Sue Happy Culture

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:11 pm

Anybody heard the one about the guy breaking into someone's house, falling through the ceiling into the kitchen, landing on a knife, and successfully suing?

Nope, but I Googled it and one of the first results was a quote from Liar Liar:

Mr. Reede, several years ago a friend of mine had a burglar on her roof, a burglar. He fell through the kitchen skylight, landed on a cutting board, on a butcher's knife, cutting his leg. The burglar sued my friend, he sued my friend. And because of guys like you *he won*. My friend had to pay the burglar $6,000. Is that justice?

Edit: pasted quote went grey. :/
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:29 am

Nope, but I Googled it and one of the first results was a quote from Liar Liar:

Mr. Reede, several years ago a friend of mine had a burglar on her roof, a burglar. He fell through the kitchen skylight, landed on a cutting board, on a butcher's knife, cutting his leg. The burglar sued my friend, he sued my friend. And because of guys like you *he won*. My friend had to pay the burglar $6,000. Is that justice?

Edit: pasted quote went grey. :/
Lulz. Must be an urban myth.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:55 pm

News like this make me proud to be European.

Even now that the EU's signed up to... drum roll... ACTA? :tongue:

Anybody heard the one about the guy breaking into someone's house, falling through the ceiling into the kitchen, landing on a knife, and successfully suing?

That's a bit extreme but technically you can sue someone if they could have or should have foreseen that some protection they put in place could injure a trespasser, and the person whose property the trespasser is trying to access has failed to provide adequate warning. That's why you have to, by law, have lighting bolts plastered to electrified fencing, etc.

I know, for instance, that if you have skylights and you haven't adequately informed people of this fact, and they climb onto your roof and fall through, you are liable. This would apply to trespassers, too.

Some of this doesn't feel quite right, does it? Sometimes [censored] just happens. But there are specific "formulas" and "tests" for what is and what is not a legitimate claim, and if you're going to allow (what feels like) a legitimate claim through, you also have to allow (what feels like) an illegitimate claim through, because otherwise the law becomes meaningless.

Whether an illegitimate claim will succeed, though, is another thing entirely.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:57 am

When it gets to the point when lawn mower munufaturers have to put do not place hands, feet or HEAD!! under deck. it has gone too far. And some silly git did that!!

O ya the amount of stupidity out there is beyond contempt and common sense just goes right out the window. Still remember that case here in Florida where that idiot teen decided to imitate that stunt from [censored] jumping off a condo to the pool below. Well he missed the pool, hit nice solid concrete deck, and broke his legs not too surprisingly. Well instead of the parents being responsible saying their kid was an idiot they decided to hire a lawyer to sue [censored] and the people that make it.

The fact TV shows have to put 5 to 15 warnings in the show saying "don't try this at home numb nuts" is kind of sad. Inbreeding has really diminished the capacity for common sense thoughts imho.



There's been quite a bit of legislation at the national and state level to deal with these frivolous cases, which were pretty prevalent throughout the 1990s and early 2000s. Most of them are dismissed nowadays, but some holes in the law still need to be filled. You can be assured the money-loving, corrupt people will take advantage of those gaps until they're filled.

Heh like trying to use a fishnet to patch a leaky dam it just doesn't do any good. We really need a sledge hammer to whack some sense into these morons as of late. Personally I abdicate the Common Sense bill where if you do some stupid messed up crap to yourself its your own dang fault.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:28 pm

http://www.facesoflawsuitabuse.org/
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:54 am

You know what this whole orange juice thing reminds me of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:03 pm

I have yet to find anything that tops the mom who sued McDonalds for not labeling their coffee as 'hot'. Even if it is being served much hotter than usual, its still ridiculous. ALWAYS temp test your coffee.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:50 pm

I have yet to find anything that tops the mom who sued McDonalds for not labeling their coffee as 'hot'. Even if it is being served much hotter than usual, its still ridiculous. ALWAYS temp test your coffee.
No, no. Much like in the latest TES games, people need to have their hand held.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:18 pm

If the "svck it up!" and "This world has gone mad!" people where in a minority, then you wouldn't get these stupid articles. It's easier to write articles that rile people up than it is to get peoples attention with a well researched and thoughtfully written article on these subjects.

