Skyrim Criticism (Long, hopefully worth the read)

Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:57 pm

*snip*
I'm really getting sick and tired of 'this is your opinion, this is my opinion, derp, herp' crap.
Well, I have an opinion that you have no right to your opinion and that my opinion is only good opinion!
Jeus [censoring] Christ. >_>
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Alex Blacke
 
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:40 pm

I actually really like the cinematic kill system. New Vegas did it as well, but it was different.

The dual-wield kill where you get the enemy on their knees and then execute them is so awesome, can't even describe it. (I think you have to get a perk for that though).
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:25 am

I'm really getting sick and tired of 'this is your opinion, this is my opinion, derp, herp' crap.
Well, I have an opinion that you have no right to your opinion and that my opinion is only good opinion!
Jeus [censoring] Christ. >_>

It must be sickening to know that other people disagree with you, and that your opinion, however strongly held, still hasn't become a fact.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:05 pm

The's many things this game lacks, and this will be my first and last game from Bethesda. There are so many things that are wrong here: To few good and challenging quests, no challenge what so ever in playing on highest difficulty compared to the lovest one. My Nord is at lvl 39 with a 2 hander and full on perks for that, and it just feels like playing on lowest lvl. And there are many other faults. But this discussion is really useless, since the people behind bethesda only cares about ripping people of their money. So I have no hopes at all that we will see some changes in this game.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:57 am

The's many things this game lacks, and this will be my first and last game from Bethesda. There are so many things that are wrong here: To few good and challenging quests, no challenge what so ever in playing on highest difficulty compared to the lovest one. My Nord is at lvl 39 with a 2 hander and full on perks for that, and it just feels like playing on lowest lvl. And there are many other faults. But this discussion is really useless, since the people behind bethesda only cares about ripping people of their money. So I have no hopes at all that we will see some changes in this game.

It's impressive that you've developed such a definitive opinion of a company from whom you've only bought one game.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:00 am

Hi i love skyrim.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:36 am

I like to play the skyrm EACH DAY. I do not have any criticise. But sometime she make me CRAZY for example my guy battle(combat) for example bearand she KILL ME when SUFFICIENT BLOWS HAVE LANDED TO CAUSE DEMISE! I navigate the mountain AND FALL FROM HER resulting in DEATH? The giant are capable of SUFFICIENT STRENGTH to cause my guy flight! WTF THIS IS FREAKING CRAZY AND NOT POSSIBLE most time i have the best time and if I GET TO CRAZY then simple. Withdraw from skyrim! (for example watch TV place battlefield within xbox) when I dont feel crazy at the situation RETURN SKYRIM! KING THE SKYRIM


this is the best thing I have ever read on the internet. It could go viral its that funny
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:01 am

I'm really getting sick and tired of 'this is your opinion, this is my opinion, derp, herp' crap.
Well, I have an opinion that you have no right to your opinion and that my opinion is only good opinion!
Jeus [censoring] Christ. >_>

It is true though. It is your opinion. Skyrim is one of my favorite Elder Scrolls and I think it is one of the best games out there currently. That's my opinion on it.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:32 am

You wouldn't be able to sell a game like Skyrim if you couldn't achieve anything in it - that is, becoming powerful, rich, defeating the main antagonists and helping your friends. More to the point, you might sell the game, but you'd never sell a sequel.

And the world's as large as it needs to be. It doesn't *need* to take an hour to run from one corner to the other when the area is content rich, and contains so many hills and valleys that many have never seen and never will see, in fact such a big world could be disadvantageous. This game's just big enough that if you travel from most hold capitals to another, you have a variety of possible routes, you'll encounter anywhere from two to five random encounters, and probably take about ten to fifteen minutes all up. More than that would introduce tedium.

