The Traveler's Tavern (International Inquiries II)

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:26 am

Wait, so you guys actually have shops dedicated to donuts? :ohmy: I am amazed, seriously.

http://www.dunkindonuts.com/ ?
User avatar
Jonathan Windmon
 
Posts: 3410
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:23 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:37 pm

Wait, so you guys actually have shops dedicated to donuts? :ohmy: I am amazed, seriously.
Donuts are quite the fuss 'round here. There are small non-commerical shops all over and then there's the commerical stuff from places like Dunkin' Donuts and Krispy Kreme. They usually serve donuts, bagels, muffins, coffee, and specialty coffees (like frappes and mochas), and some do smoothies. Personally, I think the best donuts are from my local grocery store, but they never have the same selection as the actual donut shops.
User avatar
jennie xhx
 
Posts: 3429
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:28 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:49 am

So anyone outside of the US - what's your favorite meal from around your area/country?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pea_soup#Netherlands? :tongue:
User avatar
Kat Ives
 
Posts: 3408
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:11 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:58 am

Wait, so you guys actually have shops dedicated to donuts? :ohmy: I am amazed, seriously.
Really? Then my friend you should really try Angel's Bakery in Brooklyn, on Norman ave.. where they sell Muffin tops.

Not the bottom bit, just the muffin top.

Because in new York city, you can get anything.

http://www.policesecrets.com/?p=155

http://www.dunkindonuts.com/ ?
Orhttp://krispykreme.com/home? :drool:
User avatar
Latisha Fry
 
Posts: 3399
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:42 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:11 am

He also told me there was about 20,000 characters in the Chinese language, and that it was normal for someone to only know 7000-8000 of these at any one time, because there was lots of different ways of saying things.
If you think about it, it's only like English having 26 characters, but thousands of words that can be made from it. No need for hundreds of keyboard keys.

Generally two most common systems to type in Chinese. The pinyin and phonetic are the same, just different key placement. As the name suggested, phonetic.

The second one is Tsang Jie, predominantly used around Canton region. It's far more complicated and one must grasp the pictogram structure for each Chinese word. By combining the "root" key for each shape, you scrabble out the final word. It's getting less used with the rise of smartphones, when everyone just wrote them down with freehand.
User avatar
C.L.U.T.C.H
 
Posts: 3385
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:23 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:20 am

Wait, so you guys actually have shops dedicated to donuts? :ohmy: I am amazed, seriously.

Irish donuts svck. :( I spent a summer in Canada and worked in a Tim Horton's for a couple of months while there, and their donuts were amazing. Irish donuts are doughy and bland.

Our bagels svck too. :(
User avatar
sam smith
 
Posts: 3386
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:55 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:24 pm

All I mean is that the French language is way too conservative for its own good. It's like it has mostly been kept frozen in more or less the same state than it was in the 19th century.

No, I don't think that children shouldn't be taught grammar (to avoid mistakes like "je suis aller") but grammar rules could use some simplification without losing language subtleties, at least imo. Also half of the difficulty in learning French comes from the needlessly complicated spelling of words, it's a joke compared to other romance languages. There's also the shunning of any non standard accent (you hardly ever hear a news anchor speak with a southern accent or a suburb accent)...
Jesus, agreed. I did two stints teaching french to foreign kids. :blink: "What's the rule on the place of adjectives ?" Errrr... After the noun, although sometimes before, and so forth explaining the exceptions to the exceptions. I mean, with that kind of completely insane set of rules, the least we could do is being more lax with the rules, since there's no simple one to learn.

The time with the american student was weird. I apologized for my poor spoken english ,and she explained to me with amusemant that in the US, that sort of thing doesn't matter - everyone's got some sort of accent, and if you can make yourself understood, you're good to go. I can of like that. :smile: Just re-watching the Wire, currently. You gotta love the slang and word invention. We used to have that with Audiard.
I'm sorry if what I say comes across as confrontational, that is really not my intent. I'm just tired of the elitist approach to French grammar, spelling and speech that is so prevalent these days.
You weren't any bit confrontational. :tongue: Ya know I was totally messing with you on that one ? You said "like when your teacher...", so it truly amused me,of course. And for the record, I added the bit about the correcting just as a not-so-subtle hint : I just didn't want to spend four hours correcting those. :tongue: Teachers don't like to say that kind of stuff that out loud, so we [censored] about the degrading grammar instead, makes us feel good and martyry. :lmao:
And I do think that French dubbing has a really acceptable level of polish, even if it's not on par with Baudelaire or Hugo.
Yeah, these days it's good. I just enjoy more the original. But I maintain my stance on subbing. A lot of translations are ludicrous, and even badly spelled sometimes. Have fun and try Hugh Laurie's book, or read the first lines of dialogue in Okami. God. My point is, if we are going to be so "french culture and all", and not develop subbed media or easier access to foreign books, allright : then we should treat the linguo as it actually matters. Otherwise it's just stupid empty pride.
User avatar
Cagla Cali
 
Posts: 3431
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:36 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:17 pm

how expensive would it be to go to japan for a weekend?
Including tickets, unless you're on shopping rampage, $3500 - $4500 USD. However the ticket price might varied from your place.