Around Christmas time you get the "Liberals gone mad!" grinch stories, blackouts and distasters always get articles about a child boom 9 months later with all the boredom six (I think they might have stopped that one at least), you get coverage about one ultra lenient judgement in a court case when the vast majority of judgements are pretty reasonable and satisfying to impartial observers (I can't speak for the US system though)

We oughta start suing News and opinion writers when they misrepresent the facts.

Edit: Sorry guys, I didn't realise how old this thread was:(
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:13 am

If the "svck it up!" and "This world has gone mad!" people where in a minority, then you wouldn't get these stupid articles. It's easier to write articles that rile people up than it is to get peoples attention with a well researched and thoughtfully written article on these subjects.

Around Christmas time you get the "Liberals gone mad!" grinch stories, blackouts and distasters always get articles about a child boom 9 months later with all the boredom six (I think they might have stopped that one at least), you get coverage about one ultra lenient judgement in a court case when the vast majority of judgements are pretty reasonable and satisfying to impartial observers (I can't speak for the US system though)

We oughta start suing News and opinion writers when they misrepresent the facts.

Edit: Sorry guys, I didn't realise how old this thread was:(
I don't think a few days really matters much, quite honestly.

But I wanted to address your post because I think your sentence right before your edit pretty aptly describes why there's such a sue happy culture in the first place.

People's social skills and tolerance have plummeted so bad, along with a drastic increase of social laziness, they need a far more powerful third party to take care of an issue they should be able to do on their own. This person may dish out the facts, and they are free to make an opinion about it all they wish, or what you call "misrepresent". The indication that a person wants to sue them for having an opinion pretty much shows the inability of that person to deal with the fact that people are different with varying opinion on what the facts are (people broadly tend to use the term "facts" to describe personal opinion), so they want someone else to deal with it for them. This is the enabler for that type of culture, social avoidance, aversion.. it's dismaying.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:55 pm

I don't think a few days really matters much, quite honestly.

But I wanted to address your post because I think your sentence right before your edit pretty aptly describes why there's such a sue happy culture in the first place.

People's social skills and tolerance have plummeted so bad, along with a drastic increase of social laziness, they need a far more powerful third party to take care of an issue they should be able to do on their own. This person may dish out the facts, and they are free to make an opinion about it all they wish, or what you call "misrepresent". The indication that a person wants to sue them for having an opinion pretty much shows the inability of that person to deal with the fact that people are different with varying opinion on what the facts are (people broadly tend to use the term "facts" to describe personal opinion), so they want someone else to deal with it for them. This is the enabler for that type of culture, social avoidance, aversion.. it's dismaying.

Can you try and explain your point again. Are you defending opinion passed of as news? Who are the enablers?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:05 am

People's social skills and tolerance have plummeted so bad, along with a drastic increase of social laziness, they need a far more powerful third party to take care of an issue they should be able to do on their own. This person may dish out the facts, and they are free to make an opinion about it all they wish, or what you call "misrepresent". The indication that a person wants to sue them for having an opinion pretty much shows the inability of that person to deal with the fact that people are different with varying opinion on what the facts are (people broadly tend to use the term "facts" to describe personal opinion), so they want someone else to deal with it for them. This is the enabler for that type of culture, social avoidance, aversion.. it's dismaying.
I agree with a lot if not all of this. I mostly blame Political Correctness. I mean, it's come to the point you can't even say things like 'black person' (In America at least) on the news without someone going 'It's 'African-American' ' which in itself is 'racist' because it assumes a black person you meet is a black American with ancestry from Africa. But anyway, I just hate PC because it's built up this overly sensitive society of manchildren to afraid to speak their piece lest them butthurt coddled person screams to their lawyer they were 'discriminated against'.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:26 am

I agree with a lot if not all of this. I mostly blame Political Correctness. I mean, it's come to the point you can't even say things like 'black person' (In America at least) on the news without someone going 'It's 'African-American' ' which in itself is 'racist' because it assumes a black person you meet is a black American with ancestry from Africa. But anyway, I just hate PC because it's built up this overly sensitive society of manchildren to afraid to speak their piece lest them butthurt coddled person screams to their lawyer they were 'discriminated against'.

