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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:42 am

I got my hunting license because I want to go hunting with my father sometime. We were going to go deer hunting last fall but due to personal family matters we didn't get the time to go. We are going to try this fall for deer and turkey. I have had to shoot at bears before, but I didn't shoot to hurt them, just to scare them.
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Nathan Barker
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:25 pm

I caught my dogs tail in the door once when she was sneaking past me and I didn't notice. She yelped and gave me a big sorrowful stare. I'm a monster.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:01 pm

I ran over a snake by accident one time with my bicycle, and there were a few other times I tried shooting a bird with a bb gun, but I don't think it was successful.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:42 am

I caught my dogs tail in the door once when she was sneaking past me and I didn't notice. She yelped and gave me a big sorrowful stare. I'm a monster.

You terrible person!

I actually shut my dog's head in the door just a few minutes ago. It's night, raining, dark, and he's black. I was holding my washing in one arm and I swung the door shut. It clonked him on the head, but he didn't even respond. He has a very large, solid head. Thankfully.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:37 pm

You terrible person!

I actually shut my dog's head in the door just a few minutes ago. It's night, raining, dark, and he's black. I was holding my washing in one arm and I swung the door shut. It clonked him on the head, but he didn't even respond. He has a very large, solid head. Thankfully.
I hate when I hit my dogs, be it for punishment or pure accident. I always feel like the Holocaust, Holy Crusades, and Star Wars Cons gone wrong all rolled into one :(
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:00 pm

The only thing I deliberately kill are flies, which are teh evil, especially mosquitoes. But otherwise I'm careful to not kill things, even rescuing bitey and stingy things like spiders and bees. I admit that I'm of a fairly carnivorous nature so animals are pwned on my behalf, but I avoid places that don't take proper care of their animals as much as possible.

I did used to chase the cat down the stairs when she'd been whining outside the bedroom door all night. It was quite amusing that her intent could easily be ascertained by the direction in which she ran: if it was towards the kitchen, she wanted feeding; if it was towards the front room, she was just being bad! She was crap at hiding, regardless of how well hidden she was she still couldn't resist meowing when I went to find her. :laugh:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:21 pm

I know I said I don't deliberately kill anything, but I omitted flying bugs, e.g. flies, mosquitoes, moths, christmas beetles, flying cockroaches. Those need to die.

Bees, I like. Also butterflies. And dragonflies.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:09 pm

I kill pretty much any bugs that come my way in a preemptive hope of my gf not getting freaked out.

My list of things I have killed
-bugs
-cats(felt bad), chickens(so many chickens), rats, Myna Birds. (all road kill)
-fish(spearfishing, flyfishing!)
-Squid, octopi, slugs, snails, toads, crabs, lobster, prawns, (used for food or killed for other purposes)
-plants (both intentional and unintentional)
-countless microrganisms that i do not see (I am killing some right now just typing this...tap, tap, tap.)
-threads, hopes and dreams...
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:03 pm

I hate when I hit my dogs, be it for punishment or pure accident. I always feel like the Holocaust, Holy Crusades, and Star Wars Cons gone wrong all rolled into one :(


I hate it too, I always apologize profusely even though they don't know what on earth I'm yabbering about. The problem is they're both very affectionate medium-sized dogs, and they've mastered the art of getting in the way. One is really good at sneaking up behind you and planting himself right by your feet so he gets stood on if you move. The other one likes to be very close, especially going down stairs. I try really hard not to kick her, but she gets so close my foot sometimes hits her face. If I stop to let her past, she just stops with me! It's never a hard kick because I try be careful. She hits me though, so we're even.

I also stick my finger up her nose because every time I go to pat her, she kinda tosses her head up to try slobber on my hand and my finger just goes in her nostril, EVERY TIME!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:09 pm

I also stick my finger up her nose because every time I go to pat her, she kinda tosses her head up to try slobber on my hand and my finger just goes in her nostril, EVERY TIME!

Ew.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:47 pm

I've never intentionally hurt an animal before. I've accidentally stepped on my poor little dogs' tails and feet before but I would always console their injuries afterward for feeling so bad.

Honestly, killing things purposefully just seems so barbaric and nasty. Blehhh.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:51 am

I've never intentionally hurt an animal before. I've accidentally stepped on my poor little dogs' tails and feet before but I would always console their injuries afterward for feeling so bad.

