Ponyfication Question

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:43 am

I'd get cybernetic organs and a robotic arm. I actually talk about this semi-frequently. :P
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Dominic Vaughan
 
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:20 pm

This entire thread presupposes the idea that being a cyborg and human are mutually exclusive. Are you suggesting that people with artificial hearts, synthetic joints, prosthetic limbs, etc, are somehow "less" than human? Obviously they are not, and if this is the case, where does the line get drawn between human/cyborg? I don't think there is such a distinction at all. Ergo, I see no conflict.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:24 pm

No, because it would probably mean that I could be "hacked", since I would probably be connected to the internet or something similar.
If, however, I could be sure I couldn't be controlled like a machine (doesn't "robot" mean servant originally?), then yes, why not.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you already can be hacked. In fact it's easier to hack a human than hack a computer. It's why social engineering is so effective. Humans have a really bad buffer overflow problem.

This entire thread presupposes the idea that being a cyborg and human are mutually exclusive. Are you suggesting that people with artificial hearts, synthetic joints, prosthetic limbs, etc, are somehow "less" than human? Obviously they are not, and if this is the case, where does the line get drawn between human/cyborg? I don't think there is such a distinction at all. Ergo, I see no conflict.
QFT. There are already cyborgs among us, they just have a little more flesh than the OP proposes
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:16 am

It is true, and, barring some illness or misfortune, you will be finding that out for yourself.
By saying hat 'I'd rather not find out myself' I meant that I wouldn't want to go through this operation to live forever if eventually i won't even be able to experience anything.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 am

If it was still me, then sure why not.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:48 am

Never mind.
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Imy Davies
 
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:31 am

I never would sacrifice my humanity, the closest I'd get is prosthetic limbs, and maybe a few adjustments to my body.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:45 am

Oh yes. My ideal society would be a mostly abandoned earth inhabited by no more than a few million people, centralized government ran by scientists and engineers, with the sole purpose of advancing humanity through science. No soldiers, no priests, just people working on science and technology. The inevitable portion of people who are unwilling, too stupid or otherwise incapable of Contributing are responsible for physical labor.

I want to live in your world. Where is the nearest wormhole?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:52 pm

I don't think I'd want to be cybernetic, it would almost be like being immortal. All the people you ever cared about would be gone (unless they got cyborg implants) not only that but the military would go our of their way to recruit you up to the point of not giving you a choice. No I'll stick to good old fasion flesh, bone and death. I maybe weeker to a cyborg but at least I can die when the world plunges deeper in to hell .
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:37 am

I maybe weeker to a cyborg but at least I can die when the world plunges deeper in to hell .

Why would a cyborg not be capable of suicide?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:26 pm

Why would a cyborg not be capable of suicide?

If you where programed not to, you wouldn't be able to.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:16 pm

If you where programed not to, you wouldn't be able to.

A cyborg still has a human consciousness. A cyborg without a human consciousness is called a robot.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:52 pm

I don't think I'd want to be cybernetic, it would almost be like being immortal. All the people you ever cared about would be gone (unless they got cyborg implants) not only that but the military would go our of their way to recruit you up to the point of not giving you a choice. No I'll stick to good old fasion flesh, bone and death. I maybe weeker to a cyborg but at least I can die when the world plunges deeper in to hell .
Why would a cyborg be immortal? A cyborg is still part flesh, so can still die of biological causes. Also electronics hardly last forever. I really doubt cyborgs would have a significantly longer lifespan, maybe 150 years tops.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:51 pm

A cyborg still has a human consciousness. A cyborg without a human consciousness is called a robot.

Think of it as a fail safe. If a government or high dollar company is going to spend millions on cybernizing a person they would implant the "Don't kill self" order somewhere in your brain and even if a high dollar company did the operation (and you somehow paid them) I'm sure even the big wig would implant some fail safe in you to protect their investments. Then again I'm thinking of Ghost in the Shell and Xenosaga logic here :D.