Yeah, that example has confounded me as something that seems essentially far more offensive than the terms it replaces: there've been examples where people have been designated "African Americans" when they have absolutely no connection to either. I suppose it's more bizarre than actually offensive and it makes you wonder what on earth was going on in the mind of whoever conjured it up, if anything.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:20 am

I agree with a lot if not all of this. I mostly blame Political Correctness. I mean, it's come to the point you can't even say things like 'black person' (In America at least) on the news without someone going 'It's 'African-American' ' which in itself is 'racist' because it assumes a black person you meet is a black American with ancestry from Africa. But anyway, I just hate PC because it's built up this overly sensitive society of manchildren to afraid to speak their piece lest them butthurt coddled person screams to their lawyer they were 'discriminated against'.
CNN has a segment called "Black in America". Where exactly are you getting the idea that it's not acceptable to say "black person"?

This whole "anti-political correctness" stance is so much more annoying than what has apparently spawned it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:25 pm

CNN has a segment called "Black in America". Where exactly are you getting the idea that it's not acceptable to say "black person"?

This whole "anti-political correctness" stance is so much more annoying than what has apparently spawned it.
Well that's fine and dandy, but I'm speaking from a general POV. I mean sure maybe one segment out of a single news broadcast across a myriad of news stations is an example to prove me wrong for one second. But in general, here where I live, most of the time my news says 'African-American' this that or the the other. Honestly, I don't go crusading against PC because you really can't do much but gripe about it. I just speak my opinion. Just because I'm against something doesnt inherently mean I'm so crusader for whatever is at hand.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:54 am

I've met literally no one, and have never heard of any one saying that any of the stories that the 'political correctness gone mad!'/Daily Heil brigage bang on about as being true. These people are often racist or homophobic in the first place anyway.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:56 pm

I don't think a few days really matters much, quite honestly.

But I wanted to address your post because I think your sentence right before your edit pretty aptly describes why there's such a sue happy culture in the first place.

People's social skills and tolerance have plummeted so bad, along with a drastic increase of social laziness, they need a far more powerful third party to take care of an issue they should be able to do on their own. This person may dish out the facts, and they are free to make an opinion about it all they wish, or what you call "misrepresent". The indication that a person wants to sue them for having an opinion pretty much shows the inability of that person to deal with the fact that people are different with varying opinion on what the facts are (people broadly tend to use the term "facts" to describe personal opinion), so they want someone else to deal with it for them. This is the enabler for that type of culture, social avoidance, aversion.. it's dismaying.
That sounds like you're saying, "Now now dear, there's no such thing as a wrong opinion!" :tongue:. What I take issue with is that newspapers, for example, split things into news pieces and opinion pieces, and I would expect (ignoring my knowledge of reality) the news pieces to be trying to stay as factual and truthful as possible, with journalists using the opinion pieces to let their perspectives out. Unfortunately, these days most media outlets have one agenda or another they're pushing, and very few seem to be interested in actually informing people rather than trying to manipulate people or pandering to the lowest common denominator :(.

I agree with a lot if not all of this. I mostly blame Political Correctness. I mean, it's come to the point you can't even say things like 'black person' (In America at least) on the news without someone going 'It's 'African-American' ' which in itself is 'racist' because it assumes a black person you meet is a black American with ancestry from Africa. But anyway, I just hate PC because it's built up this overly sensitive society of manchildren to afraid to speak their piece lest them butthurt coddled person screams to their lawyer they were 'discriminated against'.
I'm imagining someone trying to call a highland Scotsman (who happens to be black) "African-American"... it would be a hit on YouTube, I'm sure :laugh:.

'Course, there are plenty of Australian Aborigines who would go right off at anyone who did that to them, since they as a people have spent the last couple of centuries being systematically wiped out (that, by the way, is neither opinion nor exaggeration, it's honest -if horrible- history. There was even a government department with the responsibility of doing so :().
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:06 am

I'm white, but I'm more African than 99 percent of the "African-americans" in america. Why? My family has been in africa since the 1680s
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:05 pm

I didn't see notice anyone saying this when I scrolled through the thread, so I figured I would point it out.

The "Summary" that PredatorX gave in the OP is [censored]/sensationalist. The prisoner was forced to pull his own tooth out because he was refused dental care, which is where the case is coming from.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/25/10233835-man-spends-2-years-in-solitary-after-dwi-arrest?google_editors_picks=true
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