Stop spreading negativity - it's the drivers, not the game.

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:00 pm

It IS the drivers!
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Darrell Fawcett
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:46 pm

I updated my drivers yesterday before playing, then updated them again when I found there was a "RAGE driver" for ATI. Still not working properly. I get 60fps, but textures and models flicker at random.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:05 pm

Doesn't make any sense, they should have been prepared for this.
AMD/Nvidia and id Sofware/Bethesda should both be to blame.
Did the entire team forget to test Rage on PC??

Well the 11.8 drivers, the 11.9 drivers, AND the "old" AMD Rage fix drivers all didn't work.
Tell me, WHICH drivers did Rage actually play nice with?

They tell you to download these new drivers, then oops, sorry those are OLD drivers.
Seriously??
Someone working at AMD posts the old drivers but supposedly new ones are going to be ready later today??
Why weren't these "NEW" drivers ready last night like they should have been?
They did the same damn thing with the supposed Battlefield Open Beta drivers which they immediately took down.

Major failure on everyone involved in the development of Rage.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:24 am

I updated my drivers yesterday before playing, then updated them again when I found there was a "RAGE driver" for ATI. Still not working properly. I get 60fps, but textures and models flicker at random.
They are working on a new update for drivers. Haven't been released yet.
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Emily Rose
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:44 pm

They are working on a new update for drivers. Haven't been released yet.

Cool, once they're released we can move into a paid beta test.
Is there going to be a bug report forum for us or is that not included in the Pre-order packet?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:31 pm

It's the drivers and not the game eh? Well dagnabit what is wrong with those nasty old drivers that are so biased against one game? Because the drivers I am using right now work fine for the other games I'm playing right now: Deus Ex Human Revolution, Dead Island and Lord of the Rings Online. Driver problem my a$$. The game doesn't even seem to have any native support for Crossfire or SLI which is pretty lame too.

I'm looking forward to playing this game, but right now the launch of the game is pretty disappointing.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:19 am

Cool, once they're released we can move into a paid beta test.
Is there going to be a bug report forum for us or is that not included in the Pre-order packet?

+1 My sentiments exactly. I have tried all of the "workarounds" out there, and waiting on these new drivers as the game is still running terribly. I gave other games, such as Oblivion, a lot of slack because while it had bugs, I was still able to ENJOY MY PURCHASE ON DAY ONE. Ugh.

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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:02 am

Do you guys have any idea how complicated the PC platform is? Let's not act like children. Every PC game is released with day 1 blues.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:05 am

Do you guys have any idea how complicated the PC platform is? Let's not act like children. Every PC game is released with day 1 blues.

Yea PCs are insane man! It's like totally impossible to even make code for them. I mean, oil refineries are automated by computers, movies are made by them. It's impossible!!!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:20 pm

Yea PCs are insane man! It's like totally impossible to even make code for them. I mean, oil refineries are automated by computers, movies are made by them. It's impossible!!!

Lol... what does that have to do with anything?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:04 am

Do you guys have any idea how complicated the PC platform is? Let's not act like children. Every PC game is released with day 1 blues.


Day 1 Blues has become the norm because we let it, but that is besides the point.

Never, once, ever, have I purchased a game that was completely and entirely unplayable. Bugs? Yes. Graphical Issues? Sure. Completely unplayable? Never.

You can defend bad behavior all you'd like it doesn't make it any more acceptable.

If I handed one of my clients code that completely didn't work in entirety, I'd be fired and they'd find a replacement, especially if they paid me in advance.


They should have hired more QA, brought in more beta-testers, or allowed public play-testers, or even all of the above if they needed a bigger test-bed. There is no excuse, period.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:56 pm

It's the drivers and not the game eh? Well dagnabit what is wrong with those nasty old drivers that are so biased against one game? Because the drivers I am using right now work fine for the other games I'm playing right now: Deus Ex Human Revolution, Dead Island and Lord of the Rings Online. Driver problem my a$$. The game doesn't even seem to have any native support for Crossfire or SLI which is pretty lame too.

I'm looking forward to playing this game, but right now the launch of the game is pretty disappointing.

Those games all use the DirectX graphics libraries. This game uses an alternate library called OpenGL. OpenGL has fallen out of favor in recent years as most developers have gravitated to DirectX. However: id Software traditionally has always used OpenGL. OpenGL drivers by not seeing as much use as DirectX ones have not been stress tested as much: it is almost certain that RAGE is the most demanding OpenGL title around. RAGE just by it's existence will expose and get fixed issues that have been in OpenGL but unnoticed for probably years.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:25 pm

Day 1 Blues has become the norm because we let it, but that is besides the point.

Never, once, ever, have I purchased a game that was completely and entirely unplayable. Bugs? Yes. Graphical Issues? Sure. Completely unplayable? Never.

You can defend bad behavior all you'd like it doesn't make it any more acceptable.

