Look at the razer blade. Cyberpowerpc ibuypower. /etc

This is the one you're thinking of buying right? With the i7?

I don't know enough to say, but it's better than mine and therefore, looks beastly.

You should be A-Okay with that laptop for ESO anywhere from High to Ultra. Not sure what the exact difference between the desktop GPU and laptop GPU is for the 650, however the specs alone of your Laptop should be perfectly fine!

High to ultra? That's a 650m. That's just slightly worse than a GTX 550ti.

Depending on how the games resources are allocated, you'll be looking at Medium Settings, 1980 x 1080 @ 60FPS, In really busy towns/cities, around 40FPS.

The CPU is slightly better than the i5 3570k @ stock clocks, but that GPU is rather lack-luster if you want High/Ultra on an MMO. If you set it to Ultra, you'll drop to 40FPS in the world, and drop to 30 in Towns/Cities I presume, but again, that all depends on how ESO's resources are allocated.

5400RPM for a HDD is TERRIBLE for that price. You'll have extremely slow loading screens, and a lot of menus will take a while to load. You could always upgrade that to an SSD, or at least a 7200RPM HDD minimum. Because you're having a 32GB SSD, it means it's ONLY bootdrive; In other words, you will not be able to install any programs or games onto your SSD. The thing with SSD's, the more full they become, their performance greatly diminishes. A good rule for SSD's is to never go below 15%-20% of the maximum capacity.

Anyways...

Don't get a laptop for gaming unless you're willing to splash out over ￡800/$1200. You can get a system 30% more powerful then a gaming laptop, for ￡600.

Another Edit: Never look for Dell/Alienware crap. Look for custom laptops at least.

If you really want to go the laptop route. Check out sagernotebook.com. they're better than alienwares and for a lot less ( they custom build them and they are built to last.)

As far as a barmoter, I am thinking that Guild Wars 2 is going to be a pretty healthy comparison FPS wise for your hardware purchasing.

And if you are buying a new system get an SSD, there is no reason you shouldn't.

Oh, except theyre extremely costly, have very little memory capacity, and provide almost no real benefit in game, or anything really what so ever. You might save 5 seconds on a loading screen... Despite that i have twin SSD in Raid 0, but that was a personal choice and i had the cash to drop.

Despite that you said you want a laptop, i'd still highly suggest a desktop. The performance for price when you compare desktops to laptops is about 3:1... A 3000$ laptop is worth about a 1200$ full buy in (no carry over parts) custom PC... And with that out of the way...

Asus, Sager, and believe it or not Alienware are my 3 choices. People spit on alienware but the fact is that their laptop prices are competitive in the 2000$ range, mentioning you can get an 18 inch screen where most other companies dont even offer one, for the same price as their equivalently geared 17 inches... If you want to just have a small, but still powerful laptop, i'd recommend Sony's S series... They have, imo, the best laptops of their size, for a reasonable price...

However, for a real gaming laptop i'd look for something worth no less than 1500, being that you cant upgrade the damn things. For a PC, you could drop 600 (for the same performance, maybe better), and then upgrade it at will.

I would never, ever recommend a mac for anything other than digital media work. Theyre expensive for their hardware, and aren't designed as gaming platforms...

I can go out now and buy a 240GB Kingston HyperX 3k SSD for ￡139, which is extremely cheap in comparison to the price of what it was last year; It was almost double. (Please note, PC parts in the UK are much more expensive than the US, even after currency conversions)

And I agree with everything else you've said

Eh the speed cannot be matched, and the reduction in loading screen and application launch times adds up over a long period of time. There is no comparison to the time you save here and there, its cummulative. If you are burning the dough on a new system, you might as well burn a little on a nice boot/priamry game drive. They're cheap enough these days for a 128GB. No benefit in an MMO? Your off your rocker, MMO is the genre of loading screen.

Well, the value of an ssd isnt really the time you save over time. Its the frustration you save in loading screens. Also I think an ssd in a laptop has some value in that there is no chance of it going bad if you drop it.

Right, because saving maybe 5 seconds every 2 hours is really worth the spending and slashing the amount of storage space you have into literally a fraction of what you could have had for the same price... Consider who were talking about here before badgering me with these kind of comments...

SSD's are a straight up luxury item. You'll end up paying the same price for 1/10th the memory, or you'll still have hardly any hard drive space and wind up with a garbage SSD thats comparatively slow and might fail. Not only that but the time you save during loading is so minimal, most people will hardly notice. Its like buying top notch RAM for your system... If he would really care about loading times, which being that he isnt a hardcoe PC gamer i doubt it, its vastly cheaper to put 2 HDD in RAID 0, almost as fast, and you dont get gypped on drive space.

In a middle/low end system, its a waste of money. ESPECIALLY if its his only HD in the thing, he'll seriously regret the lack of storage space... Which unless he splurges and gets dual drives (also feasible but equally unlikely since again, not a PC gamer) he'll likely be stuck with only a 128 or 256 gig drive... That'll fill up quick. As Dervy said, soon as it hits around 80-90% full its perks quickly start going away...