He's just saying there should be a challenge to it. Even if there's not a real challenge, you should FEEL like you've earned something. It's not so much the fact that you can easily succeed as it is thefact that, when you do suceed, you don't feel like you accomplished much. No one recognizes your position, you don't feel like you built yourself up from a nobody. It just feels like you're handed things. At least to me it does.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:35 am

And yet we see Skyrim continues to win awards, Skyrim continues to sell, people still play it, and people are still enjoying it

Opinions and reviews from people in forums are worthless because most are just rants from Internet idiots.

What matters is a full trophy case and millions of dollars in sales.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:19 pm

The's many things this game lacks, and this will be my first and last game from Bethesda.

If you've already decided that you won't be buying another Bethesda game, why are you still commenting on this forum?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:23 am

And yet we see Skyrim continues to win awards, Skyrim continues to sell, people still play it, and people are still enjoying it

Opinions and reviews from people in forums are worthless because most are just rants from Internet idiots.

What matters is a full trophy case and millions of dollars in sales.

Awesome, so Skyrim actually is Call of Duty now.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:26 am

Awesome, so Skyrim actually is Call of Duty now.

Skyrim is too awesome to become a Failure like Call of Duty.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:17 am

Skyrim is too awesome to become a Failure like Call of Duty.

Failure?


And yet we see Call of Duty continues to win awards, Call of Duty continues to sell, people still play it, and people are still enjoying it

Opinions and reviews from people in forums are worthless because most are just rants from Internet idiots.

What matters is a full trophy case and millions of dollars in sales.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:42 am

Failure?

At least, 80% of the people who play Call of Duty are young Middle School Kids who think they are better than anybody else just because they know how to play a game OR they think they can join the Army since they have 'experience' now... I personally believe it is more 95%, if you ask me.

CoD has good storyline but I'm not into it as much as other stuff and when I tried playing it online.... Yeah.. What I said above sounds very true.. Never gonna play CoD online again, that's for sure.

It isn't truly a failure, I guess but I still count it as one since the only fun thing about it is Multi-Player and that alone is ruined by those kids.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:38 am

At least, 80% of the people who play Call of Duty are young Middle School Kids who think they are better than anybody else just because they know how to play a game OR they think they can join the Army since they have 'experience' now... I personally believe it is more 95%, if you ask me.

CoD has good storyline but I'm not into it as much as other stuff and when I tried playing it online.... Yeah.. What I said above sounds very true.. Never gonna play CoD online again, that's for sure.

It isn't truly a failure, I guess but I still count it as one since the only fun thing about it is Multi-Player and that alone is ruined by those kids.

And thus a reflection of Skyrim.

You, a person on the internet (I'll remove the choice word jpo used), is criticizing CoD as a game as well as its player base.

But your opinion means nothing because CoD makes a boat load of money.

People on the internet (again removing jpo's choice word), are now criticizing Skyrim and its current player base and the direction the series might be headed in.

But again, apparently those opinions mean nothing because Skyrim is currently printing money.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:08 pm

And thus a reflection of Skyrim.

You, a person on the internet (I'll remove the choice word jpo used), is criticizing CoD as a game as well as its player base.

But your opinion means nothing because CoD makes a boat load of money.

People on the internet (again removing jpo's choice word), are now criticizing Skyrim and its current player base and the direction the series might be headed in.

But again, apparently those opinions mean nothing because Skyrim is currently printing money.

I think you forgot something. The main difference between CoD and Skyrim (Which makes it so Skyrim isn't a Failure like CoD) is that Skyrim is a Solo-Player-Game while CoD is only fun on Multi-Player (The Campaign gets boring after doing it so much).

That is why I say Skyrim will never be a Failure like CoD, because Skyrim will never have that annoying Multi-Player crap.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:53 am

I think you forgot something. The main difference between CoD and Skyrim (Which makes it so Skyrim isn't a Failure like CoD) is that Skyrim is a Solo-Player-Game while CoD is only fun on Multi-Player (The Campaign gets boring after doing it so much).

That is why I say Skyrim will never be a Failure like CoD, because Skyrim will never have that annoying Multi-Player crap.

