I'ts the gaming retailers you have to blame i think with the prices they charge for 2nd hand games....especially as they will only give you a bottom value for it then flog it at 3 times the price i have seen this too many times especially with GAME and GAMESTATION in the uk...

A few months ago, I read that I would not be allowed to sell or trade my FULL license of Rage away. Even if i pay full price.
Selling me something, then telling me its not mine to do with, what i choose, is unacceptable.

Is this still the case?
is any portion of the game still unconditionatlly mine upon purchase?

Ive purchased every single Doom game that I can remember from IDsoftware.

if they are going to try and tell me "you do not recieve the full game (100 percent content) upon buying a used , or selling a used game).
I simply wont buy it while its full price.

Jeep didnt tell me "Your not allowed to sell your Jeep" "if you buy a used jeep, you will have to pay additional charges directly to Jeep to use the pre-owned jeep.
Software companies can sale one product an infinite number of times. Create it once, sell it an unlimited number of times, for the rest of time.

Its to the point where they dont even have to produce physical material anymore. just copies data.

and yet they are still trying to revoke my purchase.

is this true?
or am I mistaken?

I will not be buying the game if its the case.

I know this was the case as of months ago. but i would imagine IDSoftware will be changing thier mind.

Ill purchase the game full price if they do.
Ill wait till its used and cheap if not.

tbh the game looks a bit dull.
(Although I greatly respect the passion and word that went into the engine) the game itself is kinda -yawn.

reportedly, you dont have acess to some minor areas that dont really have much to do with the main game. I'cve heard shortcuts throught he sewers.

but it sounds like youre not really into the game to being with, so what;'s it matter to you? Or are you just trying to rufle feathers?

On the PC side, I think it gets attached to a Steam account so you can't give it to someone else later.

On the consoles you can trade it around with your friends, but they will not be able to use the transport system in the game which are the sewers and work much like the Fast Travel in Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

This is not new at all... Dead Space 2, Resistance 3, BF3, etc, etc. call it an online pass.

Take a deep breath and realize you just fell asleep for awhile. I promise it'll all be A-O.K.!.

Topics like this bring tears to my eyes.

This question has been asked, whined about, and all around flamed over for many days.

YES, if you sell the game, the person who buys it WILL NOT gain access to certain minor areas that have NOTHING to do with the storyline.

YES, you can sell the game.

YES, you have the full rights to it if you buy it new.

HOWEVER, the person who buys it from you does not have access to everything. But that won't affect gameplay at all really.

The game will still be beast either way.

Revoking my ability to trade my game (100 percent). is not acceptable.

If they want to sell more copies, produce games that are worth buying. (I would have bought a new copy of Rage) so producing quality products is actually what earned my purchase this time around. simply because of the passion that went into it, the quality of the product. not actually because its any more fun looking than any other game.
but once they renegg on my product. they lose my business.

trying to dig into my ability to sell an old item I bought is unacceptable.

I will not be buying Rage. Sadly. and tbh I only say sadly, because I respect ID Software so much. not because I wanted to play the game, because tbh...

Its no Doom.

Ill be buying ElderScrolls instead. Ill buy Rage after its half price next year, if I bother. ( I was gonig to buy it just to support the passionate company that went into it, Im sure id enjoy it as "a damn decent game").



Jeep doesnt cry when I buy last years Jeep used instead of buying a new Jeep.
they dont cry "We want a percentage on used crap".
if they do, they will lose my business also


Sorry John.
dont let them force you to do crap you dont want too.
Your losing 20 year customers over it.

Ahhh. Well, there seems to be no changing your mind. Your loss.

If you're so dead set on not buying it, why post a topic ranting about it? Honestly, nobody else wants to hear it.

You can sell or trade in your game. You have every right to do that. How many times must that be stated before you actually understand it?

THE GAME IS YOURS TO DO WITH WHAT YOU PLEASE.

You can still make a profit by selling or trading it in. The only person affected will be the person who buys it from you, and even then they probably won't even notice anything.

If you don't want to buy it, then don't. It's only affecting you.

Compare with a Jeep was the worst example I have ever seen ...

A Jeep is composed of several parts that spoil over the years, losing value is normal for this type of product ...

A game, when you purchase, play, and sells, he remains the same, unchanged ...

Blu-ray/DVD can scratch, break, have things stuck, but it is your responsibility ...

This type of policy is to prevent people who will buy, play 30 hours each, and sell for half the price, taking profit of the company directly ...

(PS: Sorry for the mistakes of the English language (if there are (google translator)), but had to comment on this)

Bethesda enforced online pass - it wasn't probably planned by developers. These are all commercial choices that most of times make more negative than positive effects.

Are you serious? You claim to have respect for them and love their products, that you have been a customer for 20 years. Yet a feature that will not even affect you if you bought it new and will have no impact on you if you decide to trade it in later is a big enough deal breaker that you will not get this game until it is at least half price,if at all? Then I doubt your claim and believe you never had any intention of buying it new and are just complaining because you will be the one affect by this feature.
The only people who need to worry about the locked content are people who are buying it used.

When you buy a movie on DVD & Blu-ray you do not own that product outright, specifically you don't have the legal right to do with it whatever you want. This applies to other digital media as well, say MP3's. Does that anger you too?

The more I read your posts the more I think you sound like an outraged hacker who's peeved the 'big bad corporate world' is stepping on your toes and your ability to D/L and play games for free. One thing is clear your NOT an idSoftware fan.

Some people are so stupid. When I buy a product I should get the full product.

Only if you buy the product for what it's worthhh.

If new Jeeps came with a free pizza, would you complain if you didn't get a pizza when you buy it used?

Yes, I would actually.

Meh. It is what it is. I don't like it, and I'm getting it new. I get both sides of the coin. But I think instead of doing it the 'pass way' - maybe they could do it with a pass, but DLC is cheaper if you have the pass. Cannot get a 'shortcut' or 'make up' for it - you either have it, or you don't. The customer gets the game, and they could end up selling more DLC - which could be more profitable than the game itself....

Give em' the razor, sell them the blades.