is actually being catered to and frankly... that % doesn't matter. No offense, of course.
Just don't bother with this game if it's not something for you, go play around with Skyrim mods and wait till TES 6.

Oh no, i know what your saying.

You may be correct.

The influx of every other MMO right before it fails is massive. Rift, SW:ToR, just for a couple examples. MASS amounts of people from WoW went to both of those, and after a month or two, they came back. Not all of them, but a lot did. I guess it all comes down to preference.

Me? Personally, i know i can't change the way ZeniMax thinks or what their personal goals are, i guess my friends, forum friends, are just in an uproar about something described as being "Like WoW". The combat system is such a turn off.

Blah.... :confused:

Still, it's early, and perhaps it won't be all bad/as bad as people are fretting over.

I hope your right.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:58 am

Let me put it this way...

You found some cheese, and it was AWESOME.
So you were given another type of cheese, and it was good too.
And another type of cheese, and it was pretty good.
And another.
And antoher.
And another.
And now you're kinda getting tired of cheese, you'd like some other kind of food.
Well, this AWESOME bread company known for their ab-so-lute-ly DELICIOUS types of fancy bread has come to you, and you're like, "SWEET, BREAD!". But they offer you a sample from their new cheese line.

This is how we feel. We wanted something that's not cheese, and the bread guys showed up. We got excited, but were let down when they offered more cheese.

Perfect.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:42 pm

Let me put it this way...

You found some cheese, and it was AWESOME.
So you were given another type of cheese, and it was good too.
And another type of cheese, and it was pretty good.
And another.
And antoher.
And another.
And now you're kinda getting tired of cheese, you'd like some other kind of food.
Well, this AWESOME bread company known for their ab-so-lute-ly DELICIOUS types of fancy bread has come to you, and you're like, "SWEET, BREAD!". But they offer you a sample from their new cheese line.

This is how we feel. We wanted something that's not cheese, and the bread guys showed up. We got excited, but were let down when they offered more cheese.

Thank you, I am stealing this anology.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:23 pm

I have no doubt it will be a fun game

BUT I wanted a 1st person view tbh

so I might not try it ... but yet again who knows

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:48 pm

http://i.imgur.com/MfSL0.jpg.

Good to know that I wasn't the only person who did a double take when I saw that.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:02 pm

My work, is my work, im not going to hand it off for someone else to create it to how -they- see fit.

Does Beth owns the copyright of Zenimax, highly doubt it. Does Zenimax owns the copyrights of Bethesda, highly possible.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:30 pm

As mentioned earlier in this thread, it's a well known fact that 67% of all statistics are completely made up.

But seriously. If you look at the forums for any Elder Scrolls game, you'd probably assume that it hadn't sold many copies because people hated it so much (and that's just before the game even comes out). Yet sales figures and reviews always contradict the general sentiment of the "ub3r l33t h4xX0rz".

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:31 pm

Which was an even bigger mistake.

Huge.

My work, is my work, im not going to hand it off for someone else to create it to how -they- see fit.

Bethesda is full of co-workers that have been working on this series for 10+ years together, and all the sudden they hand it off to ZeniMax and say here we want an MMO?

No, this fan-base Obviously isn't happy with the tactic. You should see how many people are unhappy about this. Rightfully so.

I actually view this as a positive. Not in that I feel ZeniO can do a better job than Bethesda, but in that if the TES MMO has to be a flop, I'd rather it not take the single player line of games with it when it burns to the ground.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:58 pm

Let me put it this way...

You found some cheese, and it was AWESOME.
So you were given another type of cheese, and it was good too.
And another type of cheese, and it was pretty good.
And another.
And antoher.
And another.
And now you're kinda getting tired of cheese, you'd like some other kind of food.
Well, this AWESOME bread company known for their ab-so-lute-ly DELICIOUS types of fancy bread has come to you, and you're like, "SWEET, BREAD!". But they offer you a sample from their new cheese line.

This is how we feel. We wanted something that's not cheese, and the bread guys showed up. We got excited, but were let down when they offered more cheese.

haha, I couldn't have said it any better.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:12 pm

The good % is a percentage of the comparatively small hardcoe TES fan community. Compare that to the massive influx of the new MMO-loving people which the game is actually being catered to and frankly... that % doesn't matter. No offense, of course.
Just don't bother with this game if it's not something for you, go play around with Skyrim mods and wait till TES 6.

Of course, that group of MMO-loving people are also incredibly fickle when it comes to any game not called "World of Warcraft." Let me put it this way: who do you think would be the better audience to woo? The people who have proven that they will not only buy your games, but play them for years even without end game gear grind, or the people who have shown time and time again that they will certainly give your game a try, but then they'll mostly abandon you after a month or two and head back to WoW?

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:19 pm

Does Beth owns the copyright of Zenimax, highly doubt it. Does Zenimax owns the copyrights of Bethesda, highly possible.

ZeniMax is a different type of studio, while they may own Bethesda, Bethesda creates their own work. Developed by people who have been working together for 10+ years.

Like Activision runs Blizzard, They STAY OUT of blizzards way when it comes to games. And its smart that way.

Bethesda had to agree to let ZeniMax take the MMO title, before they started it. Its a mutual agreement between two companies. Though ZeniMax runs Bethesda, there is business rules they have to abide by.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:17 pm

Let me put it this way...

You found some cheese, and it was AWESOME.
So you were given another type of cheese, and it was good too.
And another type of cheese, and it was pretty good.
And another.
And antoher.
And another.
And now you're kinda getting tired of cheese, you'd like some other kind of food.
Well, this AWESOME bread company known for their ab-so-lute-ly DELICIOUS types of fancy bread has come to you, and you're like, "SWEET, BREAD!". But they offer you a sample from their new cheese line.

This is how we feel. We wanted something that's not cheese, and the bread guys showed up. We got excited, but were let down when they offered more cheese.

You summed that up very well sir thank you

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:55 pm

The influx of every other MMO right before it fails is massive. Rift, SW:ToR, just for a couple examples. MASS amounts of people from WoW went to both of those, and after a month or two, they came back. Not all of them, but a lot did. I guess it all comes down to preference.

All of my wat.

Rift is doing fine. It's still very profitable. Also, the fact that you put SW:TOR in there is laughable.