Honestly, killing things purposefully just seems so barbaric and nasty. Blehhh.
Food?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:16 pm

Yeah. If you eat meat, Dalek, then you're calling yourself barbaric. Even then, I find your comment and attitude quite rude. You may not like killing things, but to call anyone who eats meat to be savages, that's a little insulting.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:49 pm

Purposefully killed like hunting or accidentally killed? Went hunting for frogs with an uncle of mine up at my grandma's property (Frog giggin I think it's called). Shot the poor dead frog in the butt with a .22 rifle when my uncle had already killed it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:23 pm

Food?
I was talking in context of purposeful killing such as, killing birds for fun or hunting for sport. Of course killing animals is necessary for food production and survival, but I mean killing animals without needing to.

Yeah. If you eat meat, Dalek, then you're calling yourself barbaric. Even then, I find your comment and attitude quite rude. You may not like killing things, but to call anyone who eats meat to be savages, that's a little insulting.
Really, anyone going out and killing an animal to eat when they could just as easily get already-killed meat at a store is just flat barbaric.

I eat meat but it's not like I kill it myself. The only time I find it 'acceptable' to kill an animal for food is just that, for food but only when killing it yourself is your only option. If you can buy already-killed meat, why wouldn't you?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:45 pm

I eat meat but it's not like I kill it myself. The only time I find it 'acceptable' to kill an animal for food is just that, for food but only when killing it yourself is your only option. If you can buy already-killed meat, why wouldn't you?
At the end of the day, something is going to die. The only difference being that the hunted animal is going to be a helluva lot fresher, tastier, and didn't go through an industrial process.

I don't see how hunting an animal is deplorable while buying frozen steaks is better. If I could, I would slaughter my own cows if I were a farmer, or hunt for my meat if I lived in an area where I could. If you aren't comfortable with the process of making meat, you probably should not be criticizing those who end up making sure that steak on your plate made it there.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:03 pm


Really, anyone going out and killing an animal to eat when they could just as easily get already-killed meat at a store is just flat barbaric.

I eat meat but it's not like I kill it myself. The only time I find it 'acceptable' to kill an animal for food is just that, for food but only when killing it yourself is your only option. If you can buy already-killed meat, why wouldn't you?
I've lived most of my life as a subsistence hunter much as my entire family has for many, many generations. We only take what we need and we are thankful to the animal whose life is given so that we might live. While I could drive the hundred miles to the grocery store (and do once per month for dry goods) what difference would it make if I killed the animal for food or someone else did? I can tell you the differences I see. The moose I kill will feed a family of four for one year with ease. That moose was born in the woods and roamed free since birth. It was never genetically engineered nor given antibiotics nor hormones nor tampered with by humans. The process of hunting it, killing it, dressing it and cutting and wrapping it gives us a clear picture of what "meat" really is and where it comes from. It also allows us to give thanks to the animal. It is important to us that none of the moose is wasted and since we use every part, we know for sure there was no waste.

There is nothing barbaric about it. Instead, in my eyes, it's taking responsibility for what we eat and for the life that we took so that we can eat. In my mind, having someone else do the dirty work does not absolve us of being meat eaters but rather only shields us from the reality of what it takes to obtain that meat. Of course if you feel an animal lives a better life in the stock yards and then being herded into a slaughter house to be shot and slaughtered and processed than the one that roams free and is shot by the one who will eat it....I don't suppose I can convince you differently. But me? Well I shall continue to live as my ancestors have for 1000's of years.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:42 pm

At the end of the day, something is going to die. I really see no different between taking the time to kill something yourself, and going to the store. The only difference being that the hunted animal is going to be a helluva lot fresher and tastier.

