Wait, what? Hoping to be out this week? How does that even make sense? Skyrim was released in the US before any other country and it's biggest market is still HOPING for a patch this week? Kind of ridiculous. Some serious development issues right here.

Hopefully the next XBox is multi-purpose enough to justify my purchase. The only reason I chose a PS3 over a 360, was because it could play Blu-Ray movies. Why buy a gaming machine, plus another Blu-ray player, when you can get both in one.

Now we must wait for SCEAmerica. But at least the patch came through, as promised. I hope it really does work. I don't want to waste money.

Wait, what? Hoping to be out this week? How does that even make sense? Skyrim was released in the US before any other country and it's biggest market is still HOPING for a patch this week? Kind of ridiculous. Some serious development issues right here.

Hey there, through testing the game (I'm a software tester) I believe I found the problem that you guys probably fixed in the patch (http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1284052-i-can-verify-the-problem-and-a-temporary-solution/). It appears to be that memory isn't being correctly dumped and the system is then being forced to remember larger and larger amounts of data as the player explores things that don't refresh (like new dungeons). The outside world seems to refresh properly and sticking to towns one has already visited appears to keep the save file down. I've kept my file down in the low 4mbs this way for the 40+ hours I've played.

My main question is regarding quests. My own save file hasn't had any glitches, so I don't have this problem. But what about the individuals who kept playing even though they knew something was wrong? I suspect their quests are glitched for good since fixing it would require either a world quest reset (likely not going to happen) or individual fixes since everyone's machine would be different (definitely not going to happen).

Other than that, it sounds like the patch is working for those that have gotten it. Individuals still complaining likely haven't rested long enough in-game to let the patch do its thing. I understand if you can't release any information, but thanks for the update anyways!

Hate to break it to ya...but Bethesda isn't lazy or amateur....They prolly have tested this, discussed the framerate problem and tried to fix it for a good part of the 3 years when developing it....Truth is...(even though no one wants to look at it)..is this is the best this engine is gunna run these types of graphics and processing needs with the current engine combined with the PS 3 architecture...This engine cannot run on the SPU's properly or deal with the split RAM...
Basically, I have no doubt in my mind that QA brought this problems up to Bethesda time and time again and Bethesda just said F it...release it.

Skyrim NEEDED a new engine for this release and Bethesda opted to take the cheap way out... again....I honestly think it would be better to keep this XBOX exclusive given the problems that gamers have had if Beth. really didn't want to create a new engine that worked well with the PS 3.....I don't think there is a single AAA multiplat that even comes close to running this crappy(save Bethesda games).
It's sad cuz they did straight up rip us off.

If they just made one for FO 3 they would've been set for FO NV and Skyrim....and sales for PS 3 users would've been a lot more than 29% of the three platforms.

First time Ive seen a game developer not release a patch simultaneously across all regions. Somethings not right here.

Agreed, just doesn't make sense. How does a game like this not get patched everywhere at once? Why must the biggest market wait?

In no way, shape, or form, did any of your mildly coherent ramblings come close to responding to any of my questions. We are all now slightly dumber for the experience you have given us.

It does come down to money. How many resources can you give a particular issue. It does not benefit them financially to put out a game that is broken. It makes financial sense to fix it and so I'm given to believe that there is some larger problem at play here.

Agreed, just doesn't make sense. How does a game like this not get patched everywhere at once? Why must the biggest market wait?

You really do think QA missed this after three broken games have been released, and your somehow giving some insight to a multi-million dollar corporation don't you?
I'm moving on...i guarantee that this game won't and can't be fixed....good news is Dark Souls is playable ....have fun.

I'm so hardcoe watch me play dark souls.

In no way, shape, or form, did any of your mildly coherent ramblings come close to responding to any of my questions. We are all now slightly dumber for the experience you have given us.

It does come down to money. How many resources can you give a particular issue. It does not benefit them financially to put out a game that is broken. It makes financial sense to fix it and so I'm given to believe that there is some larger problem at play here.

I think it would make sense from a business perspective to have smaller markets "beta test" the patch before releasing it on the largest market. If they are doing it for that reason, then it is a savy decision to make.

Other than that, the different branches of Sony may really be handling it differently depending on what the patch actually does to the ps3's performance in other areas.

You really do think QA missed this after three broken games have been released, and your somehow giving some insight to a multi-million dollar corporation don't you?
I'm moving on...i guarantee that this game won't and can't be fixed....good news is Dark Souls is playable ....have fun.

"In no way, shape, or form, did any of your mildly coherent ramblings come close to responding to any of my questions. We are all now slightly dumber for the experience you have given us."

Well thank you Mr. Original for regurgitating a line from Billy Madison.

The problem could be more dynamic than you realize. Until you see the code and know exactly what they have under the hood, you can't say it's a simple fix that they're ignoring. They patched the other games appropriately, so a fix was made for each one. This means that there is some sort of persistence of the issue for some reason we don't know since it makes no financial sense to leave the game broken.

I'm so glad you caught a reference I was purposely making and could share in the recalled experience we may have with such a meme. [/sarcasm]

ha ha @ purposely. nice try.

either way, you're still trolling.

You think I somehow accidentally made a common reference to a classic movie? That sounds highly unlikely.

As to trolling, did the response I recieved add anything to the conversation or actually respond to any of my questions? The person merely quoted me and then proceeded to conduct a lengthy rambling on how evil Bethesda is. I fail to see how my response was anything less than apropos.

The problem could be more dynamic than you realize. Until you see the code and know exactly what they have under the hood, you can't say it's a simple fix that they're ignoring. They patched the other games appropriately, so a fix was made for each one. This means that there is some sort of persistence of the issue for some reason we don't know since it makes no financial sense to leave the game broken.

I'm so glad you caught a reference I was purposely making and could share in the recalled experience we may have with such a meme. [/sarcasm]