Playstation Orbis PS4

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:16 pm

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-04-21-the-pspgo-was-a-complete-flop

Bad link. But based on the url, I agree that the PSP Go was a disaster. Just like Onlive...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:21 pm

Rumor or not. It's getting alot of attention.
Most rumors do.
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Hannah Barnard
 
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:55 pm

Some of it's probably accurate. The anti used games and Backward Compability is a dealbreaker from day one if the rumors are true. I believe Console players will be more restrictive to this kind of practice then PC gamers are. I laugh at Microsoft and Sony if they go this route, DRM doesn't work and it's been proven not to work over and over again.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:18 am

Some of it's probably accurate. The anti used games and Backward Compability is a dealbreaker from day one if the rumors are true. I believe Console players will be more restrictive to this kind of practice then PC gamers are. I laugh at Microsoft and Sony if they go this route, DRM doesn't work and it's been proven not to work over and over again.
Since when have you known a large corporation to listen to silly little things like logic if it's even slightly possible that they'd gain more money from doing otherwise, damn the consequences?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:38 pm

If the many millions of iPhone and iPad users have grown to accept buying all of their apps and music as digital downloads from the App Store and iTunes, isn't it likely Sony and Microsoft want in on that type of action?

Keeping retailers and wholesalers happy leaves a lot of money on the table, not to mention returns and used game sales.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:12 am

If the many millions of iPhone and iPad users have grown to accept buying all of their apps and music as digital downloads from the App Store and iTunes, isn't it likely Sony and Microsoft want in on that type of action?

Keeping retailers and wholesalers happy leaves a lot of money on the table, not to mention returns and used game sales.
Oh yes, because those 50 mb or so smartphone apps and 5 mb song files are equivalent to 20+ GB games. If MGS4 was digital-download only it would be impossible for many people to play because the download would be larger than their monthly data cap.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:09 am

If the many millions of iPhone and iPad users have grown to accept buying all of their apps and music as digital downloads from the App Store and iTunes, isn't it likely Sony and Microsoft want in on that type of action?

Cutting in retail outlets is leaving a lot of money on the table, not to mention used game sales.
The difference there is that those games aren't made with the "hardcoe" gamer in mind. They're simple little things that usually don't even take 20MB that you play while in the waiting room at the doctors.

I really don't want to wait god knows how long for my 20 GB game to download on my already spotty internet. Steaming is possible, but as I said, my spotty internet would make that hell fro ("Fro" is a word?) me. Plus I'm sure the cost of the servers would be astronomical.

And then what about the people without internet, or really crappy internet? They could possibly be alienating a large portion of their potential user base.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:48 pm

The difference there is that those games aren't made with the "hardcoe" gamer in mind. They're simple little things that usually don't even take 20MB that you play while in the waiting room at the doctors.

I really don't want to wait god knows how long for my 20 GB game to download on my already spotty internet. Steaming is possible, but as I said, my spotty internet would make that hell fro me. Plus I'm sure the cost of the servers would be astronomical.

Not to mention that this is Sony we are talking about and we know how vulnerable they are to hacking. Hopefully the nextgen console they produce is better resistent to hacking but I have my doubts.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:46 am

Not to mention that this is Sony we are talking about and we know how vulnerable they are to hacking. Hopefully the nextgen console they produce is better resistent to hacking but I have my doubts.
If you think the console had anything to do with PSN getting hacked, you don't know what you're talking about.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:30 am

If you think the console had anything to do with PSN getting hacked, you don't know what you're talking about.

I agree. And I like how people ignore the fact that thousands of 360 users are getting actual credit card information stolen every year from hackers.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:12 pm

I suppose it depends on projections for what the broadband penetration will look like around Q4 2013.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:38 am

Radeon HD 7700 and 7900 graphic cards.
I can't see them putting a 7900 series GPU in a console, considering the cost and power consumption of those things.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:08 am

If you think the console had anything to do with PSN getting hacked, you don't know what you're talking about.
Not that it isn't true, mind you. And they don't like people knowing about it or doing it. I have no problem with a good console hack though, as long as it isn't used to cheat in multiplayer. But hacking of PS3 consoles had absolutely nothing to do with the server hack.

To be more specific: The PSN servers were hacked, which had nothing to do with the console itself. This was due to outdated protection software and lax security procedures in general which were then exploited by Lulzsec "for the lulz".
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:48 pm

Not that it isn't true, mind you. And they don't like people knowing about it or doing it. I have no problem with a good console hack though, as long as it isn't used to cheat in multiplayer. But hacking of PS3 consoles had absolutely nothing to do with the server hack.

