Since I'm not allowed to bring up different platforms, I'll talk strictly about the PC version.

It's not done. And before any of you Bethesdablinded defenders come in and say "You're too lazy to edit the .ini file, ur dumb!" A complete, professional game, should not have to have to edit the game code, in order to access basic things like...vertical synch, or mouse smoothing. And you ESPECIALLY should not have to do that when the game comes at the above average price of SIXTY DOLLARS. It's clear this game was not made with the PC in mind.

This is not a discussion about glitches or bugs (of which there are many), this is a warning to those who are looking to buy this on the PC. Wait a few weeks, or months, and see if either patches or mods fix these issues. If this thread gets locked AGAIN it just proves that Bethesda is closing any thread that doesn't praise their game. This is constructive criticism, and service to those buying the game.

To paraphrase my other thread:

"The PC version is buggy, rife with glitches, but that's the small issue. Those can be fixed.

The graphics options aren't in the game. They all have to be manually changed in the ini file. The mouse has smoothing that you can't turn off, the speed values are off, so actually using the mouse is a pain in the ass, moving it horizontally is a different speed than vertical. Field of view is locked. The UI itself seems like it wasn't made at all for the PC, it's all scrolling through menu, a la Oblivion.

And, I'll say it again, you can't turn the compass off, which was the most hated feature of Oblivion for many people. We were told you could. We were lied to. You have to edit the .ini file to turn it off. No word yet on if the game is even playable without the compass. If its anything like Oblivion, it won't be.

So, PC gamers beware, for 60 dollars you're getting an unfinished gamet. Bethesda, you lost a customer. This isn't why PC sales are low, it's because you don't put any effort into them. Hell, the graphics are still DX9. Blame piracy in interviews all you want, but this is the reason. Always on DRM (Steam), bugs, bad controls, few graphics options, and what options are there are dated 6 years old, shoddy combat, and all at the low low price of SIXTY DOLLARS. "

I completely agree, and people who defend A GAME COMPANY are crazy, I still love the game, but come on, they do not need you to say "its not that bad"

Good grief......

Meh. I'm already used to it.

Bethesda can't make a game that's perfect for everyone. You can go into the .ini file and change something that you don't like, problem solved.

Why is anyone even on these forums if they are totally happy with the game, why aren't you playing it???

Because we work...

Are you guys freaking serious? This isn't about personal preference. This is about the BARE MINIMUM that a SIXTY DOLLAR AAA premium game should have. Graphics options SHOULD BE IN THE GAME. Saying "you can just mod it out" is WRONG. I shouldn't have to fix a multi MILLION dollar company's mistakes. And anyone who says otherwise is a deluded zealot.

The game isn't fine. It isn't all hunky dorry. These issues exist. They are real. if you don't mind them, cool. Many of us do. Many of us expected better for such a high price tag. Maybe if they'd taken the 1 million dollars they invested into those moronic statues or food trucks and put it into the PC version we wouldn't have these issues?

As of now, with the mouse problems, the game is absolutely unplayable for me.

What kind of bugs? I've crashed twice for reasons Im not sure of but whats the heavy issue? the UI is my largest functioning complaint ;/

hmm yeah I think I will pass.

im not bothered about changing settings too much it scanned my pc hardware and set it to high which is what i would have put it on anyway, and i dont care too much about the other graphical options, cant you change settings from the launcher? i think you had to do this with new vegas. and im using an xbox controler so im not finding any problems with the ui or other things.

in my 7 hours or so playig i have come across 0 bugs, but imo the map should zoom in more & be more clear i went to the top of a mountain to get to a keep, when i got to the top there was nothing untill i realised it was back at the bottom of the mountain.

If I had this on PC, I would agree with this post completely. Even my Borderlands PC port allows me to make all those modifications in game. I really do feel bad for the PC players, it svcks that they had to wait this long and are disappointed, but I am sure patches will be released to help fix some of these issues.

Isn't it great how Bethesda told us they made a special UI just for the PC version that we'd all "be pleased with"? Yeah. No.

And the PC version looking "way better" than the console version? I have to squint to see the slight differences in textures, and that's the only real difference. And that'd be enough, if the textures weren't so muddy and low res EVEN ON ULTRA.

It's not as much about defending a company as it is about pointing out that some of the people making these threads are spoilt brats who either held unrealistically high expectations, take everything to the extreme, or are playing the to the search for fault rather than actually play the game.

Me? I just like to have a laugh at you delusional, self-important types. And yes, I am aware of the hypocrisy in what I just said there.

I'm completely serious, if you don't like the game, you shouldn't have bought it. They can't include options for everything, stop being lazy and sort the problem out yourself.

Glad I saw this, seems patches are necessary. Very large game, problems this early are a huge red flag...Time to dust off the old 360

Thats because the entire UI was designed around an xbox controller. And no, you can't change most of the graphical options in the launcher. I know thats where it was in Fallout and Oblivion. And theres some, but the vast majority of graphics options you have to edit files in order to use.


I appreciate the sympathies, and yes, we can hope. I knew I should have waited until Christmas for this. Isn't the golden rule never to get a Bethesda game the day it releases?

Needing graphics options? Go look at all those other AAA titles, their graphics settings are crap as well.

My only problem is the 3 CTD I've had in playing 6 hours, nicely amended by a good auto-save system.

While I agree somewhat, editing the .ini is not editing the game code. You can access some video (indirectly) control through the launch screen. However I do agree they should have put more control over video and audio control in the settings. Still editing an .ini is really simple and there are already guides on the web to help you do that. Just remember to backup first.

Still I personally like a graphic UI when editing settings over text editing.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, the problem with this community. This person is an archetype for all that is wrong here. Zealot in the extreme.

Dude, can you honestly not comprehend this thread? We're not asking for "everything" we're asking for ANYTHING. It does not fall on me, the buyer, the customer, to fix the problems of a multi million dollar video game company. If they were extremely obscure things, sure. But no vertical sync? No field of view? No mouse smoothing options? Those have been in games since the 90s. For sixty dollars I expected something more. And no, I shouldn't have bought it. That's the point of this thread, to warn anyone else to not repeat my mistake, thank you, and don't post here anymore.

all game companies lie to their customers or word it carefully to cover themselves

-bf3 - stated you could destroy the big antennae in one of the maps but failed to mention it was a set piece destruction only
-mw3 - stated PC's would have dedicated server support but failed to mention it would be un-rank only

How do I edit this ".ini file" everyone is talking about? And you're right the PC version was pretty much neglected like a redheaded stepchild.

'BARE MINIMUM'? lol..just lol. Loads of dungeons, quests, giant landscape, tall mountains, the list goes on, is the bare minimum? wow my parents brought me up to be really really grateful.

Personally the only one of your complaints I can side with is mouse problems, other than that its just whinging about a lack of convenient graphics options

Basically this is the gist of it, I'm afraid. I often get confronted with the 'if you settle for it, you're making devs think they can get away with making poor games' due to my 'a game is a game' ideal.

It didn't feel unfinished at all to me.

I find this stuff a small price to pay for what my $60 gets. Hours upon hours upon hours of game play in a beautiful fantasy world killing dragons, giants, wolves () what have you.

Do I like the UI? Not really. Does it piss me off? Nope. Have I had stability issues? Nope. I'd say they did a great job frankly. I'm playing it for what it is, not what I want it to be. I seem to be enjoying it to.

Just my opinion of course.