Crap a brick, the very first sentence -no, clause - in the thread:
...misses the point. Profit is not a temptation to stray from the One True Path, it's the reason people get out of bed on a cold morning to get in their car to drive to an office to go work for eight or nine hours. Good Lord. Money. That's the only reason people spend forty to fifty hours a week doing the grind work of anything, even making video games. If I owned shares of Bethesda and I found they were intentionally making a game to fit a niche market despite an opportunity to make it appeal to a larger number of people - and spending God knows how many shareholder dollars and man-hours to do so - I'd sell every share as fast as I could and never look back.
Yes, not ever game is meant to be Angry Birds. I've been playing games since the mid-seventies (Space Invaders at the arcade!) and PC games since 1985 and console games since the Atari 2600, and I appreciate complex games, but don't feed me this "corporate greed" nonsense. As soon as you use the term "the community" and talk about how Bethesda "owes" "the community" something, you lose.
argry bird...

of course, nonsense, the game industry shows no sight of greed perminating it, no sir... You like me are of an age to have watched such changes.
Companys do owe there customers somthing, as we make them, other wise we are just pawns, if you are ok with this side of capatalism and just a mindless consumber getting up for your 9-5 under the faulse pretense of freedom happy to see enterprise drip/shoval/drip there way to sharehold sucess we are not going to see eye to eye, what i dont do though is 'fail' considering how your comment started, i thought you may have had a point, im surprised it ended so moronicly, but on reflection i see youve probably never volinteered for anything never worked for free, would you be happy with your effort being distrubuted purely out of passion? what has happend to ppl. I get out of bed to do a good job because i have pride. I need money because that is the system we live in, i dont live for it though.
If money is the soul object of life that is the true fail.
If your happy to just give out your time for more and more dillusion year after year, dont bag on people that actully exspect somthing, personnaly having freinds that design games within the industry i know there feelings on what was purly a creative industry turn into a work horse. This is far off topic though, i wont be discussing politics, morality ect any further.
Im personaly just concerned with the depth of the game when i was under the impression they still made products for there fans, not somebody elses, it not a one size fits all set of gloves after all.