To any non-American: how is the diversity of foreign foods in other countries? We have Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Korean, Greek (LAMB :drool:), Italian, and Mexican restaurants in my very rural area.
It's very diversed in Hong Kong and Taiwan, you just need to know where to go. Not much in mainland China but with the introduction of fast food chains, we're getting loads of american food.
User avatar
hannaH
 
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:50 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:33 pm

Including tickets, unless you're on shopping rampage, $3500 - $4500 USD. However the ticket price might varied from your place.


It's very diversed in Hong Kong and Taiwan, you just need to know where to go. Not much in mainland China but with the introduction of fast food chains, we're getting loads of american food.
How different is HK to the rest of China ?
User avatar
Kelvin
 
Posts: 3405
Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:22 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:57 am

And new question: To anyone outside of the US - what's your favorite meal from around your area/country? I'm looking to start making a dinner club that meets once a month to try recipes from around the world.

Here in Portugal we are renowned for our codfish dishes :smile: I advise you "Bacalhau à Brás" (Codfish a la Braz would be the translation I guess). It's one of my favourite foods, really great! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacalhau_%C3%A0_Br%C3%A1s

Really? Then my friend you should really try Angel's Bakery in Brooklyn, on Norman ave.. where they sell Muffin tops.

Not the bottom bit, just the muffin top.

Because in new York city, you can get anything.

http://www.policesecrets.com/?p=155

Orhttp://krispykreme.com/home? :drool:

Wow. Seriously, I had no idea that in America there was such a variety of ways one could get sugar pumped into one's blood. I hope nobody takes this as offensive, but you see as they usually say that there are more fat people in America? I kind of understand that better now. You guys probably have a dedicated shop for every type of sweet there is. It must be hard to resist for some folk.
User avatar
Steve Fallon
 
Posts: 3503
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:29 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:45 am

It's very diversed in Hong Kong and Taiwan, you just need to know where to go. Not much in mainland China but with the introduction of fast food chains, we're getting loads of american food.
Speaking of Hong Kong, if you were to name one place or activity that a visitor shouldn't miss what would it be? Off the beaten path is welcome. I'm going to be in Hong Kong, Bangkok, and Phuket next month and I'm looking for ideas of things to do in my free time. Thanks in advance!

How different is HK to the rest of China ?
"How is it the same" might be an easier question to answer. From what I know of Hong Kong it's very separated from the rest of China...having been a Brit colony for so long and all...
User avatar
Mélida Brunet
 
Posts: 3440
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:45 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:34 am

Irish donuts svck. :( I spent a summer in Canada and worked in a Tim Horton's for a couple of months while there, and their donuts were amazing. Irish donuts are doughy and bland.

Our bagels svck too. :(
So I could move to Ireland and open an american bakery and make a fortune? ;) Donuts are truly one of my all time favorite treats... I just can't eat them anymore.
User avatar
sharon
 
Posts: 3449
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:59 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:28 am

Wow. Seriously, I had no idea that in America there was such a variety of ways one could get sugar pumped into one's blood. I hope nobody takes this as offensive, but you see as they usually say that there are more fat people on America? I kind of understand that better now. You guys probably have a dedicated shop for every type of sweet there is. It must be hard to resist for some folk.

I didn't realize it was a mystery why Americans tend to be overweight. Honestly, if you think the sweets are the problem, you should read the labels on the crap they try to sell us as food. You won't find something without high fructose corn syrup, sugar, or some other sweetener in the first 3 ingredients. (Ok, that may be stretching it, but not by much.) We eat diets that almost completely rely on highly processed or "fake" foods... unless you make the effort to eat fresh foods and cook your own meals.
User avatar
Natalie Harvey
 
Posts: 3433
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:15 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:35 am

So I could move to Ireland and open an american bakery and make a fortune? :wink: Donuts are truly one of my all time favorite treats... I just can't eat them anymore.

Open a place that sells excellent donuts and bagels and you might be on to something. You'll definitely have one guaranteed customer. :)
User avatar
Dina Boudreau
 
Posts: 3410
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:59 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:13 am

Speaking of Hong Kong, if you were to name one place or activity that a visitor shouldn't miss what would it be? Off the beaten path is welcome. I'm going to be in Hong Kong, Bangkok, and Phuket next month and I'm looking for ideas of things to do in my free time. Thanks in advance!


"How is it the same" might be an easier question to answer. From what I know of Hong Kong it's very separated from the rest of China...having been a Brit colony for so long and all...
Is phuket pronounced how I think it is ?

