The Traveler's Tavern (International Inquiries II) : Othor Games

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:11 pm

Americans: why do you have bad versions of good stuff, i.e. cheese, chocolate, wine? :cryvaultboy:

To be fair, not all of it is bad, especially the locally-produced stuff: it's not like some of our mass-produced stuff in the UK is anything to write home about either. But I stand by my comment that Hershey's is revolting.

» Sun May 13, 2012 5:25 am

I <3 you god fearing, big foot hunting, Soda swilling, Candy eating, SUV driving, gun toting guys. :biggrin:

I just don't like your chocolate....Ya hear!? :stare:

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:14 am

To be fair, not all of it is bad, especially the locally-produced stuff: it's not like some of our mass-produced stuff in the UK is anything to write home about either. But I stand by my comment that Hershey's is revolting.

What exactly did you try if I may ask? Hershey and Mars have a wide monopoly on most common candies here. I like their cookies and cream bars personally.

@Knight- You forgot the part about us eating fried fat on a stick. :wink:

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:17 pm

Godiva & Ghirardelli Chocolate is my favorite and I have no idea where they're made. Hersheys is the 'trick' in "trick or treat" in October....we give 'em to little kids. They don't know the difference and don't care.

BTW...I'd like to thank the UK for Altoids...not only do they make the best tasting Wintergreen in the world, they make handy dandy little metal boxes to store all kinds of little accouterments, thinga-ma-jiggies, and tacks, screws and fasteners of several descriptions...in.

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:51 pm

You're welcome.

What's a wintergreen?

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:04 am

To the Germans and the French: How do people feel about getting mostly dubbed versions of movies and tv shows (and games), rather than having subtitles with the original voice acting? Is it something that most people prefer?

Also do you think these translations and voice acting in movies/tv shows/games are usually done well? The lip movement and sentence length doesn't always match up, I guess.

Here in the Netherlands its all subtitles, with the exception of tv shows and movies for children. I think it has helped me learn English a lot.

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:19 pm

I like Hershey bars, American cheese, though I've never tried (or heard of) American wine. It's stuff I've grown up eating, so when I try your European equivalents I find them strange and, for the most part, gross. Works the other way around, guys.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:13 pm

I feel ya broseph. In England I have been ridiculed for being Middle Class. "Ah you're so posh, look at you in all your finery. All arrogant and graceful. Look at your full head of blonde locks and gleaming white teeth."

Ok, I went Ott. But I am what I am. Some people seem to think it's a crime to be middle class in England. Get off my back and get on the Jeremey Kyle show you cart riding gypsies.

I've had it both ways: council estate types calling us posh snobs and middle-class gits (even though they were the first to have the video recorders, satellite telly, all the newest games consoles etc) at the same time as being called northern scum by southern social-climbers. I guess we really were in the middle... of something, anyway. I think the low point was the latter northern scum comment coming from my parents' ex-neighbours, people who were the genuine article when it came to pretty full-on scumminess. That one stung a bit.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:33 am

What exactly did you try if I may ask? Hershey and Mars have a wide monopoly on most common candies here. I like their cookies and cream bars personally.

Just regular Hershey's. Mars stuff tastes okay to me, just regular mass-produced chocolate, but Hershey's is foul. I've heard it's something to do with the way they treat the milk: apparently people who've grown up with Hershey's can't really taste it, but to those who haven't there's a distinct "second hand" component to the taste that really catches the back of your throat.

I guess the same applies to lots of foods people aren't familiar with, but that one seemed the most incongruous.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:24 pm

Here in the Netherlands its all subtitles, with the exception of tv shows and movies for children. I think it has helped me learn English a lot.

Out of curiousity, how did you distinguish what from what? I mean, how did you learn to distinguish an English word to Dutch and so on?

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:29 am

To the Germans and the French: How do people feel about getting mostly dubbed versions of movies and tv shows (and games), rather than having subtitles with the original voice acting? Is it something that most people prefer?

Also do you think these translations and voice acting in movies/tv shows/games are usually done well? The lip movement and sentence length doesn't always match up, I guess.

Here in the Netherlands its all subtitles, with the exception of tv shows and movies for children. I think it has helped me learn English a lot.

Add Spain to the mix. I'm not from there, but from what is known here in Portugal, and from the few times I've been to Spain, almost everything is dubbed, be it movies, tv shows, etc etc. It is said that Spanish people don't have such an easy time learning other languages because of that (not living with other languages daily), although I really have no idea wether that is true or not. People of Spain, is it? :-/

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:06 am

I like Hershey bars, American cheese, though I've never tried (or heard of) American wine. It's stuff I've grown up eating, so when I try your European equivalents I find them strange and, for the most part, gross. Works the other way around, guys.

