It's not everyone's cup of tea. No big deal. :shrug:

I do hate COD. Its like the Michael Bay movies of video games. All explosions and dudebro and no actually story or innovative gameplay. Just the same lame cut and paste storyline and gameplay for 3 games.

Battlefield 3 though, oh man count me in on that.

They never take their time, always coming out with a new CoD every year. Nothing unique ala Guitar Hero, short and shallow campaigns, failure of plot lines, basically the majority of CoD fans (12 year old immature ***holes), etc.


There's tons I could nit pick at too.




Frontline. My first FPS. So many great things about that game. Level design, soundtrack, sound effects, art, all good stuff. Too bad no one seemed to notice.

Do share. I've never played CoD so I can't comment. I have however, seen these two comments and comments similar to them far too many times without people actually backing their posts. So do tell us

EDIT: For the sensitive types on the forums, this isn't supposed to be a dike head post. I really am curious as to why people hate the game. People say "I have tons of reasons" then I never see those reasons. Except for the classic "12 year old [censored]" one.



Well no wonder people on these forums hate it then! :laugh:

Playing Devil's Advocate, I will admit that the last few COD games haven't really been that innovative.

But personally, I still don't see why so many people have to passionately hate COD just because of that. After all, why fix what isn't broken? As for the whole "full of 12 year olds" arguments, I can safely say that almost every single game franchise is full of them. I don't get why COD has to be targetted as being an attractant for 12-year olds, when an equal amount of immature gamers also infest other games.

All right then (cracks knuckles) let's do this.


First of all, no matter what people say. The true hate from CoD from most people comes from three things.

1. Activision (Greed, bad business strategy, expensive DLC, etc. More on this in a second)

2. The Fanbase (12 year olds, stoners, failures, and bad mouthers galore. People love to hate on CoD fans almost as much as CoD fans hate everyone.)

3. Popularity (Sheer popularity. Rebelling against what is the most popular. While not always smart, I believe it's justified by the actual game)

Notice the lack of the actual game in this. While some CoD games are indeed terrible, it's not one of the main reasons people hate on it.

First of all let's address number 1. Activision

The new EA. Activision is truly evil. Why is this do you ask? Hold on son, I'm figurin to be explainin'.
To understand why Activision is evil we must first understand their business strategy. They find a successful franchise, come out with a new game that declines in quality every year. It sells well at first, sales start to decline. So badly eventually that the series dies and Activision throws it in a waste bucket and looks for the next franchise. They have also been known to kill a series for the sake of the one that's doing well at the moment (True Crime, sorry Antibody).

This is obviously a terrible strategy as opposed to other gaming companies that take 2-4 years to come out with a new, and exciting product.(Even longer for games like L.A. Noire) As opposed to the whole same thing-same thing plan of Activision. They are also known to have ridiculously overpriced DLC packs, and collector's editions. And to typically spend more on marketing than the game itself. All of this greed and hunger for money over good games is what tortures the true gamers who want quality products and not the same lights and smoke show they saw last year. Only this time with an extra firework blast.


Now for number 2. The Fans


Oh how I loathe...no..ABHOR those fans. These are your so called "12 year olds". The bane of the CoD franchise other than Activision itself.

What could be worse than sitting down, trying to enjoy some multiplayer, when suddenly you hear a woman come on the voice chat. She is suddenly bombarded with hatred, requests to make sammiches, and scathing remarks that I can't say on the forum. And us gamers wonder why woman won't have a round of DOOM with us?

The reason for these insults and attacks? The pure immaturity of the CoD fanbase. Unfortunately CoD seems to attract idiots and simpletons (possibly due to its outrageous simplicity). So when you're on a forum, on a youtube video, on CoD multiplayer, or anywhere. You can find the CoD fan, just waiting to announce his pwnage of you to his 6 year old friends. So there's a big reason to hate the CoD franchise altogether for many people, it isn't exactly a shining beacon of intelligence. Not to mention people who play CoD can't seem to play much else. This is the definition of close minded for many.


Number 3. Popularity.


Not much to say here, other than humans have a tendency to rebel. So when something is really big and famous? Time for the haters to jump out of the bushes.


MY reasons (other than fans) Which actually includes the games itself.


The Games.

First of, the Call Of Duty franchise is not what's bad. It's the fans and Activision that's bad. Although there are the recent games which I'm about to get into.