Do you not see the connection?

Skyrim lives off it's single player, because that's what it has.
Call of Duty's single player, as you said, is boring. Call of Duty's multiplayer is also annoying (and unbalanced).

People on these forums are potentially viewing the problems the CoD is facing in one condensed focus on the only thing Skyrim has, single player.

And people are finding Skyrim's single player, the only thing it has, not fun.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:57 pm

So....what other open world games out there are larger?
Upcoming Arma3 will have 400 sq.km of land and 150 sq.km of underwater areas. It's an open world sandbox kind of game, but it is a tactical shooter / milsim kind of deal. Much bigger in size, but naturally not as detailed. Based on the Greek real island of Limnos. Also the predecessors have had much bigger sizes than any TES game (Daggerfall excluded of course - the biggest of them all :smile:)

Upcoming Arma3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efC6gAO6exA
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Do you not see the connection?

Skyrim lives off it's single player, because that's what it has.
Call of Duty's single player, as you said, is boring. Call of Duty's multiplayer is also annoying (and unbalanced).

People on these forums are potentially viewing the problems the CoD is facing in one condensed focus on the only thing Skyrim has, single player.

And people are finding Skyrim's single player, the only thing it has, not fun.

I personally love Skyrim and I never got bored of an Elder Scrolls game. I still play Daggerfall, Morrowind, Arena, and Oblivion from time-to-time.

So for me, Skyrim is what I like a lot and has few things I truly dislike while CoD... Well... I just hate everything about CoD and I think it is a Failure.

I do see the connection you are making but I think you are not seeing the actually overall opinions of each game that people have. Also, this is hard to do since both games are almost impossible to compare. Both are two different kinds of games and have two different ideas thus the opinions will rarely be similar.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:55 am

I personally love Skyrim and I never got bored of an Elder Scrolls game. I still play Daggerfall, Morrowind, Arena, and Oblivion from time-to-time.

So for me, Skyrim is what I like a lot and has few things I truly dislike while CoD... Well... I just hate everything about CoD and I think it is a Failure.

I do see the connection you are making but I think you are not seeing the actually overall opinions of each game that people have. Also, this is hard to do since both games are almost impossible to compare. Both are two different kinds of games and have two different ideas thus the opinions will rarely be similar.

We're not comparing the actual games of Call of Duty and Skyrim, what was being compared and discussed is the principles and problems the player base have with each game.

For example:

Many, many people question the balancing in CoD's multiplayer and say it's terrible.

Skyrim, like many other (or even all of) TES games have a problem with balancing. Spellcrafting could be overly powerful, Chameleon armor was overly powerful, Smithing is now overly powerful. Or Bandits would have Daedric armor in Oblivion while in Skyrim you can rip through 90-100% of the enemies fairly easily.

Another criticism of CoD is that it's very shallow in terms of substance.

Skyrim, by people on here (and by some people I know in person) say Skyrim is lacking depth. That even though there is "a lot to do," that such "lot to do" is not very worth while. For example, despite the narrative of the game portraying Khajiits as not being allowed in cities, we as the player can make a Khajiit and stroll into any city we want.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:28 pm

And yet we see Skyrim continues to win awards, Skyrim continues to sell, people still play it, and people are still enjoying it

Opinions and reviews from people in forums are worthless because most are just rants from Internet idiots.

What matters is a full trophy case and millions of dollars in sales.
You can't go to any forum without running into either the guy who complains and rants about a game constantly, or the one who blindly defends it in a rude, condescending manner. You sir, are the latter. No one here, at least not the op, was ranting like an internet idiot, and yet you behave exactly like one. The OP was simply expressing what s/he LIKES and DISLIKES about Skyrim. If you disagree, great! Go have fun playing the game. Be happy these things dont bother you, but don't put down people who disagree with you.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:39 pm

We're not comparing the actual games of Call of Duty and Skyrim, what was being compared and discussed is the principles and problems the player base have with each game.

