I liked the first two Tobey Macguire Spiderman movies well enough too, but surely they weren't that good? I had doubts about this new one too, but decided to give it a chance because Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. I'm glad I did.

You'll get nothing but contempt from me when it comes to, well, most of the things the film industry does. I can't stand "reboots", "re-imaginings", "different adaptations", etc. Like how Hollywood feels the need to make an American version of every single good foreign film ever (Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Let The Right One In, REC). All this crap is for is to make a quick buck with material that's already been done. It just pisses me off.

The original "Spider-Man 1 & 2" were really good films but "Spider-Man 3" took more liberties with the "Spider-man mythos" that it killed the franchise for a lot of people.

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There are rumours it might be Red Skull seen as he is the one in the comics who kills Peter's parents.

So by that logic, Mass Effect should be done all over again because the ending to 3 was a mess. So what if the third movie was the worst of the bunch? That's usually the case in most trilogies anyway.

The reboot was necessary because the first movies had Tobey Maguire, and he's as bad an actor as Alec Baldwin and Nicholas Cage combined.

It's been like 10 years since the start of the last Spiderman Trilogy. In retrospect the Toby Macguire weren't that good namely because Peter was written as a whiny teenage moron.

And yet the trilogy was generally positively received, save for some disagreements with the third. So because you don't like an actor in a movie, it should be redone with somebody else? This is why I've stopped watching movies for the most part. People and the producers all want to change the dumbest, most insignificant crap because it wasn't "perfect". Here's an idea: Just keep remaking Spiderman 1 with different actors and directors until one of them is universally loved. I can't wait to see it in 2060, if I'm still alive and caring.

The third movie was so bad, the collateral damage caused a rip in time and space to make the previous ones svck retroactively.

Well, people love lots of things that are total crap. Though that comment goes only to Tobey Maguire's acting; I thought the second Spiderman movie was pretty good overall, and the first would have been amazing if it had someone like Andrew Garfield instead of Maguire. Willem Dafoe did a fantastic job as the Green Goblin imo. The third was obviously terrible and couldn't have been saved by any actor.

I'd give The Amazing Spiderman a shot if I were you, it really is quite good.

I'll pass. I'd rather never watch movies again than waste my time watching everybody attempt to make the same [censored] one over and over again. And that's pretty much what this industry is comprised of anymore. Anyway, sorry for bringing my signature buttfrustration into your thread, Tranq. I'll show myself out.

Thus putting Spider-man in the next Avengers. Woo!

Not quite. There are 3 Red Skulls in the Marvel universe; Caps Archenemy, A Red Skull who kills Peters parents and I believe the other was working with the Original Red Skull.

That's the reason they're remaking the Spider-Man series, so they can fit him into the Avengers.

Well they did try to get the Oscorp Tower into the Avengers film but sadly the designs weren't ready at the time. They're remaking it because Spiderman 3 was so bad it hurt time itself and if Sony don't keep making Spidey films they'll lose the rights to it (Which I want to happen.)

But they are trying to link the franchises which is nice.

and why are you laughing Subtonic?

Sony owns the rights for Spider-Man movies. Avengers is part of Marvel's fairly new internal movie company. I can see how Sony would want in on the action now though after the numbers Avengers pulled.

Because everything is hilarious.

George Maxon, Johann Schmidt, Albert Malik.

George was a dopple ganger for Johann Schmidt who was the real Red Skull. George was an American turned Nazi defector while Johann was a Nazi. Albert Malik was an imposter during the 1950's, he used the Red Skull's popularity as a way to rise through the criminal underworld. He was in fact an ex KGB, he was also responsible for killing both of Peter Parker's parents.

On a related note, the ORIGINAL Red Skull has no super powers. BUT, his mind was transplanted into a clone body of Captain America and then injected with the super soldier serum which gave the cloned Red Skull all of Captain America's super powers.

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I thought that the primary reason Sony and Fox keep pumping out Spiderman and X-men films (respectively) is so that the rights don't revert back to Marvel. (I definitely know that's the case with Fox.)

Indeed that is the exact reason, which is why we are getting an Origins sequel probably so they can butcher another great character (Deadpool is the Merc with a Mouth damnit.)

I doubt there will be any tie to red skull/anything avengers related because of different rights ownership.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the movie.

The end credits scene was stupid and disappointing. Also, I find it perplexing how people seem to think it must be someone who can teleport or turn to mist or something. I don't know if you guys watched the same movie I did, but the dude just stepped in and out of a shadow - it doesn't take any magic powers to do that. I'd say it's almost certainly Norman Osborne.

I like the Mysterio theory, presented here:
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/05/the-amazing-spider-man-five-after-credits-scene-theories/

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that, though it does seem less likely to me now. It was made pretty clear in the movie that Norman Osborn is terminally ill while the events of The Amazing Spiderman take place, so for him to show up apparently hale and hearty in prison seems very strange.

One one hand it would be awesome if it were Morbius (he's a vampire, and not the lame sparkly kind either), but it also wouldn't make any sense at all. The most likely explanation imo is that Curt Connors is talking to himself. That would imply that the serum only temporarily suppressed, but didn't cure his Lizard mutation, so he can make an awesome comeback in the inevitable sequel (perhaps joining with Spiderman against whatever bad guy they pick then).