[Sheila Reyes]

Dawnguard doesn't interest me anymore. There are better things spending money on now.

same here...I have enough...I am not paying for this [censored]!

[adam holden]

Said it before, but here it is again.....It's very possible that the "30 exclusive" time didn't start until it was released for ALL Xbox 360 platforms....that would include the FIGS version, which didn't get released til roughly 2 Weeks after it was released for the English versions....

In which case they should just say that that's when its started.

[Rex Help]

I already addressed this issue in an earlier post I made. The people at Bethesda (Zenimax) can't make responsible business decisions based on hope or assumptions. Saying something was "slated for success" is an assumption. Kingdoms of Amalur was convincing enough of a project for Rhode Island to loan it 90 million dollars. Irresponsible mismanagement will kill a company like 38 studios. Bethesda is being responsible by taking early exclusivity money before Skyrim launched.

Again, I feel like I'm just wasting my words because no one wants to hear facts, everyone just wants to complain about why they aren't playing DLC yet. I am not trying to defend Bethesda or exclusivity rights, but there seem to be so many confused people here who can't understand why these kinds of deals happen. You are all participating in a hundred billion dollar industry and your contribution to that industry is sixty dollars each. You all should have a realistic understanding of how the hobby you participate in works.

While I totally agree with most of what you say. I have to add, and I'm sure you'll agree, they are completely irresponsible and unprofessional in communicating with their user base. From reading the posts here they have successfully alienated a lot of the people they need to continue a viable business.

You've hit the nail squarely on the head with irresponsible mismanagement, in Bethesda's case this seems to be in the choice of selecting the people responsable for issuing PR statements, or those withholding even general information regarding the release. It may be a hundred billion dollar industry and sixty dollars may not be a great deal in that context, but sixty dollars going to another company is sixty dollars not invested in yours. Add enough of those together and bankruptcy results, alienating your customers is a sure fire way to get there.

Bethesda just have to say you'll get it when it's finished or when it ready, or for that matter you're not getting it, why do they have to be so obnoxious by staying silent, or issuing statements which say nothing relevent at all.

[Micah Judaeah]

In which case they should just say that that's when its started.

They may not be able to...don't know what kind of "gag order"they may be under

[Jack Moves]

All these posts are making me second guess bethesda... maybe i wont get dawnguard if what you all say is true :/

[Kill Bill]

Sorry I'm just an obsessed fan , there's no getting out of it.

You don't need to tell me.

[Maria Leon]

I will be getting the DLC. But what I'm annoyed at here is the lack of communication.

I was under the impression (and so was every other friend of mines from all platforms) that the statement "30 days before you find it anywhere else, the first two content drops for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will be availablle exclusively on Xbox LIVE" meant that for 30 days, the DLC would be released only on Xbox. After that 30 days it would then become available on the others. If you say "30 days exclusively" on any platform. Most people will be thinking after that 30days is up, it gets released to the rest.


And people can take what Pete Hines said to mean that it may never come to other platforms. "we have not announced Dawnguard for any other platform"
I think that they will bring it out on other platforms, but this was the first thing that ran through my mind.

The lack of information and definite answers is really annoying.

[Kill Bill]

While I totally agree with most of what you say. I have to add, and I'm sure you'll agree, they are completely irresponsible and unprofessional in communicating with their user base. From reading the posts here they have successfully alienated a lot of the people they need to continue a viable business.

You've hit the nail squarely on the head with irresponsible mismanagement, in Bethesda's case this seems to be in the choice of selecting the people responsable for issuing PR statements, or those withholding even general information regarding the release. It may be a hundred billion dollar industry and sixty dollars may not be a great deal in that context, but sixty dollars going to another company is sixty dollars not invested in yours. Add enough of those together and bankruptcy results, alienating your customers is a sure fire way to get there.

Bethesda just have to say you'll get it when it's finished or when it ready, or for that matter you're not getting it, why do they have to be so obnoxious by staying silent, or issuing statements which say nothing relevent at all.

Bethesda has [censored] up.

[xxLindsAffec]

I will be getting the DLC. But what I'm annoyed at here is the lack of communication.

I was thinking the same thing.... but now I here its not worth 20$ or the time we have to wait... so idk.

[Charlie Sarson]

They may not be able to...don't know what kind of "gag order"they may be under

You would think they would be smart enough not to agree to a 30 day exclusivity deal that doesn't even let them say when it started.