For example:

Many, many people question the balancing in CoD's multiplayer and say it's terrible.

Skyrim, like many other (or even all of) TES games have a problem with balancing. Spellcrafting could be overly powerful, Chameleon armor was overly powerful, Smithing is now overly powerful. Or Bandits would have Daedric armor in Oblivion while in Skyrim you can rip through 90-100% of the enemies fairly easily.

Another criticism of CoD is that it's very shallow in terms of substance.

Skyrim, by people on here (and by some people I know in person) say Skyrim is lacking depth. That even though there is "a lot to do," that such "lot to do" is not very worth while. For example, despite the narrative of the game portraying Khajiits as not being allowed in cities, we as the player can make a Khajiit and stroll into any city we want.

Balance is what the player makes it be. In Skyrim, the players has a choice with their balances. If they want to be overpowerly, let them. If they want to be underpowerly, let them. Both are possible to do thus there is no need to complain such stuff. If you are complaining then it is because you are making the wrong choices. I, for one, balanced my character out in a way so I can actually die quite easily if I don't pay attention. Also, Bandits in Skyrim can get quite deadly, specially with range and magic.

As for the whole Khajiit things, people mistook it. They don't allow those Khajiit traders into cities. NOT Khajiits in-general. Actually, you can find a few NPC Khajiits in a town or city, if my memory serves me correctly.

Skyrim is lacking some depth but you gotta make sure you list the right ones and not the things you mistook.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:37 am

Balance isn't AS much of a problem since Skyrim isn't multiplayer but i know what you mean. Everything else you said I agree with, especially the shallowness. Sure, Khajiit should be ablemto enter cities, but there should be SOME difference, maybe even a quest where you prove to people you can be trusted so you can get papers to enter the city. if they didn't want to do that, WHY ADD THE PLOT POINT TO BEGIN WITH? Every race should have advabtages and disadvantages, to make you feel like who you are MATTERS. This game is very shallow in terms of choice and consequence, both positive and negative.
Edit: Even if the khajiit thing doesnt apply to everyone, The argonian thing in windhelm isn't adressed at all. And a khajiit should a least be hassled a bit about entering a city for the first time. Anyone can be "trader", especially when you're selling loot.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:27 am

Balance is what the player makes it be. In Skyrim, the players has a choice with their balances. If they want to be overpowerly, let them. If they want to be underpowerly, let them. Both are possible to do thus there is no need to complain such stuff. If you are complaining then it is because you are making the wrong choices. I, for one, balanced my character out in a way so I can actually die quite easily if I don't pay attention. Also, Bandits in Skyrim can get quite deadly, specially with range and magic.

As for the whole Khajiit things, people mistook it. They don't allow those Khajiit traders into cities. NOT Khajiits in-general. Actually, you can find a few NPC Khajiits in a town or city, if my memory serves me correctly.

Skyrim is lacking some depth but you gotta make sure you list the right ones and not the things you mistook.

"The wrong choices?"

Choosing to level Smithing instead of Speechcraft is no where near the same thing as choosing to move your Rook into a position that clearly exposes your King, nor is it the same as going into a game like Final Fantasy and constantly attacking the Fire Demon, who absorbs Fire as Health, with Fire Spells. That's a "wrong choice." A "wrong choice" in the single player campaign of Mass Effect is shooting at the dead body in the background instead of shooting at the fully healthy Atlas standing right in front of you.

Choosing to level a mechanic given to us in the game should never be a "wrong choice," especially in a game set up like Skyrim, ever.

If I choose to level Smithing, or Stealth, or Alchemy, the game should be balanced according to what I can do. I should not be balancing myself in accordance to what the game can do. Because then I'm not the one in actual control. I'm not trying to overcome what the game throws at me, I'm making it so that the game has a better chance to overcome me.

And as far as Khajiits go... they don't allow traders in... yet they never stop to ask if I'm a trader, ever.
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