Here are the CoD games that I have played and my anolysis of them

Call Of Duty

Fun game, interesting missions, extremely challenging, etc. I like it! Not as fun as MoH: Frontline though. 4/5

Call Of Duty 2

Same as CoD 1, just better. 4/5

Call Of Duty: World At War

A gritty, realistic version of WWII. Great art and style, a willingness to show the true sickness of the second World War. A sense of uniqueness for a lot of the game occurring in the Pacific. Great engine (remember, I never played CoD 4 so this is like my first taste of that CoD style.), I liked the characters, the graphics were great, the multiplayer was fun, although some disgusting fans, etc. 4/5

Modern Warfare 2

Here's were things get really sloppy. Wait a minute..isn't this the exact same thing I just played last year with some new features and a modern theme? Hmm....
I'm also noticing this is very much like Michael Bay, the game. Explosions, guns, no story, no good characters, fans got even worse on multiplayer, highly overrated, the Activision thing, very cartoony, no sense of grit or realism ala WaW, etc, I hate this game.

2/5

Call Of Duty: Black Ops

One year later... and here I can playing the same thing, just a hell of a lot crappier. The fans are even worse, none of the multiplayer maps are interesting. The guns are boring, killstreaks are terrible, and everyone is so boring cause they just use the Ak-47u
The campaign was even worse, I beat the campaign in one day. It was super short. It had a terrible plot, Veteran was cheap with its respawning characters and grenade spam. The characters were awful and had no development (Mason Woods got best character of the year or something at Spike Awards. The hell? He was nothing but a cliche Vietnam soldier), I could have just watched Full Metal Jacket or Deer Hunter if they really wanted me to see a bunch of cliche Vietnam movie stuff. Explosions, guns, and more explosions make a return to excite the simple minded fools playing the game. There's no tactics whatsoever and it's extremely linear. Enough hating on the game, I didn't even mention the cheap collector's editions, overpriced DLC, insanely big marketing campaign, fact that MW3 will be out this November, so on and so forth.
0/5
Seeing the Activision plan here? They are getting worse and worse. Another point I failed to mention until now is that people are upset that everyone is trying to compete with CoD rather than make something unique. So now not only do you have CoD but you have people who don't have to be CoD trying to be that way. So to put it simple, why would I be playing Call Of Duty when I could be playing Heavy Rain, Fallout 1 + 2, Morrowind, etc?

If you want me to go into further detail on anything let me know.... /rant.

:trophy: for being the first member here to actually man-up (or human-up for those women rights folks) and say why they hate it. Thank you good sir. Though I cannot agree or disagree with these, having only played CoD 2 with a few friends locally, I commend you for being the only person on these forums to finally defend their opinion on this series. For shame on everyone else.

I don't hate COD per se. I loved the WWII ones because they were great to play particularly the Russian campaign. I liked COD4 but after that I didn't buy any more. They just seemed pointless to me. The campaign which I like to play is what? Eight hours long maybe I'm not sure then its all about the multiplayer which I don't like because the standard is so high. Just not my cup of tea really so its easy for me to join in and laugh at those Facebook groups like:

When i was your age, COD was a fish
"will you marry me" " i'm on COD atm hun, just let me capture this flag"
If a guy replies to your text while he's playing COD; he really loves you.
Can we have six? Not now... I'm 4 kills away from a nuke on COD...
He Broke Her Heart, She Smashed His Copy Of COD. Who Cried The Most?
COD. Bringing down pormography by 79% since 2003

took the words right out of my mouth. literally.... give them back....

Well, i played MW trough only recently. A decent enough realistic modern shooter but i don't see what's so great about it. Killzones and Crysis 2 is more fun for their non-realistic setting and weapons. But of course, i don' do multiplayer so the major aspect of that game is utterly lost on me

And Allied Assault forever! :rock:

I think if a shooter takes anything from COD it should be the kill streaks. It's a nice mechanic if used right.

Call of Duty 4, Call of Duty World at War, Call of Duty Modern Warfare, Call of Duty Black Ops are the same game. Thats why I don't like it, also Cod all dumb down all FPS games.
The people who play Cod makes me want to break my Xbox, PS3 and PC.


But,

World at War was ok, only because of zombies (still have)
black ops was crap, only reason I still have it is because of zombies (still have)

The whole experience/streak/numbers and messages everywhere stuff really bloats the multiplayer experience beyond what's needed. I hate how all other FPS devs feel like they have to include the same stuff now. Can you imagine if Valve released a Counter-Strike 2 using that crap? Hell, it was bad enough for me when they updated CS:S with achievements. Little boxes popping up all the time just for doing meaningless little things was annoying and distracting.

It's popular with the mainstream because it makes players feel rewarded even if they keep losing.

The CoDs that I've played briefly are vastly inferior to better FPS games, namely Counter-Strike Source. The exception is CoD:II, which I played quite a bit. CoD:4 was pretty bad in comparison and those that followed didn't improve. I want some kind of strategy in a shooter, but not too much of it. CS:S has money every round that makes things fun and complicated- sure its not as realistic but it has a better game setup.

I just don't get whats so fun about CoD 4+...

But still, that doesn't mean COD deserves all the hate that it receives.

