First, there are no three Skyrims. Let's be honest. Most games do not last that long.

Second, if you want to go that route and buy three games instead of play ESO, nobody is stopping you. Options are always nice.

Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim.

You just proved my point. Very rare.

It only works with a game you previously purchased. We could also talk movies, or what cable TV package you're subscribed to? How many beers you drink in a social environment?

I felt like at first you were going to argue my point, but then I guess you turned around to agree with it... I'm not sure.

Again it would have to be a game you previously purchased, but quick calculations tell me that you're willing to drop $150 on new releases that will give you an average of what, 60 hours game play? That's probably reaching... GTA5 may give you 60, the other two, 20, 30?

$150 for 140 hours, but you've chosen to complain about a game that will -easily- give you hundreds of hours, and costs $225 for a year. Not even counting the fact that those other "Buy to play" games will have multiple DLC's that come out for them that you'll have to buy to even come close to those hour numbers... It's just ignorance or bad math.

Honestly I have no idea what I'm trying to argue. I guess that in the end MMO's and single player games for the same price even each other out when it comes to played time.

Some people do want to pay for something they enjoy. I know I was one of the people who, after an author whose work I really enjoyed put up a story for free on their website, asked them to release it on Amazon. They didn't want to, because they would have to charge, even if it was a nominal 99 cents. People kept asking though, and they did. I paid for a free story, just to keep the series I really enjoyed in one place on my kindle. I joined in the kickstarter for Project Infinity, with no guarantee there would be a game at all if it didn't work out.

Not everyone has the same viewpoint.

Nowadays especially... That's the funny thing, ESO has a single player campaign that rivals (or exceeds) Skyrims... no one will argue Skyrim wasn't worth a $60 price tag. Even if you only play it for a month and get 80-120 hours out of it... for gods sake, that's so much better value than any other game on the market. Single player games these days worth their salt always have multiple DLC's in the $10 price range, you're paying monthly anyway! The difference is how much MORE value you get out of an MMO, especially one so massive.

There is no argument... The people complaining simply haven't admitted they're wrong yet, because it's so hard to do.

This!

I mean think about it... you guys are looking at this "game" as something that you deserve. Let go of your entitlements for moment and think about the years and years that people have sunk their talents, their hearts and souls into creating this product. I paid $60 for GW2, actually $120 (bought one for my wife)... She played for 8 hours total, I played maybe 20... but I don't regret it really. Yeah, I think the game svcked... but those artists, those guys plugging away at code all day, the story writers... They deserve it.

I guess I'm just getting older... The entitlements stopped for me, I don't feel like they OWE this game to me free of charge, and I'm willing to support their hard work. The bottle of rum I drank last night cost more than a month of game time... 2 hours of smiles and a hangover, or 100 hours of entertainment.... Hrm.

a GTA game will only net me 60 hours? This statement alone tells me all I need to know. Not even sure how to tackle that one.

I've also repeatedly stated that it's not about the subscription fees, it's about value for the consumer and having a choice about how invested one wishes to be in the game. It's really not a complicated notion at all, I'm not sure what you're not understanding here.