Could have been better in some areas, yeah. Nah, though, really. Only games that charge full retail for a ten hour campaign, or sports games that are the same as last years with a few new players, should be ashamed of themselves.

It's not ashamed because it achieved it's purpose of appealing to the masses and making tons of money.

Much to the dislike of many fans, but you know, needs of the many and all that.

What about Kyne's Sacred Trials?

That isn't how people give out directions. In the real world we have addresses for a reason. We don't take out maps and go, "Here". No we hand out addresses. I like the world to feel at least like it cares. "Its here" [mark it on the map] "It's just east of here, near the trio rock formation" or whatever. That's how people give out directions.


Where did I say I didn't like Skyrim? I only feel that Skyrim should be taken down a notch and not sit on a high throne when there are plenty of games out there that have done better.

@Fhyn: We complain/rant about the quality of the game, so that way we can hope in the future to get the company to wake up. I'd like to play Skyrim....but...errr...my CD is kind of broke. I have an old Xbox 360 from centuries ago and it scratches and breaks my disc.

I do the same.

I was standing somewhere near Markath yesterday. I just stood there and beholded the beauty that surrounded me. Mountains to the east and west, mist intertwining between them with the sun glaring through - like a picturesque painting - but a real and complete world with no artificial backgrounds, all rendered in real-time and fully reachable on foot.

I looked in my quest list and overwhelmed with the content I just ignored it and walked around like it was a Sunday stroll through the countryside.

The game is epic before you even consider the content and features. I can't understand any hate towards this game. Like the poster above said "you're obviously not looking at the bigger picture"

The main story is attrocious. I need to find my sister, blah, blah. Not saying Skyrim has the best MQ, but it's better than that tripe.

Customer creation is terrible. (This is an important feature to me) I tried to make 3 characters, and they all looked like the same guy with different hair. No female choice either.

Worst voiced main character ever. This is the reason you don't voice a created character.

Big open world where sadly 50% is reserved for MP. Guess what I don't give a crap about MP. What a waste.

Guilds you don't actually join, but simply do fetch quests off a board for them. Most of these quests have nothing to do with what the guild is about.

Lots of armor that sadly looked exactly like the previous armors.

Leveling that became tedious when you got too high for an area.

I could go on, but I've said enough.

I see your problem. I play on the PC (I never have console) and my game is heavily modded (70 mods) so it may be a different game experience.
If I speak to the future, well, I think the direction of the game is correct. I just want a little drew back to some role play aspects.
And for the real world... real world is real world.
I prefeer the place marked in the map (not the white arrow, just the place in the map) than a incredible long speech of how to reach it.

I'm going retract everything negative I said about this game. Skyrim is THE quintessential RPG. INFINITE QUESTS, INFINITE DRAGONS, INFINITE EVERYTHING.

Or go to it's message boards, and whine about it.

X27, There is not a dev in existance who couldn't improve upon Two Worlds 1, the game really was THAT poor, and whilst you dismiss this point as a joke, note that you are very much alone in making it. And, as has been pointed out, NPCs mark locations on your map. The alternative is recording voice lines with directions to the place in question. Consider the radiant system, having to record directions for every cvoncievable location, not to mention that some of the locations could be halfway across the map... Thus, "here, I'll mark it on your map" problem solved. Don't want the floating arrow? Deselect the quest, use your map as much or little as you wish.

Now please stop spouting your opinion like its fact.

http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/images/11135-2-1330212428.jpg

Did I say the story was grand in TW2? No. But what it did right, as I stated. Spellcrafting infintely making whatever you could possibly dream and the in game books also help you along spellcrafting giving out ideas. Dyes to dye your clothing. The ability to have three options of opening a lock chest instead of everyone lockpicking. The ability to break down items to its core elements like a sword or armor, etc. The open world environment, the large beastiary with interesting beast for different areas. In my opinion, yes TW2 did not have a good story. But in much ways I could forgive them the way I forgave Oblivion because I felt completely emersed in the world.