I used to build budget systems for a hobby. This is the exact kind of misconception people have about things that leads people to waste cash on things they regret, like how i keep telling people that more cores /= better...

As I said in my post, I wasn't sure what the difference was between the 650 desktop version which I have experienced and the 650M which I have not. But everything else should be okay to run ESO.

I'm looking to get my first gaming PC. It'll be probably around July when I get it. I really want to run this game. Would this PC also run Skyrim with graphic mods with no problem?
http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4959029&Sku=C477-G1410

I am no expert but yeah it looks good enough.

Wait for the minimum specs to be released. Why are people so impatient?

Change the processor. The rest of the hardware seems okay though for that price I'd say they're cheeping out on something else...

Nothing wrong with asking the question and no one is forcing you to partake inn this thread.

But yeah OP, it will run the game on med, i like intel to be honest.

I wouldn't go for the FX-series if you're looking to use your computer for gaming.

Processor made me cry

Yeah I would change the CPU and motherboard so you can use intel, they seem to have the best preformance currently, and personally I would go intel CPU with an nvidia display card. Of course someone is probably going to say I am dead wrong but thats my personal preference.

It's because I want a gaming computer. Not just or this but I should at least ask before I spend big bucks and then find out this game won't run on it. Even though the specs to run this game are not out most of these guys can tell if it will be ok for running on a certain computer. Plus this is a huge step for me. I've never played a game on PC. I play console but I am sick of Sony.

Dear OP,

This computer should run ESO on Medium to High quality, however I personally an AMD fan do have to admit that any CPU under the AMD FX-6200 is not worth it. The performance just sadly isn't there. Also another reason they are probably using AMD in this build is because AMD is cheaper. The FX series uses a CPU socket that can be put into an older motherboard, keeping this PC more then likely $150.00-$250.00 less if you were to get a good motherboard.

I suggest if you are going to go with a gaming pc is to not rush the process. Save your money till you have $1,000.00 or more to spend. The reason for this is because if your going to spend the money on a gaming computer you might as well pay more in order to keep everything relatively top notch. This PC under my experiences is starting to become out dated because the graphic card is simply not able to process the graphics data on the newer games now, and the CPU is well just simply not very good. I also suggest to drop Windows 8 for Windows 7, because Windows 7 is cheaper, will work better for games and applications in general, and it gives you more administrative property over your system. Windows 8 was purely made for the new generation laptops that have touch screen and are the half laptop/tablet combination, so the OS won't be very fluid with a mouse.

I say go and either bump your CPU to at least an AMD FX-6200 or higher or go into Intel and look at either their i5 2500K or i7 2600K which are lower in price compared to Intels new CPU's but they are just as powerful. Lose Windows 8 for Windows 7 Pro x64bit at least, and bump that AMD 6670 for anything above a 7850, and you should be able to run ESO on High if not Ultra. Also more ram later on would be nice to!

If you have any questions just ask!!

My Build:

OS: Windows 7 Professional x64 Bit
Ram: 16Gb's of 1600Mhz G.Skill Ripjaws
Motherboard: Gigabyte 990UDA-FXA ATX
CPU: AMD FX-6200 Six Core 3.8Ghz (OC to 4.5Ghz)
HDD: 2TB 7200 RPM
SSD: 128Gb's
GPU: Gigabyte 7970 Ghz Edition
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer
Mouse: Razor Molten Naga
Keyboard: Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard

A lot of people go and tell others who ask the same question as you, to not listen to anyone because the requirements are not out yet..

I say screw them, the requirements we need are already out and not hard to find. Just go and look up the most Recent MMORPG out to date, so a good example of this would be Guild Wars 2. Now go and look up the required specs for that game or look to see if you can't find out what hardware will be able to push the game up to Ultra settings, go and see what the price is for that hardware, and then remove or add hardware as you see fit to get the results you want. Trust me if you have a PC that can run Guild Wars 2 on Ultra then you will be PERFECTLY fine for ESO.

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)


System Model: Aspire M5620
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
Page File: 2798MB used, 5390MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9440)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)

Display Memory: 2296 MB
Dedicated Memory: 505 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)


What about THIS?! Bahahaha, 5 year old PC ftw. Seriously though, can run Skyrim on max with no drop in FPS, so I think I should be fine"?

You have a good laptop here and if you can play Skyrim on Max settings then you should be perfectly fine, however your CPU may lack a little in the power department, because MMO's take more CPU power then graphics unlike Singleplayer games. I personally can not give you a exact because I have never owned the Intel? Core?2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz So I am un able to compare it to a computer I had that had a Intel Core 2 Duo, Dual Core 2.4Ghz processor in it. But you should at least be okay anywhere from Medium to High if not Ultra. Still a little difficult to say yet, but like I had said above, check out Guild Wars 2 and look for its Ultra Settings compared to what hardware can run it and see if your laptop meets the standards.