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Nailed it on the head. Exactly what I was trying to point out.

Some people don't even give other views a chance while other more open-minded people tend to try things out before passing judgement on them.


I wont go into specifics because it deals with politics, specifically the economy, but she had no concept of what she was trying to say. She said she wanted "X" outcome, but the way she said she wanted to achieve "X" outcome would in no direct way achieve it.

An anology would be that she said "Oh I want to go to Cancun, Mexico for Spring Break," and then started driving towards Ontario, Canada. I in turn stated how I believed said outcome could be achieved and she stated right off the bat that I was wrong and stupid without even considering what I was saying as a viable way to achieve the stated goal. She did have a few good points, however, the way she applied them and the ideas she attached them too caused none of it to make any sense, even from an open-minded point of view.

That's all I'm going to say on the matter though and I'd prefer if I wasn't pressed for more information as I cant elaborate on the situation any further without violating the forum's policies on political discussion. Also, as TheDeathDecay said, the specific situation isn't the reason for discussion, the idea that some people enter a discussion with a set view point and an unwillingness to change that view point is the reason for the thread. The incident simply sparked me to create the discussion.

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I'm not supprised kids don't care about gas prices, the economy,etc...

But care about Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber, ect...

Perhaps, OP, you should have been more open minded to what she was saying

That's normal. When they're older they'll care about gas prices, etc, but for now - they're kids.

I've seen plenty of advlts who don't care about important issues either. Like almost everybody in my family.

Agreed right here. Until you have to pay for everything yourself, it's hard to grasp what things actually cost. Gotta say, with these higher gas prices, I've been having to be very schedule centric with my friends, work, and, well, everything.

Case in point, me, who has been working for a year, is counting every penny spent, and hates seeing $60 being spent at the pump each week. My brother, pays $200s a week for how much he drives, and that doesn't include everything else he spends his money on (like food and his personal luxuries.)

I know exactly how you feel. Where I live there are pretty much no jobs for the 17-18 age group. All the agriculture jobs get taken by the migrant workers and the few restaurant jobs get taken by the older people who don't have jobs. I've been forced to work odd little jobs here and there like fertilizing plants at a nursery and running the game-clock at basketball games. Both of which I got through "friend of a friend" kind of things.

Every six months I'm having to fork over $800 for car insurance, even though I don't even have a car yet. So while I make $300 at a time doing small jobs and trying to save up about $5000 for a car, I keep having to pay $1600 a year for insurance to drive my parents cars to the jobs I need to make the money to get my own car. My Dad and I are paying close to $800 a month in gas for both cars as well. It's like one step forward two steps back. I've been saving as much money as I can and refusing to spend it on anything.

"Escapism society"?

Basically. They live in world where they think everything is perfect, and there's nothing to be concerned about except who's going to be the next American Idol.

Yes, and when you recognize you aren't the ego, but the conscious that is aware of the ego dismissing such ideas then you can break free, get everyone to understand this is out of my power and I would refer to the being I soley trust. I can't speak of him due to rules but I'm sure he understands.

I have noticed that many of those around me have become more openminded, but I have also had situations in the past when I felt nobody would even consider other options. I guess it goes up and down for most people.

As for close-mindedness in itself I think it is important to at least listen to more than one side instead of assuming you are right.

Ya, probably.

People have always been close-minded. It's not a new, magical aspect of human existence that's sprung up recently.

I know, but I've just been noticing it a lot more lately.

Hmmm...maybe, you're just becoming...dare I say....OPEN MINDED?????!!!!!

Close your minds people.

Times are desperate. People are desperate. Their minds are not free.

People today are close-minded? Maybe I don't get out much but I haven't seen any witch burnings nor gotten laughed at for believing that the world is round lately. I have to admit that there are some problems today, like how it's more important to care about some peoples feelings rather than objectivity amongst other things and how some people shouldn't be allowed to speak because you don't agree with them. But in the end many problems have been around for a long time, just that they fluctuate and come back wearing different colors. And for the record, you will find plenty of close-minded individuals outside of America, the main difference being that they might be close-minded about different topics or have different standpoints.

Arguing is working together to solve problems. Solutions, including compromises, are achieved through argument.

A closed mind is like a fortress without eyes or scouts. It believes itself prepared for anything and never sees nor reacts appropriately to the force that destroys it.

All things in moderation. Science shows us how to think. Be skeptical and doubtful of new knowledge but unafraid to alter your perceptions when necessary for real truth.

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The point of being open-minded is not "you must give every opinion equal consideration, you can't ever say anyone is wrong". It means you use the evidence you have to come to a conclusion (and, most importantly, modify the conclusion if new evidence comes up), instead of latching on to a conclusion and then twisting evidence around to fit it.

It has been extensively proven that the Earth is round; therefore we are not obliged to give credence to somebody claiming that the Earth is a cube unless they come up with some very compelling evidence.

However, there is no single economic theory that has been proven to fix everything (though there are a number that have been proven to not work). Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "Economic theory X is the best and will fix everything because magic!!" is a decidedly unproductive way to approach an argument.

This is hardly a new problem though, if anything people are becoming more and more open-minded.

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