I know it was, and thats why im interested, its part of China now, and im interested on seeing just how thats effected HK.
Also do the people of HK hate the British ?
User avatar
Shelby McDonald
 
Posts: 3497
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:29 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:13 pm

How different is HK to the rest of China ?

Really depends on which city you are visiting. Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Tianjin, Taipei, Gaohsing, Tainan are highly modernized cities. You may compare HK, BJ, SH, TP with New York, Chicago, San Francisco.

Depends on what are you looking for, there are rural as well as big cities just like everywhere else in the world.
User avatar
Sammie LM
 
Posts: 3424
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:59 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:19 pm

Including tickets, unless you're on shopping rampage, $3500 - $4500 USD. However the ticket price might varied from your place.


It's very diversed in Hong Kong and Taiwan, you just need to know where to go. Not much in mainland China but with the introduction of fast food chains, we're getting loads of american food.

I went to HK to visit my Uncle in November. Awesome place! Had an incredible time. Shen zen (spelling?) was a dive in mainland china though.
User avatar
OJY
 
Posts: 3462
Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 3:11 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:27 pm

Is phuket pronounced how I think it is ?
Unfortunately(?), it's pronounced "poo-KET." :tongue:
User avatar
Haley Merkley
 
Posts: 3356
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:53 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:01 pm

Unfortunately(?), it's pronounced "poo-KET." :tongue:
Damn. Well I can dream.
User avatar
Averielle Garcia
 
Posts: 3491
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:41 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:51 pm

To those in the UK: Is it true that you tend to have lots of old things in your homes? This may be a seriously ignorant assumption, but it always astounds me when I watch real estate or auction shows from the UK and how many antiques everyone seems to have. I'm seriously jealous... Here in America is seems things are made to be disposed of, not to be kept.

It's a very old place, naturally there's going to be very old things. Most of those "antiques" you see aren't too valuable though, probably cheap knockoffs that their grandparents bought and "passed down" through the generations so now it's not just an ugly lamp; it's an ugly lamp from World War 1. I suppose we're quite nostalgic.

Seriously though, go to any antique shop and they're full of cheap tat that you can pass off as genuine.
User avatar
GRAEME
 
Posts: 3363
Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 2:48 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:33 am

Created a new topic as we are nearing the post limit.

Whenever you are ready, guys. :wavey:
User avatar
Michael Russ
 
Posts: 3380
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:33 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:33 am

Commence the transition! Again, really nice thread Bitter Coast, kudos to you :)
User avatar
Angel Torres
 
Posts: 3553
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:08 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:50 pm

Speaking of Hong Kong, if you were to name one place or activity that a visitor shouldn't miss what would it be? Off the beaten path is welcome. I'm going to be in Hong Kong, Bangkok, and Phuket next month and I'm looking for ideas of things to do in my free time. Thanks in advance!
Getting laid with some of the really nice oriental chicks here :P

Seriously, Ocean Park is the popular choice and almost always worthwhile. Many foreigners praised our airport, so you might enjoy just messing around in there before leaving the gate (tourist price of course). MongKok, Central, Wanchai, Causeway Bay after 7pm friday to and before 10pm Sunday always have the maddening nightlife every week. For food Temple street (tourist price). In Mongkok we have this crazy amount of food to choose from, they used to be hawkers in the streets but the government reorganized them to stick them back into real shops.

If you want to go remote, there is this Mai Po Conservation http://www.wwf.org.hk/en/whatwedo/conservation/wetlands/managemaipo/ depends on season you may or may not see what you want to see.

If you can be more specific of what you want to see, I can be more specific pointing you out.

"How is it the same" might be an easier question to answer. From what I know of Hong Kong it's very separated from the rest of China...having been a Brit colony for so long and all...
There is this thing called one country two systems, we're running capitalism. China runs the "chinese style socialism" a.k.a hardcoe capitalism with an iron fist readied to smite you if you don't behave. So just imagine...

Is phuket pronounced how I think it is ?

I know it was, and thats why im interested, its part of China now, and im interested on seeing just how thats effected HK.
Also do the people of HK hate the British ?
No, we hate mainlander Chinese, because they are not Caucassians. It's stupid but reversed discrimination is everywhere in Hong Kong. British has always been the upper caste of our society and hasn't changed much after handover. Recent mainlander's misbehaviours agitated this kind of social conflicts even more so.
User avatar
Jani Eayon
 
Posts: 3435
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:19 pm

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:19 am

Commence the transition! Again, really nice thread Bitter Coast, kudos to you :smile:

Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. :)
User avatar
Glu Glu
 
Posts: 3352
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:39 am

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:40 pm

Closed by Request of OP.

Look for the new thread
User avatar
WYatt REed
 
Posts: 3409
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:06 pm

Previous

Return to Othor Games