TW2 character creation was not grand, but I always take several hours anyway with my characters. Character creation is also a very very important system to me. Which I brought up Dragon's Dogma, which imo had a far better customization than in Skyrim because I can make anything. Young, fat, old, skinny, muscular, etc. A child, a dwarf, a old man, a middle age man. In Skyrim I have such difficulty making what I want to make.

I like a lot of mage characters. I do not like them effortlessly flawless, but I absolutely want to kill whomever gave out so many wrinkles in Skyrim's customization. All I want to do is make a mystical mage character, whom is young without wrinkles, but with bruising and scarring. Much like my Oblivion character. In Dragon Dogma this was possible. Not in Skyrim.

What you are complaining that Skyrim NPCs don't give out adresses? So mailmen should deliver your mail by a series of of directions. They see the adress, and then look at a map of the city, and go there. Ever use a GPS? You know mark it on the map, and then follow it to your destination.

*A mile wide and a foot deep*

Just accept that Skyrim isn't a game about character devoplment or making meaningful choices or well-written stories other typical RPG stuff. It's a very pretty hiking simulator with swords and magic that is actually the best open-world action-adventure RPG so long as you focus on the open-world action-adventure part.

You are in a severe minority if you think a larger mound of dog doo that stinks a bit less is better than the original mound of dog doo it improved upon. At best, TW2 is a 5 of 10, but I think a lot of players would put it under the 50% mark.

And poster who mentioned the tech acheivements, total agreement here. Kiddies, kill a bear on a hill. Watch is roll. Drop a potion. Look at that shelf there. You see the stuff on it? Every one a 3D model with which you can interact. See that tree on that mountain there some 10 miles off? You can actually walk to that tree, unobstructed, with no load screen, just with an increasing (and realistic) clarity and detai. Watch the models move. Perfect? No. But hella good. The only open worlder that even comes close in engine/graphics/complexity is Gothic 3, and that was and would remain, a total mess, were it not for the MANY contributing gamers who fixed it to a playable level.

TW2? Please, cut your losses on that one.

Answer for you:

http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/images/11135-2-1330135892.jpg

The spell system was limited to what cards there were. So it was not anything I could dream of. Could I force my eneies to attack each other like in Skyrim? No. I agree Skyrim has zero spell crafting, but I find Skyrim's magic system more enjoyable even without it.

I agree with you. Sometimes I wonder if Skyrim was designed for small children. Things like joke dungeons, predictable traps, lights everywhere and very predictable layouts is laughable. Obviously every dungeons isn't going to be super different from each other but c'mon. The game seems to be afraid to challenge the player and make them think independently.

Imagine it with it. A refined spellcrafting system, I forgot to say.

And I discovered them all on my own, which I found rewarding.

Technically the spellcrafting in Oblivion was limited to what spells were in the game. Your point?

You can do whatever you dreamed of with what tools you had, is that better wording for you?

And you can discover them with adequate directions too, which is rewarding as well. Your point again?

This thread to me says "Skyrim didn't do things the way other games have, therefore it is bad."
I could type out a long post about how Skyrim is, in many ways, far better than its predecessors. But it's pointless. If you believe that Skyrim is so inferior to its predecessors, then why not play those other games? Many, many people love Skyrim for what it is.

No one believes Skyrim is flawless, but overall it's a very good game. Don't try to tell me the other games you've mentioned (neither of which I've played) have no failures. I'm led to believe that New Vegas is rather ... Sloppy in its world design, but that so happens to be Skyrim's greatest strength. Skyrim is improving on its flaws - from what I'm told, Dawnguard's storyline is far better than the vanilla factions.

Skyrim may not be the pinnacle of the RPG genre, but many of us consider it to be among the best of 2011. You shouldn't be asking yourself 'is Skyrim the best game I've ever played?', you should be asking 'do I enjoy Skyrim?'. Because its the latter question that matters, and the former has no bearing on anything at all.