Why do we hate those who sing pop music?

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:23 am

I've always said, "All you have to do to be famous is learn 3 chords and act like an idiot".
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DarkGypsy
 
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:18 pm

It isn't catchy though, it's annoying.... very very annoying



I don't expect there to be metal on the radio all the time (as much as I would like that) I do however want there to be decent music advertised.

Most people from my experience don't even look for other music. They just listen to what they are spoon fed by the radios and assume it's the best music gets
Finding good music is hard. Last FM results in me going way off, youtube has given me no sucess either.

E.g I listen to Rammstein, closest I found to them was Megaherz, which still isnt close enough for me.

Cant blame people not looking much, there is so much crap to wade through.
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Kelsey Hall
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:35 am

Finding good music is hard. Last FM results in me going way off, youtube has given me no sucess either.

E.g I listen to Rammstein, closest I found to them was Megaherz, which still isnt close enough for me.

Cant blame people not looking much, there is so much crap to wade through.
You like Rammstein. What about this. Not into industrial myself but I came across these on my searches over the years, do any of these interest you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMzWysnhr5c
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75bj8IN7FnM
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRVmV7NqIE
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLAjL18nEHw
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zedQyL6XLPk
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Jack Walker
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:53 am

Now can someone explain to me what the [censored] this is about http://www.youtube.c...oxDhJSw&ob=av3e. I have been forced to listem to this crap at work and I really would like to know why people like it?

It's shallow, egotistical, fake, boring, sounds attrocious (imo opinion of course), there is so little music actually present ........ and he's got a face I'd like to punch.

Yet over 100 million people have watched it.

I think people like you and me find it hard to understand music like this because it's intended for a completely different audience, who want different things. The song you linked to wasn't intended to be meaningful, complex or intelligent. It was intended to be catchy, and to have a good beat, so that people can dance to it. You may not find it catchy but lots of people do (actually, me included). People like it precisely because it's simple, predictable and easy to dance to. Not everybody is looking for depth or timlessness in music, and to hold a song like that to those standards isn't pointing out that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and everybody is stupid and sheepish, it's (to carry on an unneccesarily confusing metaphor) missing the point that this is a nudist beach.

I don't dislike pop because it's popular to dislike it, I dislike it because I really don't like the "limp" music it contains. I dislike hip hop because the culture it promotes is wrong and yes I do believe such music brainashes people. There is more gun crime and knife crime nowadys since black gangsta music has been on the airwaves than there was before it. People are quick to blame movies and games for criminal acts but rap has as much if not more important impact because it is a cultural thing
You often complain about hip-hop on these forums, and your argument is always rubbish. Some hip hop does promote a nihilistic and violent culture (although no moreso than some metal) but to generalize the whole genre to this is ignorant. Even gangsta rap is often intended to be tongue in cheek (why is it that no one accuses death metal singers of being serial killers?) and actually, I could spend a couple of paragraphs defending other parts of the culture too if I felt like it, but I don't need to, because hip hop isn't just guns and bling and hoes, and in fact there is an equally large counter culture in hip hop that directly opposes the gangsta side. Not to mention a huge amount that has nothing to do with it.

And to suggest that nobody blames music for knife and gun crime is just being blind to the facts. Ever since rock and roll (and actually, before that; the waltz was blamed for declining sixual morality back in the day) popular music has been the target of conservatives, and it still is today along side video games and movies. Every time a kid gets stabbed in London four people get called on Newsnight and discuss Dizzee Rascal.

Guess you've never been on twitter then, pretty sure majority of it's users are big fans of popular music.
Not taking anything away from your point, music is meant to be diverse, but chart music sells the most, therefore it's pretty clear that it's most popular.
:happy:
Actually I imagine that even if I was on twitter I wouldn't know much about him, for the same reason that I don't hear about him on Facebook. I'm selective with my friends and the people I follow.
We should petition all radio stations to play songs like Crazy train on a regular basis.
Two birds, one stone.
(Most) Radio stations don't play music because their listeners want them to, they play it because they're paid to by the record labels that promote it. And actually, that probably goes for Crazy Train on classic rock stations or Kerrang as much as for any other pop music.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:25 pm

Not to mention a huge amount that has nothing to do with it.

Not all of it is, I will admit that much. Alot of what is on radio however does put across that attitude and it makes people like me probably ignorant to the "better" side of it.
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Colton Idonthavealastna
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:10 am

Not all of it is, I will admit that much. Alot of what is on radio however does put across that attitude and it makes people like me probably ignorant to the "better" side of it.
That's no excuse to carry on that ignorance after someone points it out.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:21 am

You like Rammstein. What about this. Not into industrial myself but I came across these on my searches over the years, do any of these interest you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMzWysnhr5c
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75bj8IN7FnM
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRVmV7NqIE
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLAjL18nEHw
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zedQyL6XLPk
Im picky, but 2 of those have potential. Will look for more songs before making up my mind.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:22 pm

What it comes down to for me is I like Authenticity in my music. Pop music and modern Rap sounds to me like it was written by the record company and manufactured to sell. I understand that the music industry is a business, but I also feel that music is an art. In pop music it's very obvious that the songs are crafted by the industry rather than by the artist. The result is a catchy 2 or 3 minute radio cut. However I prefer something deeper with more character and more art.

Lady Gaga in my opinion began as a corporate project, but then she made enough money that the record company is now given her the freedom to make authentic art. I realized this after talking with my sister (huge Gaga fan). My sister shared with me some newer Gaga stuff compared to her earlier works. Gaga has matured as an artist and become more authentic. I am still not wild about her persona or her music, but at least the newer stuff sounds respectable and real.

Thats just one example.

In short I despise pop music because authenticity is very important to me. I know [censored] when I hear it and I find it insulting.
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Ludivine Poussineau
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:59 am

Pop music and modern Rap sounds to me like it was written by the record company and manufactured to sell.

mainstream hiphop*
also, many hiphop-artists use beats from producers, and it's always been this way in the genre. the artists usually just rap
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Lew.p
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:01 am

why you dislike em?

1) your jealous
2) your jealous
3) your jealous

Ah, sounds like the standard argument of 14 year old girls whenever someone dislikes something they like. :biggrin:
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Neil
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:39 pm

Actually I imagine that even if I was on twitter I wouldn't know much about him, for the same reason that I don't hear about him on Facebook. I'm selective with my friends and the people I follow.

It trends every day, along with other annoying fan-girl like things such as One Direction and Twilight. :(
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Aaron Clark
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:40 am

It trends every day, along with other annoying fan-girl like things such as One Direction and Twilight. :(
I don't know what that means because I don't use twitter, but you don't have to follow trends do you?
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:12 pm

Ah, sounds like the standard argument of 14 year old girls whenever someone dislikes something they like. :biggrin:

it's because parents and teachers think they are protecting kids by shoving it down their throats, critique/disagreement=JEALOUSY
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Jaki Birch
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:47 am

it's because parents and teachers think they are protecting kids by shoving it down their throats, critique/disagreement=JEALOUSY
I think you're just jealous of them.
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Kellymarie Heppell
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:21 am

I don't know what that means because I don't use twitter, but you don't have to follow trends do you?
A trend is something that a lot of people are talking about, they're literally just listed at the side of every page. Unfortunately.
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Jessica Phoenix
 
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:37 pm

A trend is something that a lot of people are talking about, they're literally just listed at the side of every page. Unfortunately.
Well my point still stands - I probably wouldn't read them.
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