@ Defron: Cybernetic Immortailty wouldn't just mean your body but your brain as well. Even if your body gave out after a period of time, they could still take your brain and put it on another body and there you go. Like I said before "I'm thinking in Ghost in the Shell and Xenosaga logic here" :D .
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:18 am

A cyborg still has a human consciousness. A cyborg without a human consciousness is called a robot.
Exactly. If you could be "programmed" in a certain way then you wouldn't be a cyborg, you'd be an android.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:19 am

I guess another thing about Cyborg Suicide it would depend who built you. If you paid someone to build you then you have more control over your actions---then if wanted to you could kill yourself. BBBBUUUUUTTTTT if a government or a powerful company got a hold of you for whatever reason aginst your will they would implant the "no self terminate" order just so they could protect their investment.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:53 pm

@ Defron: Cybernetic Immortailty wouldn't just mean your body but your brain as well. Even if your body gave out after a period of time, they could still take your brain and put it on another body and there you go. Like I said before "I'm thinking in Ghost in the Shell and Xenosaga logic here" :D .
Where do these empty shells come from? Even if you could transfer to a new body there would be high costs associated with it no normal person could afford. Even those that could would have to relearn how to use the new body again ( see how much physical training is necessary to help someone after just an injury). If the bodies are fabricated then they can have flaws. What if something goes wrong in transfer? Would you try out the transfer? Even with the ability to transfer you can still die before being able to initiate it.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:37 pm

A cyborg still has a human consciousness. A cyborg without a human consciousness is called a robot.

Exactly. If you could be "programmed" in a certain way then you wouldn't be a cyborg, you'd be an android.

Narmy's right. It would technically (in sci-fi jargon) be called an "android".

Think of it as a fail safe. If a government or high dollar company is going to spend millions on cybernizing a person they would implant the "Don't kill self" order somewhere in your brain and even if a high dollar company did the operation (and you somehow paid them) I'm sure even the big wig would implant some fail safe in you to protect their investments. Then again I'm thinking of Ghost in the Shell and Xenosaga logic here :biggrin:.

I doubt this would be ethical, so I just don't see it happening, especially if the money you use to pay for it is yours.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:15 am

I wouldn't mind an extended lifespan, but anything in the realm of never aging? No thanks. To many horror stories. The idea of losing loved ones, friends, wives, etc. I wouldn't want that kind of pain.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:30 pm

I wouldn't mind an extended lifespan, but anything in the realm of never aging? No thanks. To many horror stories. The idea of losing loved ones, friends, wives, etc. I wouldn't want that kind of pain.

I don't really understand this. You're going to experience this anyway. At least if you're a cyborg you get to experience the other good parts of life a little more. You get to learn more things, experience new things, meet new people, etc.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:14 pm

Where do these empty shells come from? Even if you could transfer to a new body there would be high costs associated with it no normal person could afford.

The empty shells would come from the people who made you by prosthetic bodies, but unless you're a goverment official (Police or Military with perks about finacing a new body) it's like you said no civilan could afford this unless you're super rich. However this on the level of Ghost in the Shell Universe I doubt Cybernetic like that will exsit in my lifetime or ever.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:04 am



The empty shells would come from the people who made you by prosthetic bodies, but unless you're a goverment official (Police or Military with perks about finacing a new body) it's like you said no civilan could afford this unless you're super rich. However this on the level of Ghost in the Shell Universe I doubt Cybernetic like that will exsit in my lifetime or ever.
Generally speaking, a cyborg at the least has a human brain. If it doesn't it is usually considered an android. This is a thread about cyborgs. The reason for this distinction is that it would be significantly harder to reproduce the capabilities of the human brain, let alone transfer a consciousness into one. So while empty bodies exist in such a situation no empty brains exist for you to be stored in. So basically it's no longer a cyborg. Once you are no longer a cyborg other problems arise about the viability of the species due to no new offspring.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:19 pm

Yes. I would do it instantly.

My main enhancements would be a math processor that would do calculations much quicker.
The ability to record and take images with my eyes.
The ability to see the brains file structure.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:47 pm

I never asked for this.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:29 am

If we are talking about being cyberneticized (turned partially synthetic), then I might be willing to do something like that. The thread title, and the mention of being "no longer human", made me think the OP was talking about complete conversion to synthetic... an android with your consciousness transferred into it. As I stated earlier, I believe consciousness is not transferable.

I might be willing to get upgrades, though, provided the functioning of my mind was not disturbed.
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