Problem is that it would have made it a little less accessible for newbies to ES so I can understand why they removed it.

I agree, they removed speed and jumping height, but Strength, Endurance, Willpower and all of those just added to either M/H/S. Yes Strength added to Melee damage, but it was such a fractional amount, it was hardly noticeable. Now we have perks that influence those levels bar a greater margin.

Before we just had 4 perks per skill that was forced upon the player, now we have many to actually make a choice from.

Okay, I know this is not a popular opinion, but hear me out. (although I will admit, I didn't appreciate birthsigns and attributes to be removed)

The reason I didn't like it was because it felt like an arbitrary technicality. I could technically pick warrior but only use magic for the entire game. Thus, I didn't feel like a warrior, I knew I was a mage, but my character being labeled as a warrior just felt annoying. It was like someone telling me that I shouldn't be a mage because I was supposed to be a warrior. Again, I knew I was a mage, screw what some menu said. Now, your class is what you make of it throughout your entire playthrough. The only reason I could think it would be useful was to cheat the system and stay at level one the whole time.

No, it makes my character less.
Now Im just a name, and have no profession.

For roleplaying purposes and replayability I prefer lots of skills (about twice what Skyrim has), attributes, classes and birthsigns,

In Skyrim, we are reduced to race and race has become something cosmetic.
Its pitiful.

Aren't the classes the same as birthsigns? They are still based on the lore of the constellations. Only difference is that you can choose a different sign throughout your character's life, which I think is a huge benefit.

No, it makes my character less.
Now Im just a name, and have no profession.

For roleplaying purposes and replayability I prefer lots of skills (about twice what Skyrim has), attributes, classes and birthsigns,

In Skyrim, we are reduced to race and race has become something cosmetic.
Its pitiful.

i didn't have any problem understanding how the system worked first time i played Oblivion, and that was my first RPG, I keep wondering who these people are can't seem to figure anything out themself

I really enjoy Skyrim's new system. It means I can play how I want to play.

I agree that they should have added more skills, attributes and birthsigns, but classes, again, not too crazy about them.

and how could you not do that in Oblivion or Morrowind or any other tes?

Aren't the classes the same as birthsigns? They are still based on the lore of the constellations. Only difference is that you can choose a different sign throughout your character's life, which I think is a huge benefit.

I don't know, can you change your date of birth if you feel like it?

i agree, but especially on birthing, it's such a small bonus, what does it matter if some new players picked the wrong sign?

BECAUSE MINOR SKILLS RESTRICTED YOU LAWLZ.

No, but it's just a feature placed in to make your character, whatever they are portraying to be, more fun to play. So, you want your birthsign to stay as one thing for the character you create?

There was difference of day and night between the Apprentice and the Atronach.
One could say that the first made mages easy-mode and the latter hardcoe-mode.

This mattered because it took effect from the beginning of the game and could not be changed.
It was a part of your character.

In what way? please don't use capital letters

Those are Standing Stones, and from what I've heard in Oblivion, you could both have a Standing Stone and Birthsign.

I want birthsigns and attributes back, but I'm not that upset about classes being removed, but maybe that's because I'm not too clear what classes did in older games and how they made others react to you. Did they actually have an effect on the world and what your player could do, or were they more like the races in Skyrim are, where every once in a while someone might note your race but other than that it doesn't feel different?

I'm being sarcastic.

I want birthsigns and attributes back, but I'm not that upset about classes being removed, but maybe that's because I'm not too clear what classes did in older games and how they made others react to you. Did they actually have an effect on the world and what your player could do, or were they more like the races in Skyrim are, where every once in a while someone might note your race but other than that it doesn't feel different?

I realise that, those were extreme, but for most other signs, like the warrior or the mage, the serpent, it never mattered.

Why not? It tells me what month my character was born in.