Kind-of

Not really.

They had to merge several servers.

Both MMO's.

is till dont get why people take the "technical limitations" argument serious. its BS other games (such as TERA) are already doing it realy well. The second argument thats BS is that if you dont change it to WoW model nobodys gonna play it. Skyrim got 7 Million people buying it, more than half of that in the first few Months.
You tell me thats not enaugh playerbase? And how many of these WoW like MMORPG were successfull? right! None!

First off. No. Bethesda should never make an MMO. Screw anyone who wants it. They should only make the single player games. If you wanted a TES MMO, this is what you got.

Zenimax online may not have made what you want but at least they did. It svcks they decided to go the safe route with the WoW or whatever gameplay but to me it doesn't really matter. I never played WoW or any WoW gameplay. So I'm guessing I'm the target demographic lol. Funny because Skyrim svcked for me but I loved Morrowind and Oblivion. Meh.

i see most of the anger coming from a gameplay perspective, and not a roleplay or lore perspective.
it seems people need to have a sandbox in order to enjoy the tes setting and lore, which makes me sad because the gameplay for most of the series has been really bad. morrowind was not much of a sandbox :/ it had awful combat in first and 3rd person, but it had the best setting, role play environment, and lore. all the reasons i play the series are in that last positive part. lol.

as for combat
this whole immersive first person action gameplay has not been really great since daggerfall, and daggerfall is really dated now. the only other game that has it as good as daggerfall is mount and blade.

Zenimax is not a game "studio" per se. Is a media company, a publisher/developer. They own Bethesda and they own the Elder Scrolls copyright. You say Beth creates their own work. So what? The artist that invented and drew Bugs Bunny can't draw his creation because Bugs Bunny is owned by Warner Bros and they can do anything with his creation. Zenimax gives freedom to their subsidiaries studios to do what they want but in the end they own every thing unless Beth cut a deal with them about authorship.

Bethesda Game Studios did not make this game and they are not to blame at all. They are the victims in this.


But Zenimax Online Studios, who created TES:O, is.

Bethesda is owned by Zenimax Media Inc, who owns Zenimax Online Studios. I think they made Zenimax Online Studios just to make this game, as it was formed in 2007.
Zenimax Media owns the title and they can do whatever they want with it, including making a [censored] game no one wants.

There's a player base? I thought it wasn't released yet.

And as I always say, never trust forums, counting double for TES forums. Forums are by definition made up of fans, who hate everything anyway. If everyone on this forum were to say they hated TESO and thought it was a terrible idea, well I'd believe that they thought that. Then, if I encountered them in-game, I would be unsurprised. Fan reaction is never a clean or reliable indicator of sales.

See also, Modern warfare boycott.

Absolutely.

These forums don't even come close to representing the people who will actually be playing the game.

Although almost everyone on these forums will be, of course.

on the other hand. these responses dont come only from this Forum but any Forum this topic is featured on... and most news sites in the comment section. And youtube of course.

And you cannot assume everyone that is not writing in Forums and or Youtube totaly loves the concept cause that is BS.

And if you think that those forums are representative of playerbases, you couldn't be more wrong. Even with a game like WoW (which I only mention because of its immense subscriber base), you only see a tiny fraction of people posting on any forums related to the game, most of them with complaints.

yeah well, that's exactly what people think sorry. to them the forums is somehow special and is in no way representative of what people think. barring the people making those statements about the forum of course

as i just stated, yess its not representative of the playerbase. But you CANNOT make ANY assumptions for the est of it. Only for the part you know. So stop acting like its ONLY the forums that wouldnt want this kind of game. Cause beeing all honest, i dont think most fans of Skyrim (7 million bought it) would like this kinda game. I myself know already 4 other TES players that are not on these Forums that would NOT like a WoW style TESO. You cannot build Arguments on wild guessing, all we KNOW is what is on the internet and what our friends say. And so far all of that has been negative.

No it hasn't. I recall saying some positive things. Gross generalizations just hurt your credibility. And four friends does not a sample test make.

still more than none.

your arguments make no sense whatsoever. the majority of feedback online is negative. and we dont know any of the rest i dont know whats so hard to acknowledge about that.

If you check out the ESO Teaser Trailer "likes" on YouTube, you get a very different picture than what is portrayed here on the forums. Only 10% of the viewers who rated the video gave it a thumbs down. Obviously this isn't the best way to rate the prospective popularity of a game, but it's probably more accurate and objective than evaluating the popular opinion of the fanbase based on the forum's response -- which is empirically hugely negative.

but if you read the comments its quite simmilar...

Because generally people who take the time to comment on internet forums (including youtube) are posting negative reactions. You can see that anywhere.

As nerevarine1138 said, the people most motivated to comment, be that on the forums or on video posts, are those who have some complaint to voice. The "thumb" system is more objective as it's more likely to give equal representation to both parties (in fact, it still probably favors those who are opposed to the game).

maybe they should have stuck to the TES formula even in an MMO setting that way they might even attract the now bored out of their skulls mmo players (like me), I know it will be unbalanced and blah blah but really if the game is fun I don't care about balance tbh

so what if playing an archer is really REALLY hard cause I have to actually aim (I HATE heat seeking arrows) hell i do it in BF3 and its 50% of the fun.

so what of playing a mage means I can destroy hordes of monsters I'm a frigging mage damnit, and I might go crazy and swing a sword too the horror a mage with a sword call the MMO police (bad sarcasm )

...etc

I mean they should have risked a new "thing" rather than just copy paste others

Then why are you still here?

You stated you don't like it and it should be different.

The game has been in development for 5 [censored] years.

This game is not for you. No point whining over it.

This is definitely the cheesiest post I've ever read.

this isnt true as people that are not intrigued witht he MMO itself might not downvote the trailer....

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/04/elder-scrolls-online-announcement-generates-fan-backlash/
http://kotaku.com/5907598/first-elder-scrolls-online--details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo
http://rpgwonk.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/the-elder-scrolls-online-announcement-negatively-received-by-fans/
http://geek.pikimal.com/2012/05/06/the-elder-scrolls-online-not-sure-if-want/
http://www.blood-line.com/2012/05/elder-scrolls-online-anounced-why-am-i-disappointed/
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Causes-Fan-Backlash-for-Bethesda-267833.shtml
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2012/05/elder-scrolls-online-disappointment.html
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/elder-visions/
http://manatank.com/2012/05/elder-scrolls-online-details-screenshot/
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/04/a-lot-of-tamriel-estate-the-elder-scrolls-online/
http://www.aboysmind.com/2012/05/06/elder-scrolls-online-more-of-the-same/

There you go.

Thankies
Edit: Someone should totally sticky this stuff