To be more specific: The PSN servers were hacked, which had nothing to do with the console itself. This was due to outdated protection software and lax security procedures in general which were then exploited by Lulzsec "for the lulz".
It was due to an apache web server vulnerability http://www.geek.com/articles/games/psn-was-running-on-unpatched-apache-server-with-no-firewall-2011055/, not outdated security software (just a lack of it :tongue:). LulzSec also had nothing to do with it. Sony accuses Anonymous of having done it, but no proof of this claim was given and Anonymous denies any activity in it.



I suppose it depends on projections for what the broadband penetration will look like around Q4 2013.
Even with a high broadband penetration, nothing changes. In Europe and Australia bandwidth caps are becomming more and more common. Same for Canada. It doesn't matter if everyone can pull 10 mbit down or more, if they have a 50 GB monthly cap it'll seriously limit the amount of games they can download.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:48 am

It was due to an apache web server vulnerability http://www.geek.com/articles/games/psn-was-running-on-unpatched-apache-server-with-no-firewall-2011055/, not outdated security software (just a lack of it :tongue:). LulzSec also had nothing to do with it. Sony accuses Anonymous of having done it, but no proof of this claim was given and Anonymous denies any activity in it.
Shows what I know about things that I barely remember reading about in the fist place. :tongue: However, someone had to have done it and then posted it all over the web. Fits Anonymous's and Lulzsec's MO at least.

However, last I remember it was due to an outdated version of Apache. Which would fit with the "unpatched".
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:16 pm



Isn't there a possibility the PS4 will simply not use any retail discs?

Cutting out the optical drive and limiting games to digital download only would be a very interesting move IMO.
*personal opinion disclaimer*

I didn't know interesting meant stupid
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:20 pm

I'm not liking what I hear about these future consoles... I don't think I'll be buying another one.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:06 am

http://kotaku.com/5896996/the-next-playstation-is-called-orbis-sources-say-here-are-the-details/
"Orbis" itself, from Latin, means circle, or ring, or even orbit. Not terribly helpful. Combine it with the name of Sony's new handheld system, though, and you have the common term Orbis Vita (or, in strict Latin, Orbis Vitae). Which means "The circle of life".
Ingenious.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:39 am

The http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XukjbgZHePY/ThrwdtnllnI/AAAAAAAAAFc/84iPKsnisag/s1600/PS3s.jpg of the PS3 still has backwards compatibility with PS2...

PS3 controllers didn't even have Dualshock support until 2008. Comparing my old controller with my new one, the Sixaxis-only one feels as light as a feather.
I think that's only the 20-40GB model that has it? 60 and above doesnt?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:05 am

NOT EVEN PS1!?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:02 am

so wait, does this mean me and my friend cant share games anymore?

we have to start sharin our consoles with thte next gen?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:57 am

NO SOUP FOR YOU

First of all, those are unsubstantiated rumors. Second of all, backwards compatibility is integral to Playstation. I bought a PS3 at the right time and it can play any PS2 game. I was even playing DaH on it a few days ago.

You got lucky and got one of the few PS3s that can do PS2 backwards compatibility. Hoped I got one, but sadly it was a new gen one that only does BC for the PS1 games.


As for this rumor I am EXTREMELY skeptical that Sony would do this. PS1 BC is so freakin easy to do compared to PS2 stuff that they would be crazy not to do it. As for the used games thing that rumor I believe originated from Microsoft who is using it on their next gen XBox which wouldn't surprise me. Sony has been in the market for long enough to know that used games are not a hindrance. Putting in that kind of stuff would only encourage problems in the gaming industry on top of what is already plaguing it (lack of creativity, Story content *cough ME3*, etc... )
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:31 pm

The PS3 doesn't have backwards compatibility with the PS2 anymore, and only has software-based backwards compatibility with the PSX. If there's some big differences in the architecture for the PS4 then there'd be no way to do software-based compatibility that would run on any decent level. The 360 also only has partial backwards compatibility through software, and things claimed to be compatible vary greatly in how well they run. There's a good chance the xbox's next iteration also won't have backwards compatibility.

My bad. Just ignore me whenever I'm attempting to sound intelligent.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:07 am

I think that's only the 20-40GB model that has it? 60 and above doesnt?
The older 60 GB PS3s were able to play PS2 games. I should know, I have a 60 GB and recently played Beyond Good & Evil on it.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:40 pm

The older 60 GB PS3s were able to play PS2 games. I should know, I have a 60 GB and recently played Beyond Good & Evil on it.
Yeah, I've got one of the 60 GB's (it used to be 60, anyway. Swapped out the hard drive a year ago) as well, and they had PS2 CPUs installed on their motherboards. Those quickly got pulled in favor of software emulation, (models CECHCxx to CECHExx) and then backwards compatibility was pulled all together with the CECHGxx ones and all others made after.
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