Are you really that blind? Well, kudos to IGN, they're gained a convert. Don't you see that they see a HUGE market share of disatisfied players all looking to rage? All looking for any morsel of new that supports their rage? It's like watching liberal media turn the spotlight on conservative controversies and vice versa. There's no news, there's no news. THERE. IS. NO. NEWS. Let's not forget they FLEW, rabid spittle flying to "misquote" that whole Dawnguard "we have not announced" thing. They're not "on your side", they want your hits, YOUR support, YOUR market share. There's no other reasonable reason for irresponsible reporting, even if it IS "only" the gaming community.

Tell us something that we don't know or already know but we just go like this
Fan:
Bethesda:
Fan: someday when i get my hands on those Bethesda screw ups

*one day at E3 or whatever place you go to you see Peter Hines*

Fan: Are you Peter Hines?

Peter Hines: Yes I am

Fan:...........

tell me folks is this true or what lmao!

Not to single you out, but this seems to be the crux of this entire thread. This forum population "wants information" so much so that they feel "entitled to know what is going on." So the people in this thread seem to be in favor of an interview because they think it will provide them with any amount of insight or update to the questions they desperately want answered. But there is no difference between Pete Hines saying "I have nothing new to update" to a regular twitter user or to an IGN interviewer. Bethesda isn't going to give interviews when they aren't ready to reveal new information. Just the prospect of an interview does not mean Bethesda is now ready to reveal info. Info will be revealed when they are ready to reveal it, that is how it goes.

So...instead of noticing that something definitely isn't right here with Bethesda and their PR, people would rather focus on bashing IGN?

lol ok.

This is IGN trying to get more hits on its site for advertising funding. Nothing more, nothing less. They asked for an interview and were told no, and now they are acting like a 5 year old told that they cant have ice-cream. There is no news in this at all. IGN is known to be full of crap, make up stories, give "paid for" reviews, and generally talk smack about anything in the gaming sphere to get more money from advertising.

Everyone else is just getting caught up in this temper tantrum. Dont fall for it.


PS; It was IGN that caused the early turd-storm with Dawnguard, by catagorically stating it would be on PS3 directly after the 360 exclusivity was up. Then when it was up and not out yet, they did it again by stating catagorically it would be released "shortly" for PS3.

Yes Beth deserve flak for not having it on PS3 by now, but the whole issue of a "release date" for it is IGN's fault for whipping up expectations with a flagrant lie. Its why Beth had to respond directly on twitter and on BethBlog by calling them out on it, because it was such a bare faced lie and giving Bethesda a lot of grief because of it. Is it any wonder they dont want to speak to IGN?

This.

Bethesda should let the programmers handle PR and Pete Hines can start programming, maybe they'll get somewhere.

Spot on, mate. The "media" always says "the public has a right to know" and wields that as a hammer to butt into everything, as if they were entitled to do so. This is just another case of the "media" (laughingly so-called) throwing a tantrum because they didn't get what they feel "entitled" to, like a five-year-old wanting candy and being told "no".

Pete Hines being disconcerted and angry makes me very satisfied.....

Spot on.

Why are people defending Pete Hines? He called IGN out to say they lied in the interview (lets be serious, they didn't Bethesda doesn't like being called out on their incompetence) so IGN called him up so they could correct any mistakes they made. By Hines refusing the interview all they have done is confirmed everything that IGN has said, they gave PS3 users a lazy port and made them pay full price for not just an inferior product- but a broken product.


If Pete Hines wants to protect any of Bethesda reputation- he should of accepted the interview which IGN offered to correct any mistakes they made. Honestly this is just another bad episode in Bethesda PR towards PS3 users, nothing to be cheering about.

It's not so much people are defending Hines as much as they're not defending IGN.

IGN hardly has the best reputation for objective reporting and have been known for misquoting, outright omitting parts of sentences to support their line and weren't they the ones who helped blow the 'No TESV, the series is dead' rumour all out of proportion to the point where people were actually believing it?

Pete Hines can't do an interview because he would be unable to answer the questions truthfully, his view being "Skyrim on PS3 works just fine and you can't convince me otherwise".
If that really was the case then why are there so many upset and angry PS3 users?

Pointed questions would get asked such as "Is it true that Bethesda released Skyrim on PS3 knowing it would perform poorly?", "Do you think the PS3 users have been treated equally" All of which would be corporate suicide to answer so it would be pointless. Throw in all the obvious questions regarding performance, missed input events, broken quests, save bloat and about how the patches were supposed to "Fix" issues but turned out to just postpone the effects. The problem being the position in the face of such questioning being indefensible.

Yes IGN is basically a tabloid for the gaming press and should be viewed as such, they may lose any future Zenimax advertising , possibly think it's worth it for the publicity of the extra hits because of the story but genuine "Caring" from any corporation beyond generating a consistant revenue stream is pretty rare these days.

Everything is moot anyway as there is nothing we can really do to influence what happens in these things, all we can do is watch and comment.

There is someone saying Pete Hines deserves a High Five and a round of applause for refusing the interview, yes he has this right but to accuse them of lying then run scared? That's nothing to cheer about- this is one of the very few times I'm going to side with IGN and applaud them for calling them out. Even the Tabloids got one right every now and then it seems.

I would normally never say this, but I personally think Hines should be fired. The man's job is to actually speak to others, give explanations and answer questions. And all he does is either say nothing, lie and make things up or say only good things but never mentions the bad things. Anyone here could do a better job than him. If there is ever a gaming poll about the worst PR person in the gaming history, Hines wins for sure.

Actually admiting you did something wrong will most often result in gaining respect from those who you speak to. Because people will say "He or she had the guts, the respect to at least tell us". Saying nothing however or keep on lying is far worse, every company should know this by now.

Bethesda did their little advertising stint for Hearthfire, there is no news so no need for any further interviews, why all the fuss if they turned down a chance to be interviewed. It is up to the developer and the publisher if they want to speak to the media, not the other way around. And it seems from the comment they may have got interviews before and not perhaps done then right thing with them.

The problem is that the game development time consist of lots of people with diffident skills, most people work with grapic, models, level design and scripting.
Only a few work on the actual program, skyrim.exe on pc and it's libraries, even fewer has skills of developing on PS3, on the other hand everybody can test but testing has to be done on a PS3 developer console to get any useful results. Add that this bug is hard to replicate, software developer myself and know that hard to replicate errors is the same as have your car in and out of the garage for a long time.

The unofficial patch fixes a lots of problem, but mostly script errors and minor glitches. Memory problems is an entirely other issue. Not sure how Skyrim works here but know that Oblivion keept track of relation to all named npc and factions, it also keept track of everything you dropped. Yes if you dropped an item from inventory at level 1 you could find it back at level 40 one year in gametime, on the other hand dungeons are not keept in memory then outside however it's probably something who use memory.

I'm baffled as to how this is about Dawnguard - it seems to be about Pete Hines or about IGN. So it seems pretty off topic to me.