CoD4 started the death of the series, MW2 finished it, and Black Ops tried to pull itself out of the grave like a zombie, but in the end, it's the zombies themselves that kill the game.

My issue with the CoD4, MW2, and Black Ops is that they all have ridiculous story lines, and lame multiplayer. In CoD4, I'm extremely deadly with everything except sniper rifles, and going 25-0 for seven straight games is boring. In MW2, they nerfed the weapons (or gave us more health) so killing my adversaries takes more bullets, which is annoying. I don't even need to get started on Black Ops. Don't get me wrong, I like playing zombies with my friends, but when you integrate that crap into the storyline of the game... :flame:

What's going on here is that Activision, Treyarch, and used-to-be Infinity Ward literally have (had) no idea what they're doing with this franchise anymore, and all they're doing it milking it for every penny it could possibly earn until it's last breath.

Modern Warfare 2 was fun, I had my moments in it, but really the hate comes from two things in my opinion.

1. Like you said "they didn't really innovate the franchise since COD4" They pump out basically the same game year after year and milk it for whats its worth. You can argue that they're a company and they're supposed to make money, but you can also argue that this isnt the best business practice considering long term effects. This will catch up to them and eventually they will lose another title.

2. The community itself, the CoD stereotype is a stereotype for a reason, it holds truth. That a lot of the people who play are immature kids. The kids I know play CoD, and when I did play MW2 I could tell by what went on in chat.

I've only really played The Big Red One and I didn't think it was all that great (at least the singleplayer campaign as I've never played an online multiplayer match nor do I have the desire to have one) :shrug:

That being said I don't know the quality of the other games and they really don't appeal to me at all. Just as I hear a lot of flak about jrpgs and how they svck you're going to hear a lot of irrational hate (whether it's just because it's the cool thing to hate now or otherwise) towards the Call of Duty series.

Overall though, in then end really it just boils down to this:

There are 3 games in existence that I like.

Quake 3 CPMA
- Developed non-stop since Quake 3 launch
- More finished than any other game in the world

"When you got a elitist community and an elitist developer, guess what you get?"
"The best gameplay, netcode, and feature set there is." -arQon (lead developer of CPMA)

RTCW: Enemy Territory
- Incredible netcode and hit detection
- Great design, great flow of gameplay
(- trivia: arQon, the lead designer of Quake 3 CPMA co-wrote the code for the Enemy Territory netcode)


Modern Warfare 2
- Tied with Enemy Territory with the best hit detection out of any game I've played.
^ - Yes, there's lag sometimes, but your bullets simply hit their target every time.
- The game works, plain and simple. I have zero tolerance for buggy games.
- There are flaws, I admit that. Unbalanced weapons, killstreaks are silly at times, but I like it. Brainless aim practice.


As you can see, all these games use an id Tech engine, and that is the biggest reason to their success. The id Tech engines are amazing, they are relatively light compared to how good they can look and they simply work. The level of netcode possible on an id Tech engine is incredible, which gives me a spark of hope for Brink, since it also uses an id Tech engine.

Having played id Tech engine games for so many years, all other engines feel like sheit

Because every few minutes you get yet another achievement with some lame ass music and powerman scream, giving you a false sense of accomplishment, and brainwashing you to join the army.

Its the community. COD fan boys do 'nothing' but talk their game up and other games down. They defend its bad aspects to the death, no matter how bad they really are and 'flame' anyone for thinking otherwise.

Its not the games fault. Though ive played most of the games and vow never to touch the awful things. (sorry thats just my opinion)
Sadly this is the way most really popular game, communities, turn out to be. It cant be helped.

A good example of this:
G4 had recently seen Zelda the winner of their "Battle of the franchise" competition. The Zelda [censored] done nothing but, abuse and be-little anyone who thought that their game wasnt the better franchise. Even though the game beat giants like 'Halo', 'Assassins Creed'. 'Mass Effect 2', 'GTA4', and 'Star craft 2'
All but GTA4 i felt were much better than Zelda. But nostalgia won in the end.

I am personally a MASSIVE Halo fan. Ive played the engine for the last 10 years and cant get enough of it. However my online experience is left lacking thanks to the 'idiots' who exploit hacks and mods. And those who support them mind you. I cant go on Bungie.net and talk about it because those hackers are also the vocal minority who roam the forums looking for fights.
So i just eat my cup of concrete and battle my way through it all.

Again its not the game, its COD's community that receives the flack. If you're apart of that community, you just have to bare it sadly.

I personally love the Call of Duty franchise but, I dont like the way activision treats their customers (and plus I hate that they dropped Tony Hawk I mean c'mon those games were a blast) but mainly what Im trying to say is that there is no reason to hate a video game, if you dont like it dont buy it, especially dont buy it and then complain that you bought it.

This was indeed one of the most annoying parts of MW2 in the beginning.