If I handed one of my clients code that completely didn't work in entirety, I'd be fired and they'd find a replacement, especially if they paid me in advance.


They should have hired more QA, brought in more beta-testers, or allowed public play-testers, or even all of the above if they needed a bigger test-bed. There is no excuse, period.

You have absolutely no clue about the gaming industry at all.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:08 pm

You have absolutely no clue about the gaming industry at all.

Yep, the years I spent working in it before starting up my own development firm meant nothing -- I'm clueless, I should burn my Masters in CS and find a different career path.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:48 pm

Day 1 Blues has become the norm because we let it, but that is besides the point.

Never, once, ever, have I purchased a game that was completely and entirely unplayable. Bugs? Yes. Graphical Issues? Sure. Completely unplayable? Never.

You can defend bad behavior all you'd like it doesn't make it any more acceptable.

If I handed one of my clients code that completely didn't work in entirety, I'd be fired and they'd find a replacement, especially if they paid me in advance.


They should have hired more QA, brought in more beta-testers, or allowed public play-testers, or even all of the above if they needed a bigger test-bed. There is no excuse, period.

Oh yeah, let's SHIP IT!:

http://www.trenchescomic.com/tales/post/ship-it

:celebration:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:04 am

Oh yeah, let's SHIP IT!:

http://www.trenchescomic.com/tales/post/ship-it

:celebration:

Yup, once again points out a major flaw in the industry, due to what we as consumers have grown to allow. An impossibility, but if we as consumers demanded a better product instead of a faster product, we'd have far better games that weren't rushed to production -- not taking into consideration accounting and quarterly earnings, but demanding a better product or not buying would kind of force a company's hand.

Imagine if a game company shipped a defective product and instead of us "accepting" the normal patches we as consumers refused to buy from that company again, extrapolate that to all gaming companies and all consumers, do you really think we'd be sitting here in this forum today having this discussion? Highly unlikely.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:16 pm

Yep, the years I spent working in it before starting up my own development firm meant nothing -- I'm clueless, I should burn my Masters in CS and find a different career path.

Proof?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:53 am

Honestly, for a developer who's roots come from the PC world to release this in this state is unbelievable. The first game I ever played was Doom and I was so excited for this, and I'm sure as many of you have, have been following this game since the second it was announced. This is the problem with porting your game from a console back to a pc. I've lost alot of respect for ID as a whole after this. I always thought ID of all companies would remember where they came from.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:20 pm

I always thought ID of all companies would remember where they came from.
and know how to find/fix the problems
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:36 am

Honestly, for a developer who's roots come from the PC world to release this in this state is unbelievable. The first game I ever played was Doom and I was so excited for this, and I'm sure as many of you have, have been following this game since the second it was announced. This is the problem with porting your game from a console back to a pc. I've lost alot of respect for ID as a whole after this. I always thought ID of all companies would remember where they came from.

Do you live under some form of rock? There's been a patch from AMD, the game is perfectly fine, it was a driver problem. Relax and play the game, it runs exactly as it should now.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:15 am

Are you kidding me? You certainly live under a rock, people are still having problems buddy look around you.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:02 am

The drivers are obviously a problem and not the game - this is a brand new engine making it totally different from any previous technology.

When it's enough fixed by ATI/Nvidia it will be fine - screen corruption and all that

This is an OPENGL game , not a directX one , There is probably no complexer or bigger openGL software as big as this game and the GPUs weren't prepared for it obviously.

I agree but, wouldn't you say it seems as though this wasn't beta tested very well on the pc if at all?? That's why I'm not happy right now. When I plunk down 60 bucks for a game
especially with ID logo attached to it I expect a great game, not to have a horizontal bar flicker across my screen every time I move my mouse. I think everyone else would agree
to that.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:17 pm

I agree but, wouldn't you say it seems as though this wasn't beta tested very well on the pc if at all?? That's why I'm not happy right now. When I plunk down 60 bucks for a game
especially with ID logo attached to it I expect a great game, not to have a horizontal bar flicker across my screen every time I move my mouse. I think everyone else would agree
to that.


DITTO!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:28 pm

Starting to wonder if ID's QA department even tested this game on PC's. They should have seen and solved these problems 6 months ago.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:47 pm

The devs are handed the APIs to use with the drivers and GPUs, so it is the developer's job to test on those platforms. Don't blame ATI/Nvidia when they have provided the drivers and graphics for use to the devs and the devs refused to conform to the specs and documents handed to them. Put the blame where it belongs, with id.

Instead, id, chose to optimize the game for consoles instead of PCs -- had they spent as much time on the PC optimization as they did with the consoles, this wouldn't be an issue.

The PS3 has been getting texture streaming lag as well, turning the camera fast will leave you with blurry textures. Even with madadtory 8gig install. This game's engine has some issues fundamentally. Don't lump the blame on consoles like you PC Elitist always do.
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