I don't see how hunting an animal is deplorable while buying frozen steaks is better. If I could, I would slaughter my own cows if I were a farmer, or hunt for my meat if I lived in an area where I could. If you aren't comfortable with the process of making meat, you probably should not be criticizing those who end up making sure that steak on your plate made it there.
The occupation of doing this is understandable. If it's your job to slaughter animals then go for it, but if you're just doing it for fun or because you want to "eat fresh" instead of store then you have no business going out and killing things.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:49 pm

I've lived most of my life as a subsistence hunter much as my entire family has for many, many generations. We only take what we need and we are thankful to the animal whose life is given so that we might live. While I could drive the hundred miles to the grocery store (and do once per month for dry goods) what difference would it make if I killed the animal for food or someone else did? I can tell you the differences I see. The moose I kill will feed a family of four for one year with ease. That moose was born in the woods and roamed free since birth. It was never genetically engineered nor given antibiotics nor hormones nor tampered with by humans. The process of hunting it, killing it, dressing it and cutting and wrapping it gives us a clear picture of what "meat" really is and where it comes from. It also allows us to give thanks to the animal. It is important to us that none of the moose is wasted and since we use every part, we know for sure there was no waste.

There is nothing barbaric about it. Instead, in my eyes, it's taking responsibility for what we eat and for the life that we took so that we can eat. In my mind, having someone else do the dirty work does not absolve us of being meat eaters but rather only shields us from the reality of what it takes to obtain that meat. Of course if you feel an animal lives a better life in the stock yards and then being herded into a slaughter house to be shot and slaughtered and processed than the one that roams free and is shot by the one who will eat it....I don't suppose I can convince you differently. But me? Well I shall continue to live as my ancestors have for 1000's of years.

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Dependent on your location, you live far from stores and markets so it's understandable why you would have to kill these Moose to survive. But if you lived in a semi-rural area with a town just down the road and choose to kill your own meat to "save a few bucks" or "eat fresh" then it's just barbaric to do so. If you have the classy option, why not take it?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:13 pm

The occupation of doing this is understandable. If it's your job to slaughter animals then go for it, but if you're just doing it for fun or because you want to "eat fresh" instead of store then you have no business going out and killing things.

o.O

It's like saying an assassin is ok to kill people because it is his job but a psycho can't because he wants too (both are bad). I don't mean being a meat eater is bad, I was just using that as an example. I personally disagree with the way non-free range animals are kept and killed.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:01 am

o.O

It's like saying an assassin is ok to kill people because it is his job but a psycho can't because he wants too (both are bad). I don't mean being a meat eater is bad, I was just using that as an example. I personally disagree with the way non-free range animals are kept and killed.

Being an assassin isn't a real job. They don't have assassin companies, but they do have meat processing companies and people have to kill that meat. There's a difference between the two.

Like I said, it's barbaric if you do it out of want or laziness, it's understandable if it's done out of survival or occupation.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:39 pm

Being an assassin isn't a real job. They don't have assassin companies, but they do have meat processing companies and people have to kill that meat. There's a difference between the two.

Like I said, it's barbaric if you do it out of want or laziness, it's understandable if it's done out of survival or occupation.

Whats your views on killing animals for protection of other species, or people Livestock /livelihood ?

For example,
a Cull on Grey squirrels to protect the Red squirrel population
and
Culls of badgers as they carry a disease which can kill cattle, which means no money for farmers, and that cow doesnt make it into your burgers.
Shooting of Magpies to protect songbirds

I dont see any of those as barbaric personally.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:21 pm

There was also a point in IL where the game wardens were forced to keep deer season open all year for a few years, because Hoof-Mouth disease was becoming rampant in the deer population, along with overpopulation.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:58 pm

Whats your views on killing animals for protection of other species, or people Livestock /livelihood ?

For example,
a Cull on Grey squirrels to protect the Red squirrel population
and
Culls of badgers as they carry a disease which can kill cattle, which means no money for farmers, and that cow doesnt make it into your burgers.
Shooting of Magpies to protect songbirds

I dont see any of those as barbaric personally.

The badger culls seem to be based on fairly questionable evidence, but I certainly agree with killing grey squirrels to protect reds, and having a magpie problem where we are, I can definitely see why they're classed as vermin: they're extremely unpleasant creatures and disastrous for the other wildlife.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:31 pm



Being an assassin isn't a real job. They don't have assassin companies, but they do have meat processing companies and people have to kill that meat. There's a difference between the two.

Like I said, it's barbaric if you do it out of want or laziness, it's understandable if it's done out of survival or occupation.

Ah I see what you are getting at, if someone has a document or company saying they can kill animals, they have a right to? Even if the animals are kept poorly (I.e chicken sheds). If I was to be eaten, I would rather be hunted and lived a free life rather than be farmed for the sole purpose of being eaten.
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