They are keeping up to date, true, but they can still update without changing the coding dramatically.

Well we really don't know if they changed the code dramatically after every update, compared from 2007 to now then yes it has changed greatly but the changes would be minor after each dialy update. So Devs can keep up with changes.

It's not a coding limitation, it's a hardware.

Over time (Which is something that's hard to test) the game becomes clogged up with information, Testers weren't probably aiming at having a one playthrough of over so many hours in one save.

No, I really didn't say anything like that at all. I only said it's what I expect will happen, AND you've completely misrepresented what I've said, and I was very clear. Twice. I'm not saying they should give up on PS3 at all, not in any way, shape or form. What I am saying is that I BELIEVE what they WILL do is not release the content in DLC form now, instead they will give themselves more time to get it, and all the future content working properly FOR THE PS3, then just release a GotY edition.

Nowhere in that does it say that they SHOULD do it, that I agree with it, or that they should give up on the PS3, I am purely speculating about a possible turn of events, and how it will ultimately lead to the PS3 players having access to the content. Personally, if this were to happen, I wouldn't class this as screwing the PS3 crowd, as you would still get the content. It's not ideal, but if it happened, it would be because it's the best solution they could work.

Again, if you're going to rant, at least take a moment to take in what I've said rather than to misrepresent what I am saying. I'm an Xbox guy who is sympathetic to the concerns of the PS3 players, and you still want to tell me I am suggesting they should give up on you? Really? Seriously man, not cool.

It's good to see support from the players of the Xbox but if Beth made us PS3 users buy the GOTY it would make things way worst, PS3 players want equal treatment that means we want the DLCs to come out as close to each other as they can not a whole year and haveing to rebuy the whole game

I don't disagree, I'm just presenting one possible scenario (one which I personally do think will occur). Though it is very small consolation, I would say that the best way to have DLC is all in one big lump, and the GotY edition will give it to you for cheaper than if you bought it separately.

It's not much, but even a little positive from the mess is better than none at all.

If that was the outcome and it worked just like the other tow platfourms and not near blow up my PS3 then yes it would be nice I suppose.

This I am confused about. What benefits, other than not seeing the PSU (which you can easily hide behind the console), does this have over an external one? It keeps one of the hottest components out of the console, and if the PSU dies, you don't have to send in the console to get it fixed.

Personally I don't like lugging around the PSU when I go to a LAN party. (I used to have a 360, and I remember this was always a pain)

Why does there have to be a benefit when the context was one of asthetics, you opened with "Toaster" so I chose the ugly external power brick, simples.

In a living room t's usually less convenient to have an extra brick to hide among the other cabling, if it is a strong heat source then a tangle of cables around it isn't good and if an internal PSU is well desogned then it doesn't lead to an excessive amount of retained heat.

Good point on the advantage of replaceability, I have heard of a few XBox PSU's going south so I agree it's less to send, not had a PSU problem myself but I have a spare PS3 if I need it.

Back to topic (ish) on other comments:-

The game is as playable on PS3 now as the other platforms - Certainly is since Bethesda gave the other platforms a bunch of bugs to level the playing field, nice.


LOLWUT!

So dev's ignored the information on how long players invested in characters from Morrowind and Oblivion, not thinking many players would rack up 100's of hours in a character? Come on.

Unoptimised code ported onto a system that isn't tailored to specifically use a platforms resources efficiently will always struggle, unless Bethesda can or is allowed to do that then any DLC added to PS3 will have issues as it's supported by a rickety vanilla base with added "Fixes".

For the next game rather than hiding a poor example of a game until release and then trying to play catch-up as lies and half truth's come to light. Bethesda should drop the PS3/4 unless it will do a proper job or outsource the port to those who can.

well while xbox and pc get to play the dlc we get to play the waiting game. first we'll wait for the 30 days exclusive. then we'll wait for the announcement of hearthfire on pc, while waiting for the announced ps3 delay for heathfire. isn't this game fun?
on a serious note with hearthfire ending the xbox exclustivity do you guys think beth will continue it for the other dlc's? i mean i do not think microsoft will be stupid enough to extend it because ps3 didn't even get dawnguard so there paying money for a exclusive to not get it onto the pc for a month, which won't do much since pc skyrim players are mostly modder's, elitist's, or like steam sales.

Beth will continue to grind the PS3 users under her heel as that is clearly the only way she operates.

More than that, they stomp on, us spit at us and [censored]s right in the ass.

Even if there's no contract, I doubt PS3 will get it the same time as Xbox/PC.

I'm hear to warn poeple not to buy the game for the PS3.

you know, it would be great if those of us that aren't xbox fans would get something for being made to wait so patiently while you 'fix' these problems. by the time all this tweaking is finished, it'll be time for the DLC bundle package to come out. I would like you all to know that should that happen, and should it come to PS3, I will NOT be buying it. In turn, I will promptly go and sell anything bethesda i happen to have, and will boycott all future purchases from you. With so many interesting games out there today, why wouldn't i just go a different route and play something else from a company that I know has a proven track record? With the economy as bad as it is, were all trying to stretch our money as far as possible, and we don't need to be wasting our money on a developer that clearly favors another system.

And to all those xboxers wandering in here, no one is forcing you to read these. It says on the room link that its PS3 DLC ISSUES. The only reason you'd come in here is to troll. period. If you want to buy an inferior system, by all means, go ahead. But don't hold that against me when a developer has a problem with my system later on.

actually the first two dlc (hearthfire and dawnguard) comes first to xbox

Except that's not true as at least one of us, me, doesn't give a flying poo about PS3 vs Xbox wars. I like Xbox, I hate PS3, but I don't grind it in people's faces, I don't hate someone because they choose to play their games on a different machine, and I'm certainly not here just to troll. Period. I'm trying to show some solidarity, as I sympathize with the PS3 players as I want everyone to have this content equally, no matter the platform. I don't even like the exclusivity deal.

You're accusing Xbox players of just coming in here to troll, and yet all you're doing is perpetuating a redundant console war that means nothing, you're not really any more or less guilty than anyone else, regardless of which platform they use. Seriously dude, if you have a problem, and no one else can help, and if you can find them, then try and contact, THE MOD TEAM.......with any complaints. Otherwise just block, ignore or report people. Carrying on a pointless war, not doing anybody any favours.

I'm honestly more worried about Hearthfire not happening on my PS3 than Dawnguard as HF looks to be the more save-file memory-intensive expansion. If Dawnguard is a problem with larger save files... how is an expansion ALL about creating custom homes across Skyrim going to go over! =(

I really REALLY hope this expansion makes it to PS3! =(

Oh man... I've been wondering the same thing about building a Dwemer-style home! I sure hope so!

I doubt we would be building ancient ruins, not even the Nords can build them, they just move into ones that were already there.

I'm going to plat the game on PS3, and then i'll sell it. Maybe i'll get the GOTY edition, but it seems very unlikely.