I concede that.

Strange that you haven't heard of Cali wine -- apparently they're really pushing to get the stuff recognised as good wine.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:21 am

You're welcome.

What's a wintergreen?

Should have been more specific. Wintergreen flavored little tabs, lozenge-like, circular white candies...I don't like Peppermint.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:43 pm

I lived in Spain for 4 years and yes, it's all dubbed. Spanish Homer Simpson is....Interesting. :ermm:

» Sun May 13, 2012 5:37 pm

Out of curiousity, how did you distinguish what from what? I mean, how did you learn to distinguish an English word to Dutch and so on?

I'm not sure what you mean. We're still brought up with Dutch and get taught in Dutch, we don't grow up speaking two languages. Most people start learning English at the end of primary school I think, with most of it happening in high school. Watching movies and other things in English with Dutch subtitles just helps to learn a bit faster.

» Sun May 13, 2012 1:42 pm

I'm not sure what you mean. We're still brought up with Dutch and get taught in Dutch, we don't grow up speaking two languages. Most people start learning English at the end of primary school I think, with most of it happening in high school. Watching movies and other things in English with Dutch subtitles just helps to learn a bit faster.

Speaking of the Dutch....Van Son's Royal Dutch Printing Inks....are the best in the world...I only hope that the coming of the "paperless" society doesn't diminish their workforce to nil.
They're located in Hilversum...but you may have known that.

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:14 am

"Ah you're so posh, look at you in all your finery. All arrogant and graceful. Look at your full head of blonde locks and gleaming white teeth."

I didnt realise the bar was set so low. So brushing and washing your hair = posh. Damn I would hate to be around those people, if hygene is posh.

» Sun May 13, 2012 12:11 pm

I didnt realise the bar was set so low. So brushing and washing your hair = posh. Damn I would hate to be around those people, if hygene is posh.

I've been reading too much Songs of Fire and Ice. I'm not really sure how modern society works anymore. Apparently I'm old at 19 and I should have been [censored] and wenching for at least 5 years.

I wish my father was noble lord.

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:35 pm

Americans: why do you have bad versions of good stuff, i.e. cheese, chocolate, wine? :cryvaultboy:

Mostly because it's affordable though some would rather save for the good stuff most will settle for the bad stuff so they can have it more often. Believe me, we love to have the good stuff when we can afford it. And plenty of us buy fine cheese and chocolate.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:52 am

I've been reading too much Songs of Fire and Ice. I'm not really sure how modern society works anymore. Apparently I'm old at 19 and I should have been [censored] and wenching for at least 5 years.

I wish my father was noble lord.

Speak for yourself, I just got married to a Frey

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:03 pm

I've been reading too much Songs of Fire and Ice. I'm not really sure how modern society works anymore. Apparently I'm old at 19 and I should have been [censored] and wenching for at least 5 years.

I wish my father was noble lord.

Wait your 19 ?!

Have you not sired atleast 4 children from different mistresses ?

Why would you hate it? Apart from you hating everything. I have no problem with it. Its just the name that Cook gave the place (originally it was just "New Wales"). Its no different to places in the US being named after places across the Atlantic.

Becuse its cheap as hell. "what shall we call this place ?" "err, well... Just take a current location, and put the word new infront of it".

Australia is nothing like Wales. It would be like going to Africa and naming a place New Hong kong. Yes there were Welsh people living in NSW, but damnit that dosent make it Welsh.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:06 pm

To Canadians: do you know why Frito Lay CA won't sell me All-Dressed Ruffles? They are the best chips on the planet but for some reason they won't sell it in the US. Is this elitism or some cruel joke that is toying with the inner machinations of my heart?

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:09 pm

Becuse its cheap as hell. "what shall we call this place ?" "err, well... Just take a current location, and put the word new infront of it".

They do that a lot in America. :sweat:

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:04 pm

They do that a lot in America. :sweat:

I live 15 minutes away from New London, which is located in New England.

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:09 am

I'm not sure what you mean. We're still brought up with Dutch and get taught in Dutch, we don't grow up speaking two languages. Most people start learning English at the end of primary school I think, with most of it happening in high school. Watching movies and other things in English with Dutch subtitles just helps to learn a bit faster.

Oh, I was under the impression you were entirely self taught through various entertainment media, like you learned all your English through figuring out what Dutch word was what in English and so on.