... but you can still play all sides for your own nefarious goals.

Possibly.

OP. Any discussion should be seen as good discussion. Any interest or posts on the mod idea are a good thing, even when the post says something different than just "Good idea"

What? What time is passed? The Forsworn acted before that just as they act after that. When they got the city it just shows how they act when they rule compared to how they act when they fight for freedom.

You make it look like they were peaceful teletubbies and ok with nord rule for looong time, then they took Markath (peacefully I assume?) and after Ulfric expelled them they turned into some mad crowd or whatever.



You repeatable ignore everything that doesn't fit into your tiny little world and worldview of the Forsworn and Nords. Go spam some other thread, you derailed this one enough as it is.

There's no possibility of peace between forsworn and stormcloaks, but there's indications the empire would have been ready to give the reach recognition similar to that given to Orsinium, until Ulfric put down the uprising.

You're right. The Forsworn should be working with the Empire as much as it can instead of odering assassinatons of Imperial spies. The Silver-bloods did a good job of burning that bridge for the Forsworn.
If the Forsworn did retake Markarth, even with the Empire's blessing, I'm not so sure the Nords would OK with that... and it does seem like Igmund and the citizens of Markarth are working very hard to be a part of the Empire. Ulfric put the forsworn in a very bad position, and the only real peaceful option I can see working out for them is to simple take off their deer-hide outfits, take a bath and enter Markarth as peaceful citizens of the Empire and call it a day. They'll lose having their own kingdom, but they will have peace and prosperity instead. THEN they could actually work with Markarth and the Empire against Ulfric and the Stormcloaks and get their vengance.

That's like saying "Stormcloaks should lay down their weapons, shave their Nord beards, renounce the silly Talos worship, and enter Skyrim cities as peaceful citizens". The Forsworn don't need to wait for anyone or anything, they are already fighting only Nords, and waited long enough. They are not fighting any Imperial armies and Empire stayed neutral as much as possible.

The entire game is based on the fact that someone wants their own kingdom, in this case Ulfric and the Stormcloaks, and fights off the Empire.

This thread is about the mod that does the same, except with Forsworn and the Stormcloaks. Your scenario is one option, but not the option I envisioned for this mod/thread. So if you want it your way where both Ulfric and the Forsworn bend over and all conflict in Skyrim ends, you can start your own thread. Add to that that all the Werewolves bend over to Silver hand, and renounce their werewolf form, also all the vampires and daedra bend over to Vigilants of Stendorr. And then everyone lives peacefully until the end of their lives. The player arrives in Skyrim, can't kill any beasts because it's "poaching" and therefore crime, can't kill any person because it's murder since everyone is a good citizen, and can't enter any catacombs/caves because it's tresspassing, a sacrilege, or a state-protected heritage site. The player however can become a Bard or a Farmer.



About entering the city peacefully and becoming a nice and cuddly residents of Markath - you obviously *still* refuse to read any material on Forsworn issue and what problem they had with Nords in the first place. Debating with you is totally pointless, and moreover, you mistook this forum section (Skyrim Mods) for General Talk. This isn't a section where people welcome others debating issues, trolling and spamming. It's a section where people discuss mods themselves. It's not an invitation for everyone who disagrees to start flooding the thread. That's in General Talk, not here.

Right now you're here telling *me* what kind of mod *I* should use to pass *your* politically correct test. First, that's arrogant. Second, I am not a democrat but anti-democratic absolutist. I couldn't care less about your opinion. I made the thread to see if it can be done. It's not a poll where I check if over 50% of people agree, and then I say "ah now I can do this, it's officially allowed by humans". When I'll need your approval for a mod *I* will use, then I will send you a private message, be assured.

The Stormcloaks should lay down their swords and join the Empire and work together until they're ready to destroy the Aldmeri Dominion together, instead of wasting time with a civil war that in the end, can't possibly help anyone. An independant Skyrim has no chance against the Aldmeri Dominion on it's own, especially if it's going to put itself against the Thalmor and the Empire at the same time.

If you want to make a mod, shut your trap and make a mod. You're clearly not intersted in anyone elses' input or opinion, let alone ideas or help. Don't make a topic on a discussion forum if you're opposed to it being the topic of a discussion.