[{Richies Mommy}]

Cut to 20?? when Todd Howard will announce Fallout 4 ( in a bulletproof vest and surrounded by bodyguards ).

[louise fortin]

Read this, its SO True:

PC are the forsworn having their series stolen from them (skyrim and oblivion) which was rightfully theirs (morrowind).

This. this is what i find so absolutely irritating about the whole thing. i have always been a loyal elderscrolls follwer on pc. my husband and i actually have an xbox, and he never went near the series till he got oblivion on xbox and now subsequently got skyrim the same time i got it on pc. now i have to sit here watching him lord it over me playing dawngaurd on xbox while i have no idea if i will ever get to play it. i know how it works with the whole xbox exclusivity deal. it's a fact that xbox is an extremely popular format, and it all about where the money is. yes they are a company and a companies main goal is to make as much money as possible. its just i can't help feel that as a long time pc playing elderscrolls follower that ive been kicked in the teeth somewhat with the seeming lack of respect that the original core fanbase is being given over this whole situation. times change, yes and so does technology, but if it wasnt for the support of pc players who have been there from the beginning then the series would never have progressed far enough to have ever seen the light of day on a console in the first place.

[i grind hard]

You would think they would be smart enough not to agree to a 30 day exclusivity deal that doesn't even let them say when it started.

Depends...but it could be that the FIGS version was supposed to be released at the same time as the English version, but it had to be delayed for some reason

[Brian Newman]

Not sure if its been posted before, but someone pointed me to the 'general stats' menu on the pc version and there is a listing for Dawnguard quests completed. Generally speaking, I think the ps3 people should get Dawnguard for free. They effectively could not play the game they legally purchased for over a month. Now they have been denied the 1.6 patch in favor of the 1.7. Give them the damn dlc for free Bethesda.

[Mel E]

Doesn't matter to me....I got a long wait just for Patch 1.7/1.6, and hell we may have to wait even longer for the DLC to.

[kyle pinchen]

Not sure if its been posted before, but someone pointed me to the 'general stats' menu on the pc version and there is a listing for Dawnguard quests completed. Generally speaking, I think the ps3 people should get Dawnguard for free. They effectively could not play the game they legally purchased for over a month. Now they have been denied the 1.6 patch in favor of the 1.7. Give them the damn dlc for free Bethesda.

Are you a PS3 player or PC?

[Cody Banks]

Are you a PS3 player or PC?

I only have it for the pc. Also, I'm have not installed the 1.7 beta patch and the entry for Dawnguard quests completed is not there. It must have been added with the beta 1.7.

[NEGRO]

Dawnguard is looking less and less attractive. The long i have to wait the less i want it

[Tha King o Geekz]

This is why you don't do 30 day exclusives. All it accomplishes is fragmenting the community and generating hostility.

[lydia nekongo]

Not sure if its been posted before, but someone pointed me to the 'general stats' menu on the pc version and there is a listing for Dawnguard quests completed. Generally speaking, I think the ps3 people should get Dawnguard for free. They effectively could not play the game they legally purchased for over a month. Now they have been denied the 1.6 patch in favor of the 1.7. Give them the damn dlc for free Bethesda.

While I really do feel for PS3 players I wouldn't count on getting DG free ever happening.

[Je suis]

can we not worry about this guy? hes expressing his thoughts about this [censored]. how about we stay on topic?

Ok Ps3/PC users will get Dawnguard when xbox users get Hearthfire. (Just a little joke)

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

Said it before, but here it is again.....It's very possible that the "30 exclusive" time didn't start until it was released for ALL Xbox 360 platforms....that would include the FIGS version, which didn't get released til roughly 2 Weeks after it was released for the English versions....

The fact that Gstaff posted on the 26th to say completely nothing would seem to negate your suggestion. His posting on this date would be too big a coincidence as it was released for Xbox on the 26th June.

[Josh Lozier]

While I really do feel for PS3 players I wouldn't count on getting DG free ever happening.

Im a ps3 player, and i feel like the pc players have been [censored] on... so have we but not as bad as pc, the ones who built the company.

[Sian Ennis]

is gstaff a bethesda worker or a moderator on this page????

[Matt Terry]

The fact that Gstaff posted on the 26th to say completely nothing would seem to negate your suggestion. His posting on this date would be too big a coincidence as it was released for Xbox on the 26th June.

Not necessarily....that's when everyone started screaming "WHERE'S THE DLC"