Perhaps recruiting more Dawnguard and have them patrol e cities to beef up the defenses? Maybe even some Vigilant help....even though they got their A** handed to them.

It shouldn't have been a mod. If Bethesda was really trying to "immerse us in an invasion" they should have gone all the way and let us actually fight back instead of endlessly killing vamps to no avail.

It's Bethesda's committment to handholding and total lack of consequences. People might get upset if they couldn't be a vampire hunter and a vampire lord at the same time so that has to be built in so people don't actually have to make a decision with a binding consequence. But they can experience the thrill of their towns being potentially decimated depending on their particular experience and apparently if they don't like that they're a bunch of whiners.

We cant rely on devs to fix the problem they made for us? So we have to resort to some artificial hoop-jumping to keep our games from breaking?

The anger from named NPC's being killed is anger that can be channeled into killing more vampires.

I have not read through the entire thread, so forgive me if my 2 cents echoes the sentiments of others.

First and foremost, I really have been enjoying Dawnguard. After I installed it, I loaded up my very first character (a khajiit werewolf lvl 51 at the time) and got to work tying up some loose ends before diving into the whole story. In my travels, I have encountered random werewolves, vampires, hell hounds, and attacks in towns. The first 2 times were really fun and ended rather quickly...

Then I went to Riften. There was a giant free for all in the middle of the market. By the time I showed up to assist the hapless guards, 3 or 4 NPCs were already lying face down in a pool of their own blood. I didn't like it, so I reloaded a previous save and did it again. Same result. I decided to just abandon my trip to Riften for a while and level up my werewolf perks (which I really enjoy). Eventually made it back without a big old fight. Visited a friend in the Bee and Barb, left the bar and there's a huge fight going on again. 5 attempts later, and I managed to save everybody. It was both exciting and frustrating.

I'm really conflicted with this. Many people have already pointed out how awesome and possibly horrible these town attacks can be. On one hand, it makes the world feel more dangerous, which I think is a good thing. I can be an awesome dovahkiin, and rid the world of dragons...and now vampires. The people need me.

But I can't run all the way across town to save merchants that provide many services that I might need. I love the fact that they are frail and die in 1 or 2 whacks, they should be squishy. If they die, that's cool. But what is not cool is that eventually, if things continue as they do, who am I going to trade with me or provide me with radiant quests?

The towns are already are populated at the lowest levels of believability, and losing the few named NPCs just makes the whole idea of Skyrim a moot point. Why save Skyrim from Dragons and a Civil War? Random Vampires will eventually wipe everybody out and I'm left with a bunch of generic guards and a bunch of Louis Letrush clones.

I don't know how feasible it is, but I would really like something to be done about it. If Belethor and Sigurd become vampire food, I'm cool with that. Just give me some replacements. Let a bunch of in game days go by and eventually Belethor's store is taken over by his sister. I really don't know but somehow somebody new has to come in and provide the services. I don't care if they are generic; half the npc's share the same dialog/voices anyway. Just code in a random name generator and it's good. Heck don't give them names. Guards don't have names. But don't take away my ability to role play and trade.

TL;DR: Vampire Attacks are Awesome and Terrible. Let people die, but Bethesda should provide should us with replacement NPC's after a period of in-game time.

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Oh God Benster, my eyes hurt. Edit your post and make the letters bigger if you wouldn't mind

This is the most ignorant post I have ever read.

I fully agree. And these kind of posts that he wrote are supposed to convince us that Vampire attacks are normal in this game....

You know im sure there have been plenty of men in life who have been put in a similar situation as yours right now. They feel that life has turned against them, that there is something broken about it, or perhaps the enemy they are facing can not be beaten...or that simply life is to hard.

I'm sure in war, men have had a hard time in coming up with ways in trying to fight an enemy that was unpredictable and very dangerous. However...eventually, many men were able to pave there own path, and use the tools they have been given in life, as well as tactics to solve there problems, including being able to defeat a dangerous unpredictable enemy.

Just like you, you can use pickpocketing, or use tactics like not freerunning into towns/cities, or when its dark and your coming up to a city/town, wait a bit, to make sure vamps don't attack. Or try to enter cities/towns during the day.

So be a man, stop complaning about something you can't fix, instead use what already has been given to you and face the enemy like a brave rational, logical, man would do.

I get where you're coming from. Perhaps Beth is more inclined, if you can show how fun it is.

Maybe someone can create this mini defense game (mod) and use bandit city raids.

In real life, we don't have vampires depopulating towns, that never see their population change.

I'm really conflicted about what to do. Part of me wants to uninstall the DLC and the other half wants to see the new stuff.

I get really attached to my NPCS, and I've heard that people are having theirs wiped out without any clue it has even happened so cannot prevent it.

I know that people like this stuff, which is nice for them. But not so nice for the people who dont. Having this feature ruins the game for some people, but not having the feature would not ruin anyones game.

You're trying to pass ignorance off as wisdom, and justify imcompetence.

So they're meant to try to mod their xbox even though that is illegal?

As they say. Do not judge a book by it cover. In this case, play it for yourself, not for your friend, neighbor, etc. But yourself. See for yourself. Then judge. It is kind of hard to judge something you only read about and never experienced. Play it if you have it. That does not mean your experiences are going to be like anyone elses for they are not. None are the same.

These posts are like talking to a wall ... Maybe we should make a Vampire Attack on Bethesda HQ (it was a joke).

Joining Stormcloaks => Whiterun sacked. A good, large, real tangible consequence of a genuine choice between opposing political factions.

Get Dawnguard => Ghost towns. A devastating consequence